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All of this fire Romeo talk has got me wondering. Just who is out there?
Let's not get on a Bil Cowher or Marty Schottenheimer kick, though either one would suit me. I wanna know who out there now besides those two would you consider bringing in here if Romeo happens to get the axe after this season. Also who on this current staff would you be willing to keep.
My vote to keep is Chud and maybe our TE coach (who's name slips me right now) because he has seem to done one hell of a job. Whatever coach we would bring in he definately has to come with the 3-4 mentality. Maybe one of the Ryan brothers.
This isn't a fire Romeo thread it's a what if, so I don't need any smart ass reply's.
Any thoughts?
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The most obvious answer is Opie's friend Ferentz.
Keep in mind that there aren't any names out there right now. The good ones who aren't named Shott and Chin are employed. It's hard to say who'll be let go, which coordinator would show up as a great candidate, etc etc etc.
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Ferentz was something that I was thinking that could be a possibility but I really hope we don't take the route of college coach again.
I guess my real question should be are there any coordinators out there that would be worth a look?
All I know is whatever coach we bring in I hope brings some passion with him. A little bit of a fiery demeanor.
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Keep Chud. Our TE Coach is Alfredo Roberts.
My pick is Mike Singletary. He played in the 3-4, he's coaching a 3-4 right now, and he's coaching what has been a very good defense. Granted Pitt somewhat lit them up, but with how long they were on the field, its hard to not give up as many points as they did.
Mike Singletary could do things, as long as we keep Chud.
With Mikey we dont have to dump the whole team to reconfigure like we did when Romeo came in, and we can get a team thats a lot more aggressive. 85 Bears? please?
That being said. I'm not ready to throw Romeo under the bus yet. I saw in his presser this week a determined man. A man who is very angry that we are playing bad football every other week. I'm ready to back this guy fully. He cares, and I'm glad he cares. Lets keep him here for a little while
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Keep in mind that there aren't any names out there right now. The good ones who aren't named Shott and Chin are employed. It's hard to say who'll be let go, which coordinator would show up as a great candidate, etc etc etc.
I love this.. we can't wait to get another coach in here that was just fired 
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Parcells anyone? 
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Ha, he seems about the only guy that could right this ship. Don't want him though.
Can you imagine some of his sound clips from press conferences with the Cleveland media? They ask some really stupid questions.
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The most obvious answer is Opie's friend Ferentz.
Keep in mind that there aren't any names out there right now. The good ones who aren't named Shott and Chin are employed. It's hard to say who'll be let go, which coordinator would show up as a great candidate, etc etc etc.
I love this.. we can't wait to get another coach in here that was just fired
Yeah, but how many coaches in history were fired after going 14-2? *L*
Okay..........Another name is Ron Rivera. Another is Rex Ryan. A guy that got the shaft at his previous gig is Jim Haslett.
Who else.......Don't count out Dennis Green. Another is Jim Mora Jr., despite the stoopid crap he fired off with in that presser. Every coach thinks it. He was just dumb enough to say it out loud *L* Sooner or later, USC's head coach will come back to the league. I'm also surprised that Mooch hasn't gotten a sniff yet. I always thought he was a great head coach.
Frankly, I think it makes sense to bring in a defensive minded coach who'll let an offensive guy run the offense.
Oh, I know it's supposed to be too soon to call RAC a dead man, but reality says his odds of survival are looooong.
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My pick is Mike Singletary. He played in the 3-4, he's coaching a 3-4 right now, and he's coaching what has been a very good defense. Granted Pitt somewhat lit them up, but with how long they were on the field, its hard to not give up as many points as they did.
Mike Singletary could do things, as long as we keep Chud.
With Mikey we dont have to dump the whole team to reconfigure like we did when Romeo came in, and we can get a team thats a lot more aggressive. 85 Bears? please?
That being said. I'm not ready to throw Romeo under the bus yet. I saw in his presser this week a determined man. A man who is very angry that we are playing bad football every other week. I'm ready to back this guy fully. He cares, and I'm glad he cares. Lets keep him here for a little while
Do NOT get me excited like that...Mike Singletary would be a great HC.
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The most obvious answer is Opie's friend Ferentz.
Keep in mind that there aren't any names out there right now. The good ones who aren't named Shott and Chin are employed. It's hard to say who'll be let go, which coordinator would show up as a great candidate, etc etc etc.
