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Wonder what happened....

Better be a very good reason.

Nothing is ever normal with this team.

Randall has had a weird season

Too much drama.

Nothing.

It's exhausting.

It's also poor leadership from the top of the organization on down.

Yearly drama cycle continues. Nauseating.

Lol so who are our safeties? Yeah I dont see us winning this one

https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2019/11...g-the-week.html

A league source told cleveland.com that coach Freddie Kitchens made the move for something that happened during the week.

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Browns safety Damarious Randall benched for Steelers game and left home for something that happened during the week

Updated 4:31 PM;Today 2:45 PM
Cleveland Browns vs. Pittsburgh Steelers, November 14, 2019
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Cleveland Browns safety Damarious Randall reacts after being ejected from the game against the Pittsburgh Steelers in the second half. (Joshua Gunter, cleveland.com)

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By Mary Kay Cabot, cleveland.com
CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Browns safety Damarious Randall was benched for Sunday’s Steelers game and kept home from the trip to Pittsburgh because of a coach’s decision, the club announced Saturday afternoon.

A league source told cleveland.com that coach Freddie Kitchens made the move for something that happened during the week.

Randall, who’s started five games this season, did not participate in the early position drills that were open to the media on Friday, but he didn’t appear on the injury report.


Kitchens wears a ‘Pittsburgh Started It’ T-shirt out on Friday night

Rookie Sheldrick Redwine is a candidate to start, but the Browns can also use T.J. Carrie or Terrance Mitchell at safety. The Browns are already thin at the position. Safety Eric Murray had already been ruled out with his knee injury and starting strong safety Morgan Burnett is on injured reserve with a torn Achilles suffered in the Nov. 14 victory over the Steelers.

Safety Jermaine Whitehead was waived the day after the Broncos game on Nov. 3 for making threatening and offensive remarks on social media following the game.

Randall, meanwhile, was ejected from the 21-7 victory over the Steelers for a helmet-to-helmet hit that knocked receiver Diontae Johnson out of the game with a concussion. Randall was also fined $28,075, but is appealing.

He lamented the fact that he received death threats immediately after the ejection.


“I get so many death threats, so many people calling me names, people saying, ‘Oh, I hope you get hurt, I’m going to kill you, this and that,’’’ he told cleveland.com. “And it’s OK for fans to do it to us but then when we say something back, it’s a problem, we get in trouble. I just never understood that."

Randall says hit on Johnson wasn’t intentional

Randall was especially miffed because he’s never been flagged for a personal foul or been ejected. Was some of the vitriol from Steelers fans upset about Myles Garrett hitting Mason Rudolph in the head with Rudolph’s helmet at the end of the game?

“It shouldn’t matter,’’ Randall said. “At the end of the day, the NFL is a brotherhood; nobody goes out there to hurt anybody. We’re all in it, this is an entertainment-based business. ... The last thing I need to be doing is watching my back for fans and stuff talking crazy. I know most of them aren’t even about that life, because I done really been in that life. ... I know most of them ain’t even close to that life.


“It’s just funny to me how they blurt out and just say crazy, off the wall stuff, but just like the situation with (Whitehead). He lost his job behind something like that, but it’s OK for them to openly say stuff like that. I find that so crazy to me.’’

Randall was rattled by the sight of the injured Johnson, and apologized on Instagram after the game.

“I was shocked because I didn't know I hit him helmet-to-helmet up on the field and then I get back to the locker room and after the game I see it on social media and stuff,’’ he said. “I clearly hit him helmet-to-helmet, but I was just saying some prayers about it and that actually bothered me a little bit that he was laying there like that, because it just shows how dangerous this game is and how dangerous this game can be. Really, I just never intend to hurt anyone.’’

In other Browns news, the club has decided not to activate tight end David Njoku (wrist) for the Steelers game despite the fact that he said Friday he’s great and ready to go. Kitchens said the Browns are still working through some things with Njoku, and also complimented the play of the other tight ends.


Tight end Pharoah Brown, who missed Friday’s practice because of a personal reason, made the trip to Pittsburgh and will be available for the game.

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He probably told Freddie to run the ball. Dumbass move if you ask me.

Its says for something that happened during the week. It didnt say Randall did anything.

Maybe for precautionary reasons Kitchens chose to leave him back due to the death threats he received after his ejection on TNF?

