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https://www.newsweek.com/americans-react...rvative-1477076Great victory for Conservatives in UK. The citizens on the UK said no to a radical socialist progressive agenda. I do feel the US will follow suit next November. This result also help the US when Britain pulls out of the EU to set up a trade agreement with the US.
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https://www.newsweek.com/americans-react...rvative-1477076Great victory for Conservatives in UK. The citizens on the UK said no to a radical socialist progressive agenda. I do feel the US will follow suit next November. This result also help the US when Britain pulls out of the EU to set up a trade agreement with the US. This has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the UK saying no to a "radical socialist progressive agenda". If this is what you gleam from the election results then you have absolutely no clue what the British people are saying. The traditional hotbed of the Labour government, the midlands and the north HAVE, like the industrial union areas of the American midwest, flipped Conservative. However, it has nothing to do with a Socialist Progressive Agenda. It's because they bought into some make believe Britain that once existed in 1960 returning to their hamlets, towns, cities and shires. However it's an impossible thing for the Tories to provide and in the long run it will haunt them. However, they can enjoy their short term success. Meanwhile, London and the south, which were traditionally Conservative are now flipping to Labour. The biggest problem, however, is Labour are led (soon to be " were led") by an idiot and Corbyn suffered the biggest landslide in decades. A humiliating defeat. This says more about him than it does the party, however, the party will take years to recoup from this defeat. Remember, in case you didn't know....people in the UK vote for their MP within their constituency and the Party then chooses/elects its leader. Labour chose Corbyn simply because he was the leader of the party, however, it has proven to be a grave mistake. The conservatives, meanwhile may want out of Europe, but they have absolutely no plan to return the working mills and industry to the midlands or the north. Nor do they plan on returning the UK to the days of 1960. There is a reason why the conservatives call London "Singapore on the Thames". They want to model the UK to look more like Singapore, which has an open door policy for immigrants who travel to the country to work (particularly high income white collar work). So, to the chagrin of the midlands and northern people who voted for them thinking they were to "Make Britain Great (White) Again" the plan will encourage MORE immigration from all over the world. Working class Britain believed the Tories were going to bring employment to regions or protect jobs etc. but they were totally duped and lied to and they bought it hook line and sinker. No different than those who voted for Trump. He has no interest nor cares about the average working class person in middle America, however, strangely...they believe he does. Same can be said in England. The Tories do not care for the average person. But, they manipulated them enough to get their vote and it worked for the short term. History will judge them, however, on the long term and I don't think it will be particularly kind.
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I heard a rumor that The United Nations have voted to change the name Great Britain to just Britain.
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the scottish picked up a lot of seats, signaling that they are gonna have an independence referendum again. scotland and northern ireland want to remain in the EU, not be apart of brexit.
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It's going to be interesting to see how this plays itself out. At least we won't be the only nation to look like total idiots.
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Scotland and Ireland should vote for independence. After reading this morning that the conservative end game is to have the UK be modeled like Singapore, I'd want out of that too. BoJo=Bozo.
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Scotland and Ireland should vote for independence. After reading this morning that the conservative end game is to have the UK be modeled like Singapore, I'd want out of that too. BoJo=Bozo. Just curious, have you ever been to Singapore?
