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Try to pay attention this time.

My Thread is titled, "The Hamma begins to fall...

First the IG report, followed by the Durham report will expose the Deep State's actions.

Barr knows what is happening in both investigations, The IG does not.


Be patient as it all hits the fan.

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Originally Posted By: Swish
Prove they’re liberal then.

Or do you just chalk anything up as liberal bias.


Anything and anyone who questions Trump is un-american and clearly socialist. Regardless of facts and political persuasion.


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Doesn’t the hill lean conservative?


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Here's a list supplied by journalist Sharyl Attkisson:


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And 40 thinks this is bad for Liberals? How?


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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Try to pay attention this time.

My Thread is titled, "The Hamma begins to fall...

First the IG report, followed by the Durham report will expose the Deep State's actions.

Barr knows what is happening in both investigations, The IG does not.


Be patient as it all hits the fan.


I'll get my popcorn ready....


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Here's a list supplied by journalist Sharyl Attkisson:



It's not horrendous but it's not accurate from my perspective.

Fox and MSNBC are the same but opposite of each other. Although having said that Hannity and a couple others are straight propaganda ... MSNBC has Maddow who certainly consistently and constantly bashes Trump, but to my mind regardless of your leaning there's more facts to what MSNBC color commentators talk about than Hannity and co.

Another comparison is Fox and the BBC. . . the BBC has long been renowned for being neutral. On this chart it has BBC as a more left wing news agency than Fox is right wing. That's laughable.


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So you do watch FOX! rofl

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So you do watch FOX! rofl
Yeah ..it was funny when they showed all those other world leaders mocking trump.


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So you do watch FOX! rofl
Yeah ..it was funny when they showed all those other world leaders mocking trump.


LOL That was funny,, funnier yet was Macron Playing Trump like a fiddle..

We are the laughing stock of the world... All thanks to Trump.


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Dueling bias charts.

Here's what's known about Sharyl's chart:

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In 2017, Attkisson created a media bias chart. According to PolitiFact, this chart "labels anything not overtly conservative as 'left'". The news outlets with a purported left bias include the Associated Press, Reuters, the American television networks ABC, NBC/CNBC, and CBS, The New York Times, The Washington Post, CNN, NPR, Politico, and USA Today.[43] BuzzFeed News reported in August 2018 that Attkisson indicated on her website that she compiled the "subjective" chart "from various sources and your feedback".[44] She linked "various sources" to a study from the Pew Research Center, a Washington think tank that BuzzFeed said "measures audience bias, not the alleged bias of an outlet and a college library's website that cites another college library's project describing media outlets." Attkisson's chart includes such websites as InfoWars (to which Attkisson is said to link from her own site).[44]

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It is good to see the European leaders being so confident of no longer needing America to back them up, that they laugh behind the back of our President.

It is good to see them laugh at us by refusing to take responsibility for their nationals who fought for ISIS.

It is good to see them confidently bite the hand that feeds them.

Wait a minute... Is that the apology train I hear coming down the track? rofl

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Or they just laughed at the fool in the Oval. The whole world is doing it, no apologies needed.

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or perhaps...

“He’s two-faced,” Trump said. “I find him to be a very nice guy but the truth is I called him out on the fact that he’s not paying 2% (of GDP on Canada’s defense budget) and I guess he’s not very happy about it.”

“He’s not paying 2% and he should be paying 2%. It’s Canada, they have money and they should be paying 2%. So I called him out on that and I’m sure he wasn’t happy about it but that’s the way it is.”

Apparently your fool is fighting for America once again.

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Or they just laughed at the fool in the Oval.


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The most direct path is usually the Truth.


Like Freud once famously said: "Sometimes, a cigar is just a cigar..."


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or perhaps...

“He’s two-faced,” Trump said. “I find him to be a very nice guy but the truth is I called him out on the fact that he’s not paying 2% (of GDP on Canada’s defense budget) and I guess he’s not very happy about it.”

