DawgTalkers.net Forums The Archives 2019 NFL Season Looking Back: Browns 24 Cardinals 38 Post game.

So what took you so long?

Nothing is going to be done prior to season's end. The Browns are going to get throttled next week at home and sent off the field to a chorus of BOOs (if any Browns fans are actually in the stands at the end of the