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https://www.newsweek.com/americans-react...rvative-1477076Great victory for Conservatives in UK. The citizens on the UK said no to a radical socialist progressive agenda. I do feel the US will follow suit next November. This result also help the US when Britain pulls out of the EU to set up a trade agreement with the US. This has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the UK saying no to a "radical socialist progressive agenda". If this is what you gleam from the election results then you have absolutely no clue what the British people are saying. The traditional hotbed of the Labour government, the midlands and the north HAVE, like the industrial union areas of the American midwest, flipped Conservative. However, it has nothing to do with a Socialist Progressive Agenda. It's because they bought into some make believe Britain that once existed in 1960 returning to their hamlets, towns, cities and shires. However it's an impossible thing for the Tories to provide and in the long run it will haunt them. However, they can enjoy their short term success. Meanwhile, London and the south, which were traditionally Conservative are now flipping to Labour. The biggest problem, however, is Labour are led (soon to be " were led") by an idiot and Corbyn suffered the biggest landslide in decades. A humiliating defeat. This says more about him than it does the party, however, the party will take years to recoup from this defeat. Remember, in case you didn't know....people in the UK vote for their MP within their constituency and the Party then chooses/elects its leader. Labour chose Corbyn simply because he was the leader of the party, however, it has proven to be a grave mistake. The conservatives, meanwhile may want out of Europe, but they have absolutely no plan to return the working mills and industry to the midlands or the north. Nor do they plan on returning the UK to the days of 1960. There is a reason why the conservatives call London "Singapore on the Thames". They want to model the UK to look more like Singapore, which has an open door policy for immigrants who travel to the country to work (particularly high income white collar work). So, to the chagrin of the midlands and northern people who voted for them thinking they were to "Make Britain Great (White) Again" the plan will encourage MORE immigration from all over the world. Working class Britain believed the Tories were going to bring employment to regions or protect jobs etc. but they were totally duped and lied to and they bought it hook line and sinker. No different than those who voted for Trump. He has no interest nor cares about the average working class person in middle America, however, strangely...they believe he does. Same can be said in England. The Tories do not care for the average person. But, they manipulated them enough to get their vote and it worked for the short term. History will judge them, however, on the long term and I don't think it will be particularly kind. Your post is not atypical of what most on the left believe whether it's here or anywhere else. Throw out political ideas, those ideas get pushback and might get rejected... well it can't be that reasonable people just disagree with those ideas, it HAS GOT TO BE that the people are either too stupid, easily manipulated, or just plain racists.. otherwise they would see the inherent brilliance in the plans the left has offered. This level of elitist arrogance is the reason the working class folk don't like the left and won't vote for the left because instead of trying to reach them, the left insults and demeans them, all while preaching how tolerant they are. This may come as a shock to some.... but rural/country people are a proud people and don't respond well to that. Hillary may have had absolutely wonderful plans to help rural America, best plans ever, and many might have been willing to listen to her... but when she calls my small town, my neighbors, my blue collar friends, and by association, me... deplorable and racist.. then she can go screw herself. I will vote for the lying womanizer who at least is making an effort to show me some respect... or so the thought goes. The left, around the world, has been playing the game the same way you just did for years and has taken smackdown after smackdown but absolutely refuses to admit that the problem can be, in any way, with themselves. It's just those ignorant, racist dumbarses who refuse to see our benevolent brilliance... you should call them more names until they agree with you. Good plan! 
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https://www.newsweek.com/americans-react...rvative-1477076Great victory for Conservatives in UK. The citizens on the UK said no to a radical socialist progressive agenda. I do feel the US will follow suit next November. This result also help the US when Britain pulls out of the EU to set up a trade agreement with the US. The Conservative Party in the UK would be Democrats in the USA. Some might be very centrist Democrats - but they all believe in healthcare for all and the National Healthcare (Government run Healthcare).
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It's interesting how he didn't address that the other side does the exact same thing.
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It's interesting how he didn't address that the other side does the exact same thing. Typical of you. "BUt what about.....what about?' Laughable, and sad that you can't even comment on his post. Just mine. We have a difference in opinion, yet SOME on here demand their opinion is right, and anyone that disagrees is wrong. The worst part here in the last 3+ years is the dems/libs doing exactly what they claim not to do: Attempting to belittle others, calling others names, being butt hurt that Hillary didn't win, demeaning, attempting to debase others, etc, ad nauseum. Plus, not even having the brains to see that 'attack mode' is solidifying others. Thank you.
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You bet it was ,very eloquently laid out...I give credit where its due.
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Scotland and Ireland should vote for independence. After reading this morning that the conservative end game is to have the UK be modeled like Singapore, I'd want out of that too. BoJo=Bozo. Just curious, have you ever been to Singapore? No. That has little to do with my reasoning though bro. The article said the Singapore model of open borders immigration policy for higher end workers. So the better paying jobs open to world wide competition... sounds economically dreamy. But I understand your point, Singapore is a very modern city. I also admit I know very little about what it is actually like and based my comment on what the article described as the conservative end game for UK. But from my understanding of the article, imagine having a good union job or tech job and suddenly you have to compete with people from around the world willing to work for less. Good for business, bad for workers.