I love this.. we can't wait to get another coach in here that was just fired
Yeah, but how many coaches in history were fired after going 14-2? *L*
Okay..........Another name is Ron Rivera. Another is Rex Ryan. A guy that got the shaft at his previous gig is Jim Haslett.
Who else.......Don't count out Dennis Green. Another is Jim Mora Jr., despite the stoopid crap he fired off with in that presser. Every coach thinks it. He was just dumb enough to say it out loud *L* Sooner or later, USC's head coach will come back to the league. I'm also surprised that Mooch hasn't gotten a sniff yet. I always thought he was a great head coach.
Frankly, I think it makes sense to bring in a defensive minded coach who'll let an offensive guy run the offense.
Oh, I know it's supposed to be too soon to call RAC a dead man, but reality says his odds of survival are looooong.
If I can't have Cowher or Marty, I'll take an offensive guy.
We've gone defensive guy twice in a row and it hasn't done much good for us. I'm more of a fan of the offense oriented coach.
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I wouldn't mind an offensive coach as long as he understands defense wins championships.
I don't want one of those coaches that's going to think we can just out-score everyone and year in and year out devotes the draft to the offensive side of the ball.
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I wouldn't mind an offensive coach as long as he understands defense wins championships.
I don't want one of those coaches that's going to think we can just out-score everyone and year in and year out devotes the draft to the offensive side of the ball.
I'm assuming Savage would still be here making those draft decisions.
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If I can't have Cowher or Marty, I'll take an offensive guy.
We've gone defensive guy twice in a row and it hasn't done much good for us. I'm more of a fan of the offense oriented coach.
Maybe you meant it another way, but as it reads, it appears you're willing to try an offensive guy just because defensive one's didn't work.
Keep in mind the guys we tried 
Butch turned out to be a pure turd, not only as a coach, but as a person (as it pertains to being trusted and telling what passes as enough of the truth).
RAC is, by all accounts, a great man, but he lacks many things that a HC needs.
I don't think we've chosen poorly to go with a defensive guy as the HC, just that we've chosen the wrong defensive guys.
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We've gone defensive guy twice in a row and it hasn't done much good for us. I'm more of a fan of the offense oriented coach.
Maybe you meant it another way, but as it reads, it appears you're willing to try an offensive guy just because defensive one's didn't work.
Keep in mind the guys we tried 
Butch turned out to be a pure turd, not only as a coach, but as a person (as it pertains to being trusted and telling what passes as enough of the truth).
RAC is, by all accounts, a great man, but he lacks many things that a HC needs.
I don't think we've chosen poorly to go with a defensive guy as the HC, just that we've chosen the wrong defensive guys.
Point taken, but you can't deny that most of the time defensive coaches are more conservative. I'm not a fan of conservative football unless the situation dictates it.
Belichick may not be conservative now, but he couldn't even spell offense in Cleveland.
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Obviously Marty is high on alot of people's lists. I really think its a great fit..(familiar with Chud, 3-4)...but I digress. Mooch would be interesting. He did well in SF, but I felt he got the shaft in Detroit. Wonder how the WCO would work here. Mora did well in ATL but didnt have a QB...say what you will about Vick, there was no way he was gonna run the WCO. Rivera would be a good choice I think. Chicago's D was one of the top units while he was there. Why did they let him go? I don't know that Green would be a good fit. He is a good coach though. He didn't have a chance in AZ. I think Parcells is done...I wouldn't mind bringing him in though. He really turned Dallas around. 3-4 coach as well. Ferentz is who I think Phil would really try to get in here. I think thats who he originally wanted, but Romeo was already here. Hopefully we go 14-2 and all of this is moot. 
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I really wanted the Steelers to hire Mike Singletary....although I am not complaining at all about Tomlin...
But honestly...IMO the best guy for the job....Is Marty....all the guy has done is win every where he has gone.....He had Cleveland in the hunt...then took a Chiefs team that was going no where...and turned them into contenders....He would have turned that Washington team around if given an actual chance before he got Snyder'd....and he had San Diego on the brink.....we all see how they are doing with him gone.
Marty is just the guy to take what Romeo and Savage have started in the right direction.....There are a lot of guy that if you bring them in...it will be time to rip it all down and start over.....
Marty is a great coach.
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I take it June Jones is not on your list. 