“He’s not paying 2% and he should be paying 2%. It’s Canada, they have money and they should be paying 2%. So I called him out on that and I’m sure he wasn’t happy about it but that’s the way it is.”

Apparently your fool is fighting for America once again.


He's bringing unnecessary turmoil to our oldest strategic alliances... that's not America's fight he's fighting, it's Putin's.

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And not only that the NATO nation's were already upping their contribution. Facts matter but the weak minded simy parrot Trump.


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or perhaps...

“He’s two-faced,” Trump said. “I find him to be a very nice guy but the truth is I called him out on the fact that he’s not paying 2% (of GDP on Canada’s defense budget) and I guess he’s not very happy about it.”

“He’s not paying 2% and he should be paying 2%. It’s Canada, they have money and they should be paying 2%. So I called him out on that and I’m sure he wasn’t happy about it but that’s the way it is.”

Apparently your fool is fighting for America once again.


He's bringing unnecessary turmoil to our oldest strategic alliances... that's not America's fight he's fighting, it's Putin's.


I am still scratching my head over why Obama let these allies stiff us on their share of their own defense for 8 years.

Trump will get them to pay up. He is not afraid to confront them. thumbsup

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Again, we're not talking about whataboutisms and other politicians, we're talking about Trump.

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Again, we're not talking about whataboutisms and other politicians, we're talking about Trump.


Whatabout Europe's treatment of American businesses???

Treasury Secretary Mnuchin warns of new global taxes, opposes digital services duty

-Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said the U.S. objects to digital services taxes because they “have a discriminatory impact on U.S.-based businesses.”

-Mnuchin’s letter comes a day after President Trump exchanged barbs with French President Emmanuel Macron for the country’s new digital-services tax.

-The French tax imposes a 3% tax on revenues tech companies generate in France, including targeted advertising and digital marketplaces.

-“I’m not going to let people take advantage of American companies. Because if anyone’s going to take advantage of the American companies it’s going to be us,” Trump said Tuesday.

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Just stop. You are being pathetic and sad. Your boy is a tool and everyone accepts that but the die hard "my 2016 vote counts" Trump crowd.

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Does anyone else find it odd that Trump has been proven to be a habitual liar if not a pathological liar, yet a certain segment of people keep repeating what he says as if he has enough credibility for anyone to believe a single word he says?

And Mexico isn't paying for it this time either.

They need to remember that repeating a lie doesn't make it true.


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Report: Barr attorney can't provide evidence Trump was set up by DOJ

The attorney handpicked by Attorney General William Barr to investigate the origins of the probe into the Trump campaign and Russia's election interference has reportedly found no evidence to support claims from conservatives that the case was a setup by U.S. intelligence officials.

Sources told The Washington Post that John Durham, the U.S. attorney chosen by Barr to lead the investigation, told the Justice Department's inspector general (IG), who conducted his own probe, that he has found no evidence to support claims that a Maltese professor who spoke with former Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos was secretly a U.S. intelligence asset.

Allies of the president have claimed for months that the professor, Joseph Mifsud, who spoke with Papadopoulos about the possibility of obtaining Hillary Clinton's stolen emails, was actually an asset of U.S. intelligence agencies seeking to set up the Trump campaign on criminal charges.

Sources close to the investigation added to the Post that the draft report written by IG David Horowitz is likely to detail instances of misconduct by FBI agents involved with the investigation but to conclude that top FBI officials did not act with political bias during the 2016 election.

“His excellent work has uncovered significant information that the American people will soon be able to read for themselves,” a spokeswoman for the Justice Department told the Post of the report's upcoming release. “Rather than speculating, people should read the report for themselves next week, watch the Inspector General’s testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee, and draw their own conclusions about these important matters.”

Republicans have argued since the inception of the now-shuttered special counsel investigation into the Trump campaign that the probe was launched improperly based on unfounded accusations detailed in a dossier crafted by an ex-British intelligence agent, Christopher Steele, and used by the Obama administration to hurt President Trump's chances of being elected.