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Scotland and Ireland should vote for independence. After reading this morning that the conservative end game is to have the UK be modeled like Singapore, I'd want out of that too. BoJo=Bozo. Just curious, have you ever been to Singapore? No. That has little to do with my reasoning though bro. The article said the Singapore model of open borders immigration policy for higher end workers. So the better paying jobs open to world wide competition... sounds economically dreamy. But I understand your point, Singapore is a very modern city. I also admit I know very little about what it is actually like and based my comment on what the article described as the conservative end game for UK. But from my understanding of the article, imagine having a good union job or tech job and suddenly you have to compete with people from around the world willing to work for less. Good for business, bad for workers. Of all the ports I visited, if I had to pick one to model a country after, at least superficially, it'd probably be Singapore. (Sydney is up there, too.) Highly ranked education system. Universal health insurance. High standard of living. High traffic areas looked nice and clean. (I didn't get too far off the beaten path.) Competition can be good or bad. I generally see it as a positive. Do you want the best talent working for your country or someone else's? Although I suppose working for a corporation in a country isn't the same as working for the country. I'm also not sure getting undercut is really an issue there. The average expat pay package in Singapore for 2018 was around US$236k. link I'm sure living there would be an adjustment, but the visit was nice. It might not be the greatest comparison/goal, but I can think of a lot worse countries to compare to. Ireland does seem to have a much better economy than the rest of the UK, though, so separation could make sense. For Scotland, it doesn't seem as clear. I'm curious to see how the "Singapore model" would actually work. I'm not particularly swayed by either the best case or worst case scenarios that seem to primarily get thrown around.
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https://www.newsweek.com/americans-react...rvative-1477076Great victory for Conservatives in UK. The citizens on the UK said no to a radical socialist progressive agenda. I do feel the US will follow suit next November. This result also help the US when Britain pulls out of the EU to set up a trade agreement with the US. Seems the handwriting is on the wall for 2020. Left-wing Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn saw his party mauled in Britain’s general election Thursday as its strongholds across the country fell to Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s Conservative Party -- a dramatic result that commentators on both sides of the pond are seeing as a warning to socialist-leaning Democrats ahead of the U.S. presidential election. And for those who have openly cautioned about the party's drift to the left, the U.K. results were treated as nothing short of a wake-up call. A sign, for some, that even a populist incumbent as irreverent and contentious as Johnson could ride to victory when the alternative is an equally controversial leftist vowing massive government expansion.
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the scottish picked up a lot of seats, signaling that they are gonna have an independence referendum again. scotland and northern ireland want to remain in the EU, not be apart of brexit. I think the Catholics in NI want to be part of the Republic, but the Protestants want to remain in GB. Northern Ireland is a mess that nobody foresaw due to their politics, religion, separatists history (and war/terrorists history) and their border with the Republic. Scotland were duped. They were told by London that they wanted to remain in Europe thus the original referendum to stay in the UK. A few years later and here we are. Scotland and NI, however, could probably survive if they did split. NI would be absorbed into the Republic and Scotland would (assumingly due to them being on their shores) access to the oil in the North Sea. That is probably the only reason England wants to keep them due to that oil. Wales, however.....yeah, there is no way they could make it alone.
