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Democratic Virginia Rep. Donald McEachin suggested cutting off state funds to counties that do not comply with any gun control measures that pass in Richmond.

I recall liberals blasting Trump for pulling stuff like this. Crickets when one of their one does it.

There shouldn't be a need for the National Guard. All that needs to happen is for Officers to obey and enforce the laws on the books.

Just because you don't agree with them, doesn't make you right.

That is total fiction.

All I saw was about 200 people at most in that photo.

jc

Anyone who thinks they can win a second American Civil War
needs to look at before and after pictures of Syria.

That is what we will be dooming ourselves to.

jc

Anyone who thinks they can win a second American Civil War
needs to look at before and after pictures of Syria.

That is what we will be dooming ourselves to.

It boggles the mind, the lengths some are willing to go to to insure that school shootings and other mass shootings continue without being addressed in any serious way. True Patriotism.

I don't think any law, even if passed by the most anti gun extreme leftist socialist lawmakers or a wouldbe dictator from the right, would ever make it past constitutional challenges to the point that Americans will be ordered to surrender guns. It will just never happen.

What is much more likely is that the manufacturing and sales of certain weapons, not simple hunting guns or hand guns designed personal self defense, will be legislated out of existence.

Not sure where you saw me blame an inanimate object...

I prefer "E pluribus unum" among Americans.

It boggles the mind, the lengths some are willing to go to to insure that school shootings and other mass shootings continue without being addressed in any serious way. True Patriotism.

So all of this over the top fear mongering and BS talk about a civil war is just ridiculous and dangerous. We all have loved ones, family and friends on both sides of political issues like guns. Not one of you or US is going to place a bullet in the head of a loved one or friend over these matters and you damn sure aren't going to join a bunch of like minds that will kill your loved ones and friends on the other side unless you are just mentally ill.

Article 5 US Constitution

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.

You mean like the Left and their Open Borders and Sanctuary Cities? I agree!

I think cutting down the capacity of magazines would lower the body count. But you are correct that it certainly doesn't address the root of the problem.

If only we could somehow be there to stop people when they break. But then that isn't going to happen either. People are people and you'll always find a segment of our society that looks at violence as a means to solve problems they feel worthy of such actions.

I mean in this thread alone you see people who use what one could consider the threat of or possibility of civil war. I mean how far has our society lowered itself to when people concentrate on one part of the constitution to say, "I'll take guns into the streets and start a war with you", while our politicians can trample other parts of the constitution and those very same people don't even care?

What do you mean? Gun ownership and mass shootings do NOT go hand in hand. 99% of all gun owners will never shoot a human being in their lifetime. More laws and restrictions on guns are not going to change anything. It seems many have forgotten who their adversary is:

"Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: - 1 Peter 5:8

Nothing in life is guaranteed. The Bible tells you to love God and live each day as its your last because you could be devoured by the world(which is ruled by Satan) at any time be it your 5 years old or 90 years old. We people are always be hunted by him, he is the lion and we are the sheep. He has subtle ways of nudging people who are weak spiritually and don't have a close connection to the Lord into doing evil things. This what he does, its what he has always done to mankind since the beginning, even as way back as Adam and Eve nudging them to eat the apple(which was forbidden). This is not going to change until the end of time. Love the Lord, Pray daily, and what will be will be, no one going to change it. It sucks that evil acts like this happen, we just gotta have faith and take comfort in knowing we will inherit the kingdom of heaven thorough Jesus.

First, quoting the bible in a debate with me is not going to get you anywhere. I find it laughable. Second, I didn't say anything about gun ownership in that quote, I said basically it baffles me how hard some will fight for no changes to hinder doing something or anything to stop or reduce the horrible mass shootings. Mostly because they fear the might lose recreational guns if they attempt to resolve it.




You do realize during the American Revolution that brothers killed each other? Some sides with the rebels, others with the redcoats and they fought and often killed one another. You also know during the Civil War many families fought and killed one another. Granted I personally would never do that to my family regardless or disagreement, there are many who don't share those same views, its largely an unknown. War (Which is what a Civil War is) makes people do things they normally wouldn't do due to the stress and constant duress of the battlefield having effects on someones mind.

Of course I know this, but today, over proposed gun control laws, there is no war, there is only rhetoric threatening a civil war by idiots.

Now I'd like to hear from anyone on the board that is on this ridiculous side of 'no change is acceptable because I will die to protect my gun rights'... I want them to step up and say that they would put a bullet in a loved ones head on the other side to avoid change... I'll wait.

We don't have to have any Civil War though. the Constitution has a little known remedy built in to it in the cases of such dire need and i quote:



Note the underlined part. That means that two thirds of the States Legislatures can vote to call a Constitutional Convention, at which point each state legislature would pick two delegates to send to the Constitutional Convention.(This is how the colonies did it back in the day)

They can then introduce Constitutional Amendments, and the Convention will vote on those amendments and then those approved will be sent to the States Legislatures to vote on, if two thirds of the states legislatures vote to approve them, then they become law right then and there. There isn't a damn thing The President, or Congress, can do about it either. A Convention started by two thirds of the states is just as legal introducing and voting on amendments to send to the states as Congress is.

This little known fail safe was put in to avoid whats coming in the next few decades if we do nothing. The 1st Civil War couldn't be resolved this way because 13 states decided to flatout succeed from the union. However, this remedy most certainly will work for the kind of discontent you are seeing brewing today.

I'll be very surprised if we don't see a Constitutional Convention sometime in the next 10-15 years. Things like Terms limits on Congress, 10-15 year limits on Supreme Court and Federal Court Judges, balanced budget, and other issues need to be addressed and our Congress refuses to do so, hence they will leave the States and the people very little choice.

The same group that formed Justice Democrats formed a group called Wolf Pac that has been fighting to make a constitutional convention a reality, they have like 27 state legislatures signed on supporting it the last I heard. But it's a democrat thing so the GOPers don't want it. So again, nothing I didn't know, nothing I think we'll see anytime soon. Still doesn't answer or remedy the issue with idiots like these spewing rhetoric about revolt over guns.

Mine feels more prescriptive. Yours randomly makes me think of Trump as Sauron (with orange "Troll" hair).

"From many, one" seems kind of lost with the division the nation is currently experiencing.