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What Hack Said!  I know the original thread said they really didn't want to hear about Cowher and Marty,but the question is,do we want to go through "experiment #4"? I always though the "three strikes and you're out" rule was fairly effective. But after three innexperienced NFL head coaches swinging and missing,I'm certainly hoping our FO uses sound logic and goes with a guy like Marty who has already shown he "can right a ship". Because so far,the batting average of these three "experiments" has given us zero results. It's time for this experimental phase of head coaching for the Browns to come to and end if and when they decise to replace RAC.
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I am not sure I can name anybody right now.
My feeling is Savage and Romeo are tied together by Lerner..closer than many think....and if Romeo goes, there is a good chance Savage goes...but that isn't with 100% conviction....and the Savage factor will dictate much on who the next coach might be.
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The problem with head coaches that have already had jobs, is they were fired for a reason. Marty's being the weakest, but still legit.
Cowher is a guy thatd be nice to have, but IMO he's a steeler. I know he's played and coached here, but hes a Steeler. So...as good as he may be, no thanks.
I mean every good head coach was a coordinator at some point. I mean, these guys didnt just spawn as successful head coaches. We've just struggled with picking the right guy.
Butch Davis was a good coach. He took bad talent and made them a playoff team in 02. So...Our biggest mistake there, wasnt with having Butch Davis as the HC, the problem was not keeping his power in check.
Romeo, has all the credentials. He's got rings, he's been an ST coordinator and a DC where he's gotten the rings. Its not like he was a terrible choice. The only knock against him is that he wasnt a head coach at his age for a reason. So we made a mistake there.
Its not that these guys arent established coaches, we just made mistakes with their hirings or terms of hiring.
To move on and take an HC. Does anyone want a fired head coach? Look at Dick Jauron in Buffalo, he was an established head coach, and Buffalo is still not that good. Dave Wanstedt was an established head coach when Jimmy Johnson turned Miami over to him. Fired coaches are just that, fired because they did things wrong.
You either get a coach, or you dont. Its hard to decide why people where fired, and if they were if it was a legit reason.
Mariucci in Detroit, he did nothing. Granted he was a bit hamstrung by Harrington and a bad D, but he didnt improve that.
Mike Martz in STL...he didnt so much get fired so much as his health failed him. That scares me.
Jim Mora Jr. He tried to force a team play a way they couldnt. Im not excited about that.
Marty, cant win in the playoffs. He's generally too conservative.
Cowher, his heart was questioned in 06.
Haslett and Tice couldnt win after November. and Haslett stuck with a bad QB for too long (sound familiar).
I mean all these guys have legit reasons to why they werent good head coaches where they were. Do we want that baggage?
Why not get a young up-and-comer. Mike Singletary is a name i like. I think he's going to be a great QB. I'm sure theres some good college coaches we could pick up too. I have no problems with them, because theyre making the move because of PROVEN SUCCESS. The big question is we gotta know if itll translate to NFL success. Can they coach that way? Thats a judgment call, as it is with any coordinator.
The thing is, we have to interview SEVERAL candidates. You cant have a short list of coaches you want. We had a big list for OC, and Chud was a minor blip, I think we wanted him to be a TE coach for us again more than an OC, but he blew us away with his preparation. And it shows with our team on the field (barring some of the penalties)
IF and only IF we're going to stray from Romeo at any point in time. The guy that comes in better have done his homework, and then some. He has to go above and beyond our expectations and thats how we can know we have the right coach.
and for my money, I still want Mike Singletary, if we fire romeo, which i am still by no means abdicating
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Ferentz is a pretty obvious possibility.. I think he and Savage are friends and they worked together under Belichick here with the Browns.. Right now the guy has a sweetheart deal where he is so I don't know if we could entice him to a job where the coach just got fired half way through a rebuild...
Marty wouldn't come back I bet and I'm pretty sure you won't get Cowher either unless it two years from now.
I don't think you can get a Cowher or Marty or any of the high level "Brand Name" coaches to come here. At least not unless you were willing to pay $10 mill a year...
Looking inside at Chud or Granthum would be ok..
All I know is this, Our Offense seems to be clicking,,, so you wanna keep a Chud here to keep the momentum going..
And whoever you hire as HC after RAC ought to demand a Improved DLine! Or he don't take the job...
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My guess would be that Savage would get one more chance to pick a winning HC. A bad second pick would get him the boot. IMO
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I've heard the same from others and just can't understand it.
Chud has been an OC in the NFL for about 10 games now including his short stint here in 2004 when Butch bailed. Before that he was our TE coach. In SD he was a TE coach.
What qualifies him to be a head coach in the NFL?