Top former officials at the FBI have roundly dismissed that claim, arguing that the investigation was conducted without political bias.

https://thehill.com/policy/national-secu...s-set-up-by-doj

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Report: Barr attorney can't provide evidence Trump was set up by DOJ

The attorney handpicked by Attorney General William Barr to investigate the origins of the probe into the Trump campaign and Russia's election interference has reportedly found no evidence to support claims from conservatives that the case was a setup by U.S. intelligence officials.

Sources told The Washington Post that John Durham, the U.S. attorney chosen by Barr to lead the investigation, told the Justice Department's inspector general (IG), who conducted his own probe, that he has found no evidence to support claims that a Maltese professor who spoke with former Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos was secretly a U.S. intelligence asset.

Allies of the president have claimed for months that the professor, Joseph Mifsud, who spoke with Papadopoulos about the possibility of obtaining Hillary Clinton's stolen emails, was actually an asset of U.S. intelligence agencies seeking to set up the Trump campaign on criminal charges.

Sources close to the investigation added to the Post that the draft report written by IG David Horowitz is likely to detail instances of misconduct by FBI agents involved with the investigation but to conclude that top FBI officials did not act with political bias during the 2016 election.

“His excellent work has uncovered significant information that the American people will soon be able to read for themselves,” a spokeswoman for the Justice Department told the Post of the report's upcoming release. “Rather than speculating, people should read the report for themselves next week, watch the Inspector General’s testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee, and draw their own conclusions about these important matters.”

Republicans have argued since the inception of the now-shuttered special counsel investigation into the Trump campaign that the probe was launched improperly based on unfounded accusations detailed in a dossier crafted by an ex-British intelligence agent, Christopher Steele, and used by the Obama administration to hurt President Trump's chances of being elected.

Top former officials at the FBI have roundly dismissed that claim, arguing that the investigation was conducted without political bias.

https://thehill.com/policy/national-secu...s-set-up-by-doj



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Yep. Not looking good for my side.

We will see when the report comes out.

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Report: Barr attorney can't provide evidence Trump was set up by DOJ

The attorney handpicked by Attorney General William Barr to investigate the origins of the probe into the Trump campaign and Russia's election interference has reportedly found no evidence to support claims from conservatives that the case was a setup by U.S. intelligence officials.

Sources told The Washington Post that John Durham, the U.S. attorney chosen by Barr to lead the investigation, told the Justice Department's inspector general (IG), who conducted his own probe, that he has found no evidence to support claims that a Maltese professor who spoke with former Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos was secretly a U.S. intelligence asset.

Allies of the president have claimed for months that the professor, Joseph Mifsud, who spoke with Papadopoulos about the possibility of obtaining Hillary Clinton's stolen emails, was actually an asset of U.S. intelligence agencies seeking to set up the Trump campaign on criminal charges.

Sources close to the investigation added to the Post that the draft report written by IG David Horowitz is likely to detail instances of misconduct by FBI agents involved with the investigation but to conclude that top FBI officials did not act with political bias during the 2016 election.

“His excellent work has uncovered significant information that the American people will soon be able to read for themselves,” a spokeswoman for the Justice Department told the Post of the report's upcoming release. “Rather than speculating, people should read the report for themselves next week, watch the Inspector General’s testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee, and draw their own conclusions about these important matters.”

Republicans have argued since the inception of the now-shuttered special counsel investigation into the Trump campaign that the probe was launched improperly based on unfounded accusations detailed in a dossier crafted by an ex-British intelligence agent, Christopher Steele, and used by the Obama administration to hurt President Trump's chances of being elected.

Top former officials at the FBI have roundly dismissed that claim, arguing that the investigation was conducted without political bias.

https://thehill.com/policy/national-secu...s-set-up-by-doj



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Why are you laughing, that's good news. The DOJ didn't try to sabotage a political campaign (if this is true). Is this good?

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Just a guess here but maybe it's because Trump for three-plus years has been crowing about he was a victim and crying about a deep state that was out to get him. Again just guess but maybe he's laughing because the republican-led investigations into these bogus allegations have proved that Trump is just lying again.