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https://www.newsweek.com/americans-react...rvative-1477076Great victory for Conservatives in UK. The citizens on the UK said no to a radical socialist progressive agenda. I do feel the US will follow suit next November. This result also help the US when Britain pulls out of the EU to set up a trade agreement with the US. This has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the UK saying no to a "radical socialist progressive agenda". If this is what you gleam from the election results then you have absolutely no clue what the British people are saying. The traditional hotbed of the Labour government, the midlands and the north HAVE, like the industrial union areas of the American midwest, flipped Conservative. However, it has nothing to do with a Socialist Progressive Agenda. It's because they bought into some make believe Britain that once existed in 1960 returning to their hamlets, towns, cities and shires. However it's an impossible thing for the Tories to provide and in the long run it will haunt them. However, they can enjoy their short term success. Meanwhile, London and the south, which were traditionally Conservative are now flipping to Labour. The biggest problem, however, is Labour are led (soon to be " were led") by an idiot and Corbyn suffered the biggest landslide in decades. A humiliating defeat. This says more about him than it does the party, however, the party will take years to recoup from this defeat. Remember, in case you didn't know....people in the UK vote for their MP within their constituency and the Party then chooses/elects its leader. Labour chose Corbyn simply because he was the leader of the party, however, it has proven to be a grave mistake. The conservatives, meanwhile may want out of Europe, but they have absolutely no plan to return the working mills and industry to the midlands or the north. Nor do they plan on returning the UK to the days of 1960. There is a reason why the conservatives call London "Singapore on the Thames". They want to model the UK to look more like Singapore, which has an open door policy for immigrants who travel to the country to work (particularly high income white collar work). So, to the chagrin of the midlands and northern people who voted for them thinking they were to "Make Britain Great (White) Again" the plan will encourage MORE immigration from all over the world. Working class Britain believed the Tories were going to bring employment to regions or protect jobs etc. but they were totally duped and lied to and they bought it hook line and sinker. No different than those who voted for Trump. He has no interest nor cares about the average working class person in middle America, however, strangely...they believe he does. Same can be said in England. The Tories do not care for the average person. But, they manipulated them enough to get their vote and it worked for the short term. History will judge them, however, on the long term and I don't think it will be particularly kind. Your post is not atypical of what most on the left believe whether it's here or anywhere else. Throw out political ideas, those ideas get pushback and might get rejected... well it can't be that reasonable people just disagree with those ideas, it HAS GOT TO BE that the people are either too stupid, easily manipulated, or just plain racists.. otherwise they would see the inherent brilliance in the plans the left has offered. This level of elitist arrogance is the reason the working class folk don't like the left and won't vote for the left because instead of trying to reach them, the left insults and demeans them, all while preaching how tolerant they are. This may come as a shock to some.... but rural/country people are a proud people and don't respond well to that. Hillary may have had absolutely wonderful plans to help rural America, best plans ever, and many might have been willing to listen to her... but when she calls my small town, my neighbors, my blue collar friends, and by association, me... deplorable and racist.. then she can go screw herself. I will vote for the lying womanizer who at least is making an effort to show me some respect... or so the thought goes. The left, around the world, has been playing the game the same way you just did for years and has taken smackdown after smackdown but absolutely refuses to admit that the problem can be, in any way, with themselves. It's just those ignorant, racist dumbarses who refuse to see our benevolent brilliance... you should call them more names until they agree with you. Good plan! Fair enough. I hear you and I take your criticism and you may well be right. In fact, you probably are. However, I don't see it as elitism and this is why.....I honestly don't believe that Boris Johnson nor Donald Trump care about the working class people of Britain or America. Boris Johnson and Donald Trump are both privileged rich elitist who went to Eton and all the right private schools. They have no clue how the 99% live their lives, let alone our personal stories, struggles or traumas just to make ends meet. How can somebody living in Trump Tower jetting and helicoptering every other week to Florida to play a round of golf truly understand what the coal miners in Kentucky are dealing with? How could he understand what a teacher who has to work 2 or 3 jobs is dealing with? The farmer in Nebraska? Etc? How does Boris have the faintest clue what a steel mill worker in Sheffield or a labourer in Leicester is dealing with on a daily basis? What I will give both of them (well, mainly their campaign marketers) credit for is knowing how to brilliantly and cleverly sell their campaign to the working people of America and Britain and to their benefit....it obviously worked. It also helped that both of them were going against very flawed candidates. Have you ever watched interviews, debates or speeches by Jeremy Corbyn? He has single handedly destroyed the Labour party with this defeat. Not all his fault, mind you, because the party chose him as their leader, however, what a disaster this election was for them. It will take years to rebuild Labour to where Tony Blair had the party. Clinton was, without a doubt, a terrible candidate, deeply flawed person intoxicated with power (no different than Trump, however) and I hear you that when she said that she insulted millions. BUT, I also believe she had cards stacked against her with deeply rooted misogyny. The misogyny was there before she said that and it continues today with the current Dem field. Warren too is facing an uphill battle with that hurdle alone. Oh, and Trump is more than a "lying womanizer"....he is a flat out sexual objectifier, harasser and abuser of women. He admitted it in broad daylight on a video tape for the world to see. There were so many other reasons not to vote for the guy, but For me, that video should have been the final nail in his political campaign for everybody. Must admit, I am amazed people still support and defend him. However, I will repeat....I hear your criticism. You wrote a fair argument and I appreciate that you gave me food for thought. I hope I do the same in return for you.