Grantham was a defensive line coach before he came here. Now he's been a DC for two years and 3 games overseeing a defense that has accomplished pretty much nothing so far but the bottom rankings in virtually all major defensive catagories.
What qualifies him to be a head coach in the NFL?
Some folks hate on RAC even though he's coached on teams winning 5 SuperBowls. Now, it seems many are gun shy of any first-time head coach.
Yet, the names of Chud and Grantham keep coming up. ???
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I don't want a coach/GM.. I just don't.... It should be two seperate jobs.. that way you CAN get a coach that wants to outscore everybody but a GM to keep him under control... and you might end up with Billick and Newsome... 
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No I didn't mean it like that. I just kind of had a brain fart.
I want Savage to stay.
For some reason I just excluded him in the descision making. LOL.
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Don't get me wrong I want and experienced head coach and Marty or Cowher would be first on my wish list.
This was merely to find out who if those two were not available who would anybody want to bring in. I just wanted to leave them out because it would turn into why or why we should or shouldn't bring those two in and stray away from what I was looking to accomplish here. Everyoen knows what those two are capable of.
Basically who might be an up and comer and why you think they might be a good fit for this team.
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I for one am pretty sold on possibly bringing in Mike Singletary. Everywhere that guy has gone he has done an outstanding job. He is a player that has played at an extremely high level and knows what it takes to win. He has played for and coached with some really good coaches and that is something that just can't be over-looked.
He and Mike Nolan have really turned around that 49ers defense.
That would be my candidiate. I don't even want to consider another college coach.
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Ok, I can speculate.
Cowher. First choice. Generally reconized as a good NFL coach, the problem will be how much control will he want over the draft.
Marty... Marty... Marty.... I have mixed emotions about this. Yes Marty will take a crappy team and make it a good one. But that playoff record will come back to haunt him.
Mooch, an interesting thought. I would have to interview him and get his take on the hopless Lions situation.
Denny Green, no way.
Of the other coaches... I would not go college.
I like Singletary and think that he will be a NFL coach soon. I rould rationalize to myself that he would keep chud because of the Turner offense that was run in SF.
Chud. I like what I see so far.
Jason Garret. He will be an NFL coach soon.
Rex Ryan... I was surprised that San Diego did not hire him.
Ron Rivera, all he does is interview, but I honestly think he is in line to take the San Diego job if Norv continues to bomb.
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You think San Diego is missing Marty right now?
I guarantee they are. I was shocked they let him go after going 14-2. Yeah, they keep getting knocked out of the playoffs, but he had them playing very well, and they hired Norv Turner, who is the poster child for losing. They blame it on him inheriting bad teams, but guess what? He walked into a dream job, and I know it's early, but after 3 weeks they already have as many losses as they did last season. Marty is an excellent coach, like you said. Sure, they lost some of their other coaches as well, but I really don't think Norv Turner is a guy who will thrive as a HC. He's always been a great coordinator, but as a HC- no.
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The Marty thing was and still is a disaster. AJ and Marty never got along. AJ was blindsided when Cam and Wade left, he should have changed to either Cam or Wade before Marty was let go. Marty did not help his cause, he wanted to get some coaches that AJ did not agree with.
Continuity lasts about 3 weeks when you are 1-2 after going 14-2 the year before.
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Chud has been an OC in the NFL for about 10 games now including his short stint here in 2004 when Butch bailed. Before that he was our TE coach. In SD he was a TE coach.
What qualifies him to be a head coach in the NFL?
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Some folks hate on RAC even though he's coached on teams winning 5 SuperBowls. Now, it seems many are gun shy of any first-time head coach.
First off,questioning his abilities and what people have seen in him in regards to "head coaching qualities" isn't "hating" on anyone. He's had over two years to "show signs" of head coaching "abilities". Not win,but signs that given the talent,that he has qualities showing he can.And his results haven't been any better than Granthoms. You remember,the guy who's abilities you yourself were questioning above?
Secondly,being a good DC or OC has very little relivance to being a successfull NFL head coach. While many current NFL head coaches have made the jump from OC/DC to successfull NFL head coaches,you know as well as I do,that the league is riddled with those who also have not. And many such people that have made that jump that are currently acting head coaches,the jury is still out on.
There is no direct corelation or garuntees that a good DC or OC will make a quality NFL head coach. You know that as well as I do. Any time you give something like that a try,it's a crap shoot. Yes,it can pay big dividends. But it also involves major risks.
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Basically who might be an up and comer and why you think they might be a good fit for this team.