Maybe he didn't like Freddie's shirt.

hmmm I wonder if the NFL suggested it as a player safety precaution? He was getting death threats

i can't imagine skipping practice would be worthy of being basically suspended for a game without pay... basically

Randall has been playing really well.

otherwise, Freddie is playing to lose the game.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2819...led-vs-steelers

Browns LT Greg Robinson, S Damarious Randall ruled out vs. Steelers

Randall did not make the trip on coach Freddie Kitchens' decision after skipping a practice earlier in the week, according to a source. The Browns are already without their other top two safeties, Eric Murray (knee) and Morgan Burnett (Achilles), who was recently placed on injured reserve. That leaves Juston Burris and rookie Sheldrick Redwine as the likely safety starters Sunday.

Maybe it's disciplinary and Freddie making players accountable.... oh, wait, people expect that discipline gets instilled by waving a magic wand, lol


Players act up and the coach is the goat. Coach holds player accountable and the coach is the goat.... can't win.

If he skipped practice and was not injured...then stay home for the game. I am with Freddie on this one. He is a head case and will not be re-signed. How many games has he even played this year?

I have no issue with discipline. I have issue with taking your best safety off the field when you are this banged up for discipline. I'm sure there was something else that could have been done.

So strange .. ugh

The shirt is not an issue for me. This safety is manufactured drama. Safety, OK. Discipline, not as much. We need to get this snuffed before it is a circus. Playable inactive is odd.

If Randall skipped a practice after already being given an extra day off following the win against Miami, I can see how Kitchens might be upset and feel the need to exert his authority. Plus, he came here from GB with a reputation for being a headcase, so maybe the Browns' feel that this type of behavior needs to be nipped in the bud before it becomes a disruption in the locker room. I'd be surprised if he's here next year.

This is not good, missing your best safety is never good...especially with suspect depth there...

I do find it odd that he (Randall) didnt even travel with the team...I guess the drama keeps unfolding

Dose his PLAY on the field help or hurt the Team ???

... u certainly have a firm grasp on the concept of discipline ... its not conveniant for us right now so we’ll find another way to punish you thats equal to you missing a game .... cause there is such a thing .. ...

By your theory the RB’s and CB’s would get punished way harsher than any other position group cause we have depth at those positions .... ya, that encompasses the true meaning of discipline ... *L* ...

And just think, this is how down they are on Freddie AFTER WE'VE WON THREE STRAIGHT GAMES!



He wore a T-shirt! He chose for Randall not to play! On the humanity!

Like what? What would you do, within the confines of what the CBA allows, that hasn't been tried, yet?

Would telling him to stop being a dumbass...sthu and go roast a duck in Heinz field be okay with the CBA ?

Everybody whined and cried about Freddie not using discipline and how he needed to be tougher on the players.

Now we have people whining and crying when he's tough on the players.

I call it BBS. Baby Bear syndrome. You know... Pappa Bears porridge was too hot. Momma Bears porridge was too cold. But Baby Bears porridge was JUST RIGHT!

Everybody wants Baby Bears porridge.

And this is coming on the heels of a three game winning streak.

"Oh the humanity!

Make him do laundry and scrub cleats for all I care. Taking him out of the game hurts the fans more than him. He's rich already, not going to miss the check.

Maybe I am just suffering from 40+ years of disappointment and bad management, but I have a feeling that this is a result of the last Pittsburgh game. No proof but I have not heard Randall was a discipline issue in the past. Maybe I am mistaken but it is just a gut feeling. I hope the Browns are not costing themselves a win and any hope at the playoffs.

I doubt Freddie's judgement. I think he's a bit of a fool. So I would have to know what was behind the decision 100% to be ok with it from my POV. To you and Diam with your snark about doubting Freddie after 3 wins, I think we won in spite of Freddie not because of Freddie.

Additionally, Freddie's winning on the weak half of the schedule does not impress me at all. If we sneak into the playoffs after the first half of the season debacle, it will not be a great victory. This talent should have easily dominated this division.

What? You don't know that it is the administrator of law that is at fault today, and not the transgressor *L*

Face it friend ... we live in a Burger King "have it your own way" society.

Just a thought as I read through this thread. People tend to forget the fact that there is a major difference between thinking your opinion matters and having your opinion actually matter. Everyone may be entitled to their opinion, but very few opinions have impact. Since there isn't an opinion on the board that actually matters, it's all just supercilious hyperbole. So, FWIW:

GO BROWNS!

I see. If we lose it's Freddie's fault. If we win it's despite Freddie.

You've thought he was stupid ever since you heard his accent. You aren't fooling anyone.