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I heard a rumor that The United Nations have voted to change the name Great Britain to just Britain. Then it’s time to start printing the Make Britain Great Again hats, for Johnsons next election.
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Typical of you. "BUt what about.....what about?' Laughable, and sad that you can't even comment on his post.
Awe. Butt hurt again? You help elect a man who calls anyone who disagrees with him names. Even a teenager, a war hero in McCain, a gold star family, yet people should stay quiet about that while people point the finger in the other direction? He has attacked American institutions like the FBI, our intelligence community, our ambassadors and the free press. Typical arch BS. Just mine. We have a difference in opinion, yet SOME on here demand their opinion is right, and anyone that disagrees is wrong. Like this post by you? The worst part here in the last 3+ years is the dems/libs doing exactly what they claim not to do: Attempting to belittle others, calling others names, being butt hurt that Hillary didn't win, demeaning, attempting to debase others, etc, ad nauseum. Plus, not even having the brains to see that 'attack mode' is solidifying others.
Thank you. You mean we've started fighting you on your own level? Fighting fire with fire? Living in a Trumpian world?
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Another thing that Americans don't realize with the European Union is the influx of Europeans has, without a doubt, created a heightened state of xenophobia. Add to it the refugee crisis from Syria/Middle East and Africa and it hit a boiling point. Nobody foresaw the extent of movement, in particular from Eastern Europe into GB, France and Germany once Eastern European countries joined the EU. Swish can confirm this on the German side. Certainly in the UK there was a backlash on the number of Polish and Romanian immigrants who moved to the UK once they joined the EU. Romania because, for decades, Romania was a very poor and in comparison to GB, France and Germany, relatively uneducated population (obviously that is changing since joining the EU). Poland, however, was different....many of the new immigrants from Poland were educated, in particular in tradesmanship and were charging less as electricians, plumbers, laborers etc. British tradespeople & laborers were all of a sudden in competition with their Polish colleagues and that created tension & xenophobia towards the masses who arrived. Add to it, that many Poles tend to send their money back to families in Poland rather than putting it into the UK and it exacerbated the situation to a boiling point.
This was one of the massive problematic issues when it came to GB voting to leave the EU/Brexit etc.
Again, Swish can certainly back me up on this from the German/continental perspective.
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Often times poor decisions are based on fear. Yet man never seems to learn that lesson and many have used this as a weapon to get people to go along with poor choices.
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Often times poor decisions are based on fear. Yet man never seems to learn that lesson and many have used this as a weapon to get people to go along with poor choices. No different here with the fear people have of refugees from Central America. Trump's vitriolic and hostile language & actions towards our southern neighbors has only exacerbated the xenophobia that already existed.
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It's interesting how he didn't address that the other side does the exact same thing. Noted. Henceforth and from this point forward, I will fully expect you to elaborate both sides of every point you make.... But since you commented.... I won't go into as much detail but the right plays the game similary but different. They use patriotism and faith to box people in... if you aren't prepared to sell out for "our side" then you hate America, you hate God, you hate Christmas, you are a socialist, you have no respect for everything this country has accomplished, hell if you get behind 90% of what they believe but won't commit the other 10%, they will call you a rino... blahblahblah... Maybe next time, I will explain my opinion on why true conservatism is all but dead in national politics.
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Maybe next time, I will explain my opinion on why true conservatism is all but dead in national politics. I'm already aware that it's dead. I'm more concerned by why others can't seem to see it and follow along blindly anyway.
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I can understand why this is very concerning for American politics. The left in this country constantly point to the EU and countries in it as the example we should follow. So it's understandable that a huge loss like this would draw big time attention.
It also tells me that the more progressive our policies get, you'll likely only see more nationalism, not less.
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I don't know. I don't think comparing what Europe considers conservative to what America considers conservative as being anywhere close to the same thing. Even though as DC pointed out, actual conservatism doesn't seem to exist in our political system anymore.
I mean let's look at healthcare as an example. Even those in Europe that are considered to be conservative there advocate national healthcare. Over here that's considered a total liberal and to some, huge left wing idea.
But I do agree with you that I see things very similar to a great degree. I believe the current far left Democrats would do more to harm the Democrats in a national election than to help them.
