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Pharoh Brown is only good for a holding call weekly, he has cleaned up his penalties and is now allowing more sacks lol

I agree, Burris has been pretty solid.

My concern is with the depth; ie Redwine

He could very well be.

Only if one of the linebackers is a pass rusher.

Agree.

This will be a great game for Avery to bring some pass rush. Oh wait...nevermind.

We currently have three open roster spots. One from Morgan Burnett getting IRed, one from Myles Garrett's suspension, and one from Larry Ogunjobi's suspension (which might not hold up).

The Cleveland Browns have elevated S J.T. Hassell to the active roster from the practice squad and signed S A.J. Howard to the practice squad.

Hassell (5-11, 200) is a rookie out of Florida Tech and spent the first 11 weeks of the 2019 season as a member of the team’s practice squad. He was originally signed by the Browns as an undrafted free agent in May. A native of Titusville, Fla., Hassell played in all four of the Browns’ preseason games, registering 14 tackles and a team-leading three tackles on special teams.

Read about Hassell's journey to the NFL

Howard is 5-10, 198 pounds and officially a first-year player. An undrafted free agent signing by the Arizona Cardinals in 2018, he spent the majority of last season as a member of the New York Giants’ and New England Patriots’ practice squads. This season, he spent time on the practice squads of the Baltimore Ravens and Philadelphia Eagles after spending the offseason and training camp with the Patriots. He’s a native of Hamilton, Ga. and attended Appalachian State.

That's why he got hurt.

Anytime a Browns player has a breakout they are gone.

Okay.

Jc

I listened to FK’s press conference and he intimated that Hodge has found his niche on STs and as a backup WR ... I liked how he impacted the game Thursday

Looks like JT Hassell has been added to the roster:

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/brown...-active-roster/

Good for him! That's quite a story.

Garret shouldn't be suspended at all, just fined BIG TIME (Imtalking 3.5 mil or so) and be done with. The media and everyone else has blown this thing way out of proprtion. Everyone is talking about "had he done this it would be worse" or "He is lucky he only hit him this way" etc....they are wanting punishment doled based on what "could have happened" not "what actually happened"

Fact is this case needs to be looked based soley on FACTS

FACTS:

1. NO ONE was hurt because of Garret helmet swing
2. Rudolph took the last snap of the game no problem.
3. Rudolph was obviously examined by Steelers DR after the game and was A OK

This whole thing is absurd. If he had actually hurt Rudolph i'd be all about these crazy suspensions, but he didn't. He didn't hurt Rudolph. What Garret did is not worthy of a suspension.

Should a person spend time in jail because they ran a stop sign, and got into a fender bender with someone else and crushed each others cars yet no one was hurt? Should that person get the same sentence someone who hurt or killed someone should get?

this is nonsense! No one was hurt in the whole Garret affair, and No one should give a damn about would, could, shoulda, because would, could, shoulda, NEVER happened. You can't dole out punishments based on "what ifs" it needs to be based on FACTS

the most i'd accept is a 2 game suspension, the same thing Smith got, anymore and Garret needs to lawyer up and sue the NFL this is absolutely ridiclious, the media shouldn't be the ones deciding on punishments, our courts don't let the media influence and decide everything.

Just fines and move on allready this is nonsense. No one was hurt, had he hurt someone, sure, but the fact remians no one was hurt and for that reason, it should be fines and move on.

Fact is it is 2019.

You suggesting that Garrett shouldn't get suspended for even one game is devoid of reality. Period.

J/c

Good news about Hassel .. hope he does well for himself

Browns promote Brandin Bryant, Porter Gustin from the practice squad

https://brownswire.usatoday.com/2019/11/...practice-squad/

Desperate for healthy and available bodies along the defensive line for Week 12, the Cleveland Browns promoted two defenders from the practice squad on Friday. Tackle Brandin Bryant and EDGE Porter Gustin are now on the active 53-man roster.

They fill roster spots vacant due to the suspensions of Myles Garrett and Larry Ogunjobi. With EDGE Olivier Vernon also ruled out with his ongoing knee injury, the Browns are missing three of the four regular starters on the defensive line.

Bryant has been with the practice squad all season. He has previous experience with a handful of NFL teams as well as in the CFL. Gustin was signed to the practice squad following the trade of Genard Avery to the Philadelphia Eagles. He’s an undrafted rookie from USC who has primarily played outside linebacker in his career.

Avery's trade to PHI is looming large these days.

Yes, it would be nice if we still had him. We don’t though, and that’s the way she goes.

yeah, it’s pretty unfortunate that we dont have him right now

Sincere question... honestly, not trying to argue.

What was Avery's position? And I know the whole "you find the scheme to put your talent on the field" argument. Let's ignore that, for now.

Avery was a LB, right? He's not a DE (right?).

If only Myles had informed us that he was going to get suspended the same week Vernon would be injured

Life happens.
Avery was getting sidelined here. It took the losses of both Garrett and Vernon to get us to where we'd need him; his value at the time was greater in a trade and it was the right move.

j/c

It'll be interesting to see what they do with the PS over the next several days. Larry O comes back next week and probably Njoku as well.

I'm afraid the PS call-up of two DL means Vernon may be done for the year. It would be odd to bring up two DL one week and cut one of them the next week (when Larry returns). Not to mention that one or two of those guys may be inactive Sunday. Hence my comment about watching the PS. If they fill it up, it signals that Vernon is done for the year...or quite a while longer at least. If they leave PS spots open, they'll likely plan to cut one of those two guys and get them signed back to the PS once Vernon returns to action...or a guy like D'Earnest J is on a very big numbers bubble.