Oh I understand. But I believe if you read my above post to ddub,you'll see my reasoning.
Because there's no doubt about the fact that RAC had the pedigree as a DC coming in here. That's the major problem I see with the "up and comer" idea.
Now if we had a successfull team and our coach retired "ala Steelers",your actual team itself can cover for some of this "up and comers" weak points untill he gets the finer points down. He has a winning team,developed talent and sound,established management and ownership in place. All of the tangibles are in place to help him along.
IMO.that's the perfect situation to "lessen the gameble" of bringing in and "up and comer".
See,it's my considered opinion that you need "sound.established leadership" to get a fledgling team on its feet.
Look at the Browns. Randy inherrited the team. As an owner,while he is willing to pay the price and costs to bring a winner to Cleveland,his football experience as an owner is of a short term nature. He does not have the experience in "this business" to fall back on.
Our GM,while I feel has done a pretty good job at acquiring talent,is also a novice at the GM position. So as you can see,while Randy has a fat checkbook and Phil seems to be a pretty good talent evaluater,where is "the experience factor" at any level of our management and coaching staff at their perspective current roles?
We have a guy who has a VERY short career as an owner,a GM who has VERY little experience at that position. Our OC,while showing signs of life is also very innexperienced at that role. Our DC hasn't really shown any signs of at his position.
So point being,who in this entire organisation has the experience in their perspective positions to right this ship?
See,I think there are combinations that can breed success. If if you have an Art Rooney and a Dick Labough,you have the experience in place that your odds of success with an "up and comer" are optimum. You have the experience in place to tutor a guy and help "develop him INTO" a great NFL head coach.
We don't have a situation anywhere nearly similar to that. We don't have that experienced owner,DC,GM or winning team. None of those ingrediants. As a matter of fact,we are SO innexperienced in regards to ownership and our FO personnel,that it's almost IMPERATIVE that we "bring experience in".
I feel that's been the problem all along to a great degree. To "build a team from the ground up" somebody within the chain of command MUST have the experience to have the where with all and experience to accomplish that.
While Phil IMO CAN be a great GM,he hasn't "built a team from the ground up". While Randy has a fat check book,he doesn't have decades of experience to base his decisions on in the NFL. So if we don't hire a guy like Marty,where will we draw the experience from to accomplish our goal?
That my friend in and of itself describes much of the problem we are currently in. I believe if RAC had just been hired as the Steelers head coach,he would stand pretty good odds of success. Because Rooney and Labough have the experience to help mold RAC into a head coach.
But RAC was brought into a situation where there is no experience above him to help guide him and mold him into a successfull head coach. That's something that I believe is key as to why RAC is and will have a rough time finding success here as a head coach. And a guy like Marty brings that experience in leadership that this organisation as a whole is sorely lacking.
I don't feel bringing in yet another "up and comer" in here will help. Because we have absolutely NONE of the key ingrediants in our FO or ownership to help groom an up and comer. That makes them all a long shot in our situation.
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Marty... Marty... Marty.... I have mixed emotions about this. Yes Marty will take a crappy team and make it a good one. But that playoff record will come back to haunt him.
True. Still, at this point in the game, he's one of the most respected coaches in the history of the league, and players respond to him. If the players believe, that's more than half the battle, and right now, I'm not the least bit convinced that the players believe in what they are doing.
Frankly, I'd settle for Marty getting us back to winning ways. Once that is accomplished, if he has a string of failures in the playoffs, then and only then would I worry about getting to the next step.
I think we need to walk before we can run..........
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Frankly, I'd settle for Marty getting us back to winning ways. Once that is accomplished, if he has a string of failures in the playoffs, then and only then would I worry about getting to the next step.
I think we need to walk before we can run..........
Ding ding ding ding ding.......
All the talk about Marty's playoff career doesn't matter at all. If you can't win a game, you can't get to the playoffs. Do you think that San Diego wishes they still had Marty? It's still early, but I'm sure they'd much rather be 14 - 2, than 1 - 2 and looking down the road at a long season......
You have to win in the regular season, to get to the playoffs.....
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I've heard the same from others and just can't understand it.
Chud has been an OC in the NFL for about 10 games now including his short stint here in 2004 when Butch bailed. Before that he was our TE coach. In SD he was a TE coach.
What qualifies him to be a head coach in the NFL?
The person who started this thread asked for options, and I gave a few. I'm not supporting anyone for head coach except RAC...
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