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O line was trash.
play calling was pretty good in the 1st half, dunno what happened in the 2nd.
our defense.....the moment we have some adversity, they fold. which i guess can apply to the entire team.
lets be clear here: we got beat by another charlie batch. the guy is an undrafted 3rd string rookie. we can name all the injuries to our team we want, they had no big ben, no juju, no conner, no starting center. just as banged up.
we even had the REFs give us call after call today, and still sucked.
haden, our former 1st round pick, getting a game sealing int for pittsburgh pretty much says it all about our team this season.
our playoff hopes are pretty much done. DT refs, i humbling ask that you guys go ahead and throw up the draft section.
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Fitting way to end the season ... loss in Pittsburgh to 3rd string guys and an embarrassing effort
But keep talking trash guys
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i was willing to give baker huge props showing some grit with the hand injury.
but it clearly wasnt broken, and he came out the 2nd half throwing lasers. so thats not an excuse either.
i mean....he's definitely better than darnold, rudolph, and rosen at least.
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Signature... That is all.
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Sad losing to a 3rd string QB Pittsburgh D is good but our OL lost this game and Freddy WHY was Randall not playing?
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Pissed away 10-0 lead. Yikes. Season is officially done and the Steelers are sitting in position to get a wildcard. Ugly. I won’t be upset if Freddie is done.
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Both sides of the ball sucked today. Ol trash. CB play sucked
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I'll echo my sentiments from the Gameday thread ...
I'm certainly glad that Myles threw his helmet at Rudolph and showed them that we won't be bullied around! I mean that certainly didn't come back to bite us, and now they know who's boss.
Pittsburgh has a ton of injuries and a ton of calls go against them yet they still prevailed. It's because they're coached well.
I feel like we'd be way better just by having the AI from Madden calling plays for us.
Our O-line was garbage, but Baker wasn't exactly doing anything either. That last drive, every single one of his passes were behind his receivers.
Our defense has terrible fundamentals as well. Constantly trying to shoulder tackle guys or going for the strip rather than the tackle of first hit. Our DBs play with their back to the ball all the time and end up getting a ton of PI calls because of it.
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Well as a fan I did as much as I could today. So the loss is on the organization. Freddie is now on the hotseat for sure because he just lost the most important game of our season to a third string QB on a trash team.
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Pissed away 10-0 lead. Yikes. Season is officially done and the Steelers are sitting in position to get a wildcard. Ugly. I won’t be upset if Freddie is done. Pittsburgh is NOT a Playoff team Period!!
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Fredrick crapped this game away when he didn’t try to put together a drive after the INT. More evidence to make Kitchens a one and done coach.
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Why did we bother to sign OBJ if we are never going to throw the damn ball to him? Man, Mayfield’s play does not match his swagger. This team is a historic bunch of underachievers. Blech.
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Baker Mayfield is Dak Prescott.
He's a loser.
#1 overall pick...doesn't play like it.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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So much for 'Paradise Isle" and the Mai Tais in the sun and the Great King John .. Oh .. btw .. does anyone remember that there has never been a King John in England since the original ?? King John was so bad that no Monarch afterwards would use the name.
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i agree with this. baker barely looked OBJ's way.
we turned him into an expensive decoy. let these guys make hard catches, give them a chance.
where was the mayfield that was willing to throw it into crazy ass windows last season? where was the mayfield that was reading the entire field last season?
man guys, im dead ass serious when i say that final drive, i had faith that baker would lead us atleast into the redzone with a chance to tie it up.
but damn, as Excl pointed out, every pass was behind the guys? no accuracy, with a INT to finish it off?
come on man.....
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This is how I feel about Freddie
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Baker Mayfield is Dak Prescott.
He's a loser.
#1 overall pick...doesn't play like it. Dak still has more wins
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They made plays at crucial times and we did not. It is the difference brethren a solid and established team, and one still finding its way.
Case in point: after the int, bake hits Landry with a deep ball inside the 5 but it gets knocked away. There were others, but that was huge.
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Uninspiring.
Pretty much saw the end coming on first Steeler drive of second half. 10-10 tie on the road season on the line. D comes out completely flat. They throw a little screen pass, and we are jogging to the ball. 15 yard gain. Uninspiring. Couple of plays later camera catches Ward yucking it up after the play with Steelers WR. Uninspiring. Later, when something wrong with replay review, camera catches Freddie yucking it up with refs. Uninspiring. Did not see a sense of urgency today. They can yuck it up all they want now, cuz season is done.
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Actually i think obj ran wrong route on last play went in not out..
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I say if we go 8-8, we keep Freddie.
8-8 is the stepping stone to greatness.
Playoffs next year!
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Baker Mayfield is Dak Prescott.
He's a loser.
#1 overall pick...doesn't play like it. That's what you got out of this game? Oh well each to their own. I'll place most of the blame for this game on Freddie Kitchens. Putrid play calling, no plan, barely any (and poor) utilization of Hunt or OBJ who are game changers. Pass happy Freddie be gone as far as I am concerned. Virtually no adjustment since the start of the season.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
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And now, someone stretches the screen. Boo.
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I say if we go 8-8, we keep Freddie.
8-8 is the stepping stone to greatness.
Playoffs next year! man, i dunno if we can even sweep the bengals after what i just saw today.
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I'm just happy that Baker's injury wasn't serious. It would suck to go to Cle to watch a backup play.
I'm not fussed by this loss.
If Freddie keeps sucking, he will be replaced. (Which I kind of want)
The last two years we focused on acquiring skill players
Now we gotta build up the line. Then we will be good to go.
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We averaged 4.4 Yards per Carry yet when we return an INT to their 30 we pass 3 times and punt ... Thats on Freddy !!!
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its not my post, its the guy who posted the crazy long link that doesnt even work
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Hey, edit this post. It's screwing up the page.
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and Freddy WHY was Randall not playing? Because he skipped practice to have Thanksgiving dinner with his family. That's not what lost us this game. Fact is, we're not ready. The OBJ trade turned out to be detrimental, not helpful. Trading Avery turns out to be a mistake. There are several issues we can point fingers to, but benching Randall is not one of them. We need O-line, an experienced offensive Coord, we need blitzing on third & long. We need a third Linebacker in at all times. We need team chemistry. And so on and so forth. We're just not there yet.
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It's boofers failed image post that's screwing up the thread ... and now your quoting of it.
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j/c:
But we all still had fun today, didn't we?
Seriously though, at the very least we did win one this season against them, but this game sucked.
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Pittsburgh blitzes, that's what they do. That's what they're known for. Kitchens runs plays where all the receivers are running 15-20 yards downfield. I don't get that.
Our oline can't pass protect. We can run block a bit, but we abandon the run.
Wilks can't gameplan properly week to week. Some weeks, he looks great then this week, he can't prepare against a never drafted guy in Duck Dodges....
Baker's injury to his hand probably factored in on his errant throws at the end.
Bad time to lay in egg against this team, this week after what happened two weeks ago.
We are hurting in our secondary, and on our dline and it does show, however, these guys are pro's and aside from Shoebert, these guys can't tackle.
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sorry about that, not sure why the image didn't render
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