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I actually think this is a good sign long term.

We literally went 3 quarters (end of half last week and first q this week) with giving Chubb I think 7 total carries.

If people still want to say Freddie deserves a shot, Idk what to tell you. I literally wanted to punch him in the face yesterday watching that game unfold.

j/c

Was at the game (got to watch it in a suite, which was ... sweet). Even when we were ahead, it didn't feel like it.

- D bent, but did not break. Seemed like little pressure on Dalton, but also seemed as though we did not dial it up, either. I still have no idea why we did not blitz the crap out of Duck the previous week.

- D seemed uninspired. After Duck completed a couple of prayers in the 2nd quarter last week, the D look like they folded. Looks like it carried over to this game.

- Tackling is horrendous.

- Why do we take the KO out of the end zone as often as we do?

- I feel that first int, off of Njoku, was bogus. Since when is a guy who is taken down and on his back not down? And I am sure the original call on the field was a fumble, which would have made less sense.

- That second pick was a bad throw by Baker. He had a bad game. End of story.

- The int that got overturned ... surprised me. Was absolutely the right call, but I was not expecting it.

- All I need to know about Grossi - on the way home we were listening to the radio and Grossi said he did not see any pass interference on the int that was overturned. Riiiiight.

- What was the Bengals challenging at the end of the game, where they lost their last time out? The long YAC with Landry? We could not figure it out. We were thinking maybe they thought there was an illegal man downfield. But that is not challengable, correct?

- Made it to my first SaintDawg tailgate. Awesome atmosphere, awesome people.

Never thought of it that way. You are right it means they care about getting better. And that there are problems that can and should be fixed.

its not a good thing at all.. that means the culture being built is not one of support and encouragement. This is a worse locker room than anything under Hue

yes, they were challenging that, and frankly - they should have won it. lol

Offensive pass interference

Technically, I believe they challenged for uncalled "offensive pass interference" since illegal man downfield is not able to be challenged. But yes, the fact that we had an OL down field and blocking before Landry caught the ball is exactly WHAT they were challenging - and they should have won it.

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Landry caught it behind the line of scrimmage, so can't have men downfield.

bengals werent challenging illegal man down field .. they were challenging offensive PI..

Landry was wide open bc Browns TE (Carlson??) blocked/picked off the Bengals DB before Landry even caught the ball.

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The TE was blocking before the ball was caught, which would be OPI if I am not mistaken.

Aaron Rodgers plays for a team that's 10-3 and played one poor game and won ugly. If the Browns were 10-3 and headed to the playoffs and had one off game that was ugly, the team would be very happy about getting away with one.... but that's not the case.

The Browns fully understand, as they should, that each and every week they leave a lot of good football on the field... with only a couple of exceptions, they either win ugly or lose uglier.

I disagree. How many times have we seen this team win meaningless games in December and act like they won the lottery.

The fact these guys know they are underachieving is a good thing. Now it's all what do they do about it.

Cannot have Offensive pass interference because ball was caught behind the line of scrimmage. The Bengals challenged because if the pass was beyond the line of scrimmage it would have been pass interference. No penalty on that play.

They don't matter...They don't wear Brown and Orange

When did Hue Jackson win 4 out of five games?

San Francisco last year...

Although hard to compare Freddie and Baker to Kyle and JG.

Yeah it is. Kyle and JG have had more time.

I am not questioning OPI, I was questioning the notion of there being an illegal man downfield. I am not 100% sure on if where the ball is caught also negates OPI, as it does with the man downfield.

Just curious, when I posted a long list of HC that had successful first years with teams against kitchens you refuted it, saying that it meant nothing, yet know you want to use the coaches that had a bad record to support your argument for kitchens. . . . glad to see you make things up as you go.

Redwine looked good, especially by comparison. Our TV is airing out in the driveway. Ugly wins count.

I was simply pointing out how you didn't really have a point. That far more great coaches started out with poor records. That was the proof that your stats were meaningless when you looked at things from an objective perspective.

Try again.

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Nah, we can all see that its just you trying to move goalposts again to fit your side of things.

Yeah, sometimes when someone like you tries to spread an agenda, I'm going to show the other side of it.