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Why are you laughing, that's good news. The DOJ didn't try to sabotage a political campaign (if this is true). Is this good?


The laughter probably comes from Barr saying he doesn't believe his own, handpicked guy. That tells me he'll do what he did after the Mueller report comes out, he'll lie about it. He'll twist it in Trumps favor. I'm sure as I write this, he's rewriting the report that we may see on Monday.


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Why are you laughing, that's good news. The DOJ didn't try to sabotage a political campaign (if this is true). Is this good?


The laughter probably comes from Barr saying he doesn't believe his own, handpicked guy. That tells me he'll do what he did after the Mueller report comes out, he'll lie about it. He'll twist it in Trumps favor. I'm sure as I write this, he's rewriting the report that we may see on Monday.


Barr can't rewrite the IG report because that would make it the Barr report.

Barr has stated he has full confidence in the IG and Durham, he simply disagrees with the conclusion the IG comes to in the face of the evidence.

Most of what you are hearing now is the Left trying to get out ahead of the reports. The reports must be pretty bad for all this effort by the Media.

December 9th should answer all questions.

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Why are you laughing, that's good news. The DOJ didn't try to sabotage a political campaign (if this is true). Is this good?


The laughter probably comes from Barr saying he doesn't believe his own, handpicked guy. That tells me he'll do what he did after the Mueller report comes out, he'll lie about it. He'll twist it in Trumps favor. I'm sure as I write this, he's rewriting the report that we may see on Monday.


Barr can't rewrite the IG report because that would make it the Barr report.

Barr has stated he has full confidence in the IG and Durham, he simply disagrees with the conclusion the IG comes to in the face of the evidence.

Most of what you are hearing now is the Left trying to get out ahead of the reports. The reports must be pretty bad for all this effort by the Media.

December 9th should answer all questions.


You couldn't make this stuff up if you tried.... Thank you for the laughs. Do I need to spell out how ironic it is that you talk about how bad "the report" must be if the 'Left' is trying to get out in front of the release of the report ..... while also mentioning Barr? LMAO. Seriously that is some funny funny chit.


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Why are you laughing, that's good news. The DOJ didn't try to sabotage a political campaign (if this is true). Is this good?


The laughter probably comes from Barr saying he doesn't believe his own, handpicked guy. That tells me he'll do what he did after the Mueller report comes out, he'll lie about it. He'll twist it in Trumps favor. I'm sure as I write this, he's rewriting the report that we may see on Monday.


Barr can't rewrite the IG report because that would make it the Barr report.

Barr has stated he has full confidence in the IG and Durham, he simply disagrees with the conclusion the IG comes to in the face of the evidence.

Most of what you are hearing now is the Left trying to get out ahead of the reports. The reports must be pretty bad for all this effort by the Media.

December 9th should answer all questions.


You couldn't make this stuff up if you tried.... Thank you for the laughs. Do I need to spell out how ironic it is that you talk about how bad "the report" must be if the 'Left' is trying to get out in front of the release of the report ..... while also mentioning Barr? LMAO. Seriously that is some funny funny chit.


Uh, Barr knows the facts of the reports, the Left knows leaks.

Really not that hard. rolleyes

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
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Why are you laughing, that's good news. The DOJ didn't try to sabotage a political campaign (if this is true). Is this good?


The laughter probably comes from Barr saying he doesn't believe his own, handpicked guy. That tells me he'll do what he did after the Mueller report comes out, he'll lie about it. He'll twist it in Trumps favor. I'm sure as I write this, he's rewriting the report that we may see on Monday.


Barr can't rewrite the IG report because that would make it the Barr report.

Barr has stated he has full confidence in the IG and Durham, he simply disagrees with the conclusion the IG comes to in the face of the evidence.

Most of what you are hearing now is the Left trying to get out ahead of the reports. The reports must be pretty bad for all this effort by the Media.

December 9th should answer all questions.


No, he can't rewrite it, but like in the case of the Mueller report, he can misrepresent the findings..

