DawgTalkers.net Forums The Archives 2019 NFL Season Looking Back: Browns 13 Steelers 20 No Mason Rudolph This Sunday

There was no way they could throw him out there. To quote the movie Jaws, that'd be like ringing the dinner bell.

I don't think it had much to do about playing us though, the kid just stinks.

Combine his poor skills with a team that has extra motivation? That could get real ugly.

I really like our chances this week. I hope they continue to keep this offense rolling.

Hodges is better than Mason. Don't get too excited. I think we win again, but I don't think its a blowout like two weeks ago.

This kid will actually throw the ball downfield, so we cant just stack the box against them now. Mason's game makes it rather easy to defend, because he refused to throw the ball downfield.

This kid, Devlin will at least keep the defense honest. I don't think hes some start QB by any means, but hes an upgrade over Mason, and could give the offense a spark.

He has played in two games this year, and brought the team two victories in those games.

We cannot get complacent.

We got this

Yup, and the Browns have looked really good early on the last few weeks during this 3 game run. They have to keep that going. Lean on Chubb. Get Hunt involved. Keep Landry going. I think Beckham is on the verge of breaking loose and going nuts. Eventually teams are going to have to switch their attention to Landry who has been catching everything and moving the chains, and that's when Beckham should go nuts

I didn't see the Browns Steelers game 2 weeks ago.

All I got is the final score, and the Browns only 4th win over that nasty franchise since 1999 being overshadowed by the fight, the losing of Myles Garrett, (needlessly I might ad) and since in my opinion
the Steelers are so sorry at losing they had to start fights, when the game was not in doubt, as a pattern they've followed as an organization going back to the 1970's (spit on the ground)

So! if I had to chose,

Why shouldn't I take the Steelers and the points?

It looks like James Conner is going to be out too. If Juju is out we should beat them easily.

I didn’t want Duck ... he throws it down field way more frequently

not sure why people are worried about a QB that hasn't thrown for over 200 yards yet.. completed 45.5% against the bengals...i like our chances

Maybe because the guys hes replacing has been hot garbage, and frankly no one knows anything about Duck, including our defense.

What happened the last time we played a QB there was no tape on? When there's no tape on guys, its hard to learn tendencies and make a game plan. We see that a lot with 1 year wonders at QB.

He also throws the ball downfield more than Mason, which will make us rely more on our DL to get pressure, where we are very thin at depth wise.

I'm not worried about either QB. I just wanted Mason out there far more than this guy.

With their overall roster, them starting Mason or Duck is completely irrelevant. We lose this is we don't come to play.

actually he doesn't throw the ball downfield..his bread and butter are short/intermed. He's very small, tiny hands and not very athletic and gets alot of balls batted down. His draft profile reads like a poor mans Baker. Theres 3 games of tape on him from this season. If they want to throw to their recievers thats where we are supposedly strong at, if they don't have JuJu then I don't see much of anything happening especially with connor out. Getting Larry back will be big, and if sheldon can keep playing like last game and if by miracle we get vernon back, then I expect a repeat of last game, sans myles trying to put rudolphs helmet back on for him

On the year hes 27-40 for 67% 318 yards 2 TD and 1 INT.

Hes thrown 40 balls in the NFL, they don't have tape on him. Don't try and say its "been three games of tape", it has not.

Playing time wise, a game.

Even so, that's not a lot for a defense to go one, when both times he came in they were behind and he had 0 time with the offense in the week up to it either.

How did we do against the kid in Denver?

anyone that has actually watched the games, can see he is more willing to throw the ball down field than mason. Your wrong.

he's averaging a whopping 1 more yard per attempt than rudolph..yeah I'm wrong i guess technically and yes, 3 games is 3 games..more than anyone had on allen. Allen was a fail and it was mostly on Wilkes.

SMH. Well, I actually watch their games, and have seen him play. I can tell you have not and are going off strictly numbers.