We have ten DLs counting Larry. We have five TEs counting Njoku. I could see Pharoah slide back to PS after Njoku returns. But cutting a recent PS call-up for just one week would be odd...as would carrying 10 DL on the 53.

Should be interesting.

I think it just means that we need two bodies for this week.
As soon as Larry comes back, one gets released and possibly signed back to the practice squad. When Vernon comes back, the same happens to the other one.

To my understanding, he was viewed as a DE and was behind the other DEs on the depth chart. I like C Smith well-enough and C Thomas has come on strong recently. However, I think Avery was/is much more dynamic than C Smith and with Vernon's recent-history injury woes, Avery was worth much more than a 4th Rd pick in the draft-after-next. JMO.

There is a reasonable argument that he was viewed as a LB and not a fit for our 4-2. My counter to that is the 'ole "you can't have too many edge rushers".

In the end, no one could foresee MG getting suspended even if one COULD foresee Vernon being sidelined. So it's not like to was a completely stupid move. However, the guy made a noticeable impact last year and is an edge rusher. We have lots of guys we could have cut to "make room" who are nowhere near the dynamic that Avery is/was. JMO again.

Could be...but while we need two bodies, I won't be surprised if at least one is inactive Sunday. We will have (8) healthy DLs Sunday morning...which is a lot but certainly isn't outrageous for the 46 gameday spots.

If they leave a hole in the PS roster, they'll be cutting one - or - both and getting them back to the PS. If they fill-up the PS, these guys are going to be here for awhile.

Isn't there a time limit for that type of transactions.

Diyyaaanng Whatever happened to Ogbah and Nassib?
Whatever happened to Nassib and Ogbay< (rherorical-I know what happened)

Whatever happened to Coley and Genard Avery, Danggg the cupboard looks bare.

We got Lucy'd
Lucy'd is when Browns fans have to put up with assets being taken away needlessly,

These kind of things don't happen to every team, things like Josh Gordon's suspension after the 2011-er whatever year,
Things like Kellon Winslow Jr missing his entire rookie year,
or Edwards? missing time for practicing without shoes
or Kellon Winslow Jr missing his entire 2nd season because of some onside kick injury
or some "other" player missing time for a motorcycle wreck,
or things like some player's involvement in a drunk driving incident on a bridge causing missed time,

or things like telling us some other Free.Safety was just as good as Tashaun Gipson, or a dozen other similar cases,

Lucy, (the little character from the peanuts gang), pulls the football out of position right as Charlie Brown trys to kick it.

Things like, current guy suspended indefinetly, what does that mean? We ain't gonna watch him play anymore,

These kind of things don't happen to every team, at least not as often.

Us Fans are Charlie Brown rearing up to kick that ball. I don't know Who Lucy is, but we got Lucy'd

There ain't no reason we don't have depth on this defensive line except they got rid of it.

You ever heard of these guys? Nobody has.

Woo Hoo go team! Active roster? Give me a break!

The Cleveland Browns announced the signing of wide receiver J'Mon Moore to the team's practice squad, Monday. A Green Bay Packers fourth round pick in 2018, Moore spent one season with the Packers, catching two passes for passes for 15 yards in 12 games. The Browns signed both Brandin Bryant and Porter Gustin to the active roster on Friday ahead of the game against the Miami Dolphins, so the practice squad had space to add Moore.

Moore was one of the lone bright spots on some mediocre Missouri teams, posting solid production for the three seasons. He also put up good athletic testing numbers, giving him a solid prospect profile overall.

The Packers added a ton of competition at wide receiver over the past couple of years through the draft and Moore was beaten out, but he is a good prospect o add to the practice squad in case he's able to get it going. He's got good size for the position at measuring in near 6'3" and over 200 pounds.

The Browns are currently hoping to find additional contributions from the wide receiver position beyond Odell Beckham and Jarvis Landry as their third leading receiver this season is Damion Ratley, who hasn't really played much in the past month.

https://www.si.com/nfl/browns/news/cleveland-browns-add-wr-jmon-moore-to-practice-squad/

I saw Higgins wide open a few times and don't think he ever got a target. I don't understand this at all. I personally would rather Baker throw it to him than one hand diva dropsies OBJ. I mean I like OBJ but he hasn't really impressed me that much on the field. I know Higgins will catch the ball.

The Higgins thing is a mystery.

He had one target in the left side of the end zone where Baker didn't lead him quite enough and it got deflected.

At least one of the times he was open resulted in the TD to OBJ.

It is what it is. We didn't run a whole lot of 3 WR sets. We had the lead pretty much the whole game and showed a good bit of "running formations." The threat of OBJ over the top opens up the running game more than Higgins, and Landry had the hot hand(s).

Don't get me wrong, during the game I was wondering why I wasn't seeing more of Higgins. It does kind of make sense looking back now and thinking it through, though.

J’Mon Moore was a Packer fan favorite for a while .. though I’m not sure where he fits here other than a LONG shot

How did he become a fan favorite if he only caught 2 passes the entire season? Did he have a good preseason or something?

That's my guess. How many WRs were fan favorites here, based on preseason?

yep, he was a preseason star and training camp favorite ... I have some family who love the Packers and they had a group of WRs who didn’t pan out that fans loved (Moore and Janis in particular)

Darius Jennings, Rannell Hall, Josh Lenz...

Frisman Jackson