But you know how this goes, if he does that, the Dems will get the report and let the world see it for what it is. Then of course, Trump will say he's being attacked again,.


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FISA report: DOJ watchdog releases findings on Russia probe surveillance

The report concluded that investigators found no intentional misconduct or political bias surrounding efforts to seek a highly controversial Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrant to monitor former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page in the early months of the Russia investigation -- but also faulted the FBI over numerous "omissions" and "inaccuracies" in the application process.


The IG probe identified at least 17 "significant" errors in the Page applications and said they would launch a new audit into the FISA process.

At the same time, the report said key officials including former FBI bosses James Comey and Andrew McCabe did not act with political bias and extended a similar finding to the overall surveillance efforts targeting Page.

“We did not find documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivation influenced the FBI’s decision to seek FISA authority on Carter Page,” the report said.

IG Michael Horowitz and his investigators probed how the unverified anti-Trump dossier compiled by former British spy Christopher Steele was used to secure the original FISA warrant for Page in October 2016, as well as other decisions at the outset of the FBI’s counterintelligence investigation of Russian election interference and the Trump campaign.

The release comes as Washington has been consumed with the impeachment inquiry into President Trump. The House Judiciary Committee was holding the inquiry’s latest hearing Monday, days after House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Democrats are moving forward with plans to bring articles of impeachment against the president over his dealings with Ukraine.

But the FISA report is sure to become a political football of its own, alongside the impeachment probe.

Republicans, led by Rep. Devin Nunes, R-Calif., have contested the FISA warrant and its subsequent renewal applications, claiming that the FBI misrepresented key evidence and omitted exculpatory information.

Nunes blasted the FBI for not revealing that evidence used to support the warrant application came from an unverified dossier compiled by Steele as opposition research for Hillary Clinton’s campaign. Democrats have pointed to a footnote in the warrant application that gave a general characterization of the nature of the information and how the FBI believed that it was part of an effort to get information to discredit Trump’s campaign, though it did not specifically mention Clinton or the Democratic National Committee.

Horowitz’s team has questioned why the FBI considered Steele a credible source, and why the bureau seemed to use news reports to bolster Steele’s credibility.

The inspector general has said his team has “reviewed over one million records and conducted over 100 interviews, including several witnesses who only recently agreed to be interviewed.” Page, who has been vocal about his belief that he was unjustly targeted, has expressed frustration over not being interviewed for Horowitz’s investigation. Page was never charged with a crime as a result of the surveillance.

Trump and his Republican allies have long questioned the Justice Department’s efforts to secure the surveillance warrants. Earlier this year, Attorney General Bill Barr said "spying" did occur against the Trump campaign during the campaign. But critics pushed back: James Comey, who was FBI director at the time, dismissed Barr’s claims, saying he “never thought of” electronic surveillance as “spying.”

Next, Horowitz is scheduled to testify before the Senate Judiciary Committee Wednesday morning to answer questions about his probe.

The Horowitz findings come amid another, broader inquiry related to the 2016 election: Barr has assigned John Durham, the U.S. attorney for Connecticut, to conduct an inquiry into alleged misconduct and alleged improper government surveillance on the Trump campaign during the 2016 presidential election. That investigation is criminal in nature, and Republicans may look to it to uncover wrongdoing that the inspector general wasn’t examining.

Ahead of the release, some of the people who worked at the FBI at the time attempted to get ahead of the report to defend their actions. Lisa Page, the ex-FBI lawyer who carried on an extramarital affair with former FBI head of counterintelligence Peter Strzok as the two exchanged anti-Trump text messages during the investigation, recently granted an interview for a sympathetic piece at The Daily Beast, saying “there’s no fathomable way that I have committed any crime at all.”

Meanwhile, a key FBI player during the time frame, former FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe, has been facing the prospect of federal charges after Horowitz faulted him in a separate inquiry over statements he made during a Hillary Clinton-related investigation. The review found that McCabe "lacked candor" when talking with investigators, but the former FBI official has denied wrongdoing. McCabe has not been indicted.

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