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I don't know. I don't think comparing what Europe considers conservative to what America considers conservative as being anywhere close to the same thing. Even though as DC pointed out, actual conservatism doesn't seem to exist in our political system anymore.
I mean let's look at healthcare as an example. Even those in Europe that are considered to be conservative there advocate national healthcare. Over here that's considered a total liberal and to some, huge left wing idea.
But I do agree with you that I see things very similar to a great degree. I believe the current far left Democrats would do more to harm the Democrats in a national election than to help them. I call BS on this line of thought! What you are saying in a nutshell is that the center and independent voters would rather have more Trump than a Bernie or Liz type reform of our social safety net... Hmmm... More Trump vs. things to help people... More Trump vs. slightly higher taxes and affordable healthcare... More Trump vs. reining in out of control corporate greed while negotiating a bigger slice for middle America... I just don't see that hurting Dems OR America. Trump is the worst POTUS ever and only his hardcore base wants to see more of this crap. He embarrasses most Americans daily. Who in their right mind would think Bernie or Liz could be worse than that. Hell, forget Liz because she's dropping like a rock while the real progressive candidate is moving back toward the top. Bernie 2020!
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Not even close. There's nothing about any moderate Democrat that in any way resembles Trump.
At least run somebody that can get independent voters motivated enough to come out and vote.
You insist on advocating running a candidate that will most likely lose. I hope you don't get your way. But if you do, don't be surprised by the results. And don't say you weren't warned.
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I don't know. I don't think comparing what Europe considers conservative to what America considers conservative as being anywhere close to the same thing. Even though as DC pointed out, actual conservatism doesn't seem to exist in our political system anymore.
I mean let's look at healthcare as an example. Even those in Europe that are considered to be conservative there advocate national healthcare. Over here that's considered a total liberal and to some, huge left wing idea.
But I do agree with you that I see things very similar to a great degree. I believe the current far left Democrats would do more to harm the Democrats in a national election than to help them. I could definitely see them try to push a far left person and get a resounding "you're not listening" voter response. I genuinely hope that does not happen but that is exactly what happened in 2016. Just like I am certain this win in the UK was dismissed and mocked. There is no need to fight Trumps nonsense with equal nonsense. Just get up there, run on Healthcare and taxing the rich. Two things even the hardest coal mining, fly over state living person can resonate with. Someone clean that can attack Trumps “Christian” persona. Cake walk. But they won’t, they will get up there are start immediately calling people racist. About how there is so much change needed, that we need to be more like X country. I would expect a full on blizzard of fake hate crimes…..to round out the leveling of the playing field which, absolutely in no way should be level. Level is a win for Trump, this dude is the fat kid on the Sea Saw and the dems are going to add sandbags to their side.
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Hillary was too far left? BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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No, Hillary had been under investigation and her name smeared for years. You keep using the same tactics and I keep pointing out the same flaws.
There are posters on this very board who truly want to vote against Trump but keep stating how they think the Democrats will make that hard to do.
The problem is you're not listening.
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Bro, he said this:
"I could definitely see them try to push a far left person and get a resounding "you're not listening" voter response. I genuinely hope that does not happen but that is exactly what happened in 2016."
IMHO that reads Hillary was too far left.
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Talk about throwing the baby out with the bath water. good lord
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lol, once again, people already planting their own seed to justify voting for trump again. we got people who were willing to vote for bernie, who claimed bernie wouldve beat trump in the general election, NOW all of a sudden talking about candidates are too far left.
i repeat, bernie wasnt too far left in 2016, but now him and warren are in 2020. thats hilarious.
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America has lost touch with what being a conservative used to be.
Anytime a party applauds a big stock market but doesn't address the elephant in the room, Debt and Deficit, then they aren't conservative.
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Bernie was too far left in 2016 and he's too far left now.
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well, i agree with that. but that wasnt what tons of trump supporters were saying.
so many people claimed they wouldve voted for bernie, but since it was hillary, they voted for trump.
well, hillary isnt running this election. so im just enjoying the new excuses now.
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But isn't that what often happens? Especially among a certain group of voters. If they don't get their way they just throw a tantrum by staying home?
Just look at the Bernie demographics to see what I mean.
The question once again must be asked. If the youth doesn't get some left wing progressive as the nominee, will they stay home?
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