1. You mean the guy the fail is on is the same guy that is leading our def plan this week ??? Hmmmm…. lol. Your using the fact that the "fail" was our D Cord who STILL is the D Cord for this game. lol

2. Once again, I watch the games. What you don't realize, is the VAST majority of big plays Mason has had, were 5-7 yard slants that players took to the house, or screens that went for 30-40 yards. Even his big plays, he wasn't throwing the ball downfield.

Devlin WILL and DOES throw the ball down field. STATS can and are deceiving, unless of course - you watch the game.

I mean, I’m not worried about either guy ... I’m more worried about Watt, Dupree, Bush, Fitzpatrick etc

Ill put it this way...

If I throw the ball 50 yards in the air to OBJ and he gets tackled 10 YAC, that 60 yard play DOWNFIELD

If I throw the ball to Jarvis 7 yards, and he takes it 54 YAC, that's a 61 yard play...NOT DOWNFIELD

Yet your stats would show Jarvis had "1 more yard per play" on my pass.

Rudolph's most successful play against us was throwing it up in the air down the field and hoping for the PI call.

Exactly.. and if we can avoid mistakes like we did in Game 1, I like our chances.

Amen to that. Not worried about either QB, worried about keeping my own clean and focused.

I don't think anyone is "worried" about the duck kid. however it bodes better for Pittsburgh as he is clearly better so far than Mason, and it will make it MORE troublesome on the defense. I still think we walk away with a convincing win.

I gotcha. I agree strictly from the standpoint that 9 of 10 Steelers fans have been screaming for Duck, I haven't watched him. It's also easier to face a "known quantity" in Rudolph, especially since we know he sucked lol.

Rudolph played his best football in his first few games before anybody knew who he was.. since then he has gone downhill fast.

Devlin has a few games of tape out there and has put up pretty good stats but it will be interesting to see if he can stay at that level with more tape on him.

The biggest difference being that he hasn't thrown the INTs that cost them games..

I would be surprised if either is the long term solution heir apparent to Big Ben.

I can see both good and bad in this decision. If it's Mason, we know what we are getting and let's be honest, he has a target on his back.... I see that as advantage Browns.

Hodges is an unknown. We have virtually nothing on him.

I think that could be advantage Pittsburgh.

Oganjobi is back this week,, He's got to have a chip on his shoulders.

We'll see, but Hodges worries me the way the Unknown worries me.

I'd rather play against the garbage I know than the garbage that's a mystery.


Solution: knock Devlin out of the game and we get Rudolph back in there.

Hodges start was against the 2-3 Chargers this year. Well over half his passing yards were via James Conner. Conner caught 7 passes, only one other player had as many as two.

Would've enjoyed seeing them pound Rudolph, but either the Browns should beat the Steelers comfortably now that the offense is starting to click.

Protect the ball and score at least 20 points and that should be good enough for a win.

That is what I was thinking . I never want to see an injury, but just this once enough to knock him out of the game early would be nice.

Hodges is better than Mason. Don't get too excited. I think we win again, but I don't think its a blowout like two weeks ago.[/quote]

Myself, I don't feel our win against them was a 'blow out", at 21-7, especially considering we had 4 int's.

It wasn't a blowout on the scoreboard, but it was most def was a blowout in every other sense.[/quote] We missed two FG, that would have been 27-7, and they were GIFTED a TD on like 3 or 4 straight penalties, that's 7 points for them they should not have had.

The score easily could have been 27-0, which would consider a blowout.

We also blew them off the field in yardage if memory serves me right. By no means was Pittsburgh in that game.

At the risk of getting away from the whole "was it a blowout" argument, the biggest thing that stood out to me was the turnovers. If you would've told me that one team would get 4 and the other would get 0, my heart would've sunk because there was no way that the Browns D was going to get all those takeaways and the Pitt D wasn't.

The fact we beat them in an area where they're a league leader was the most shocking.

Chicken.....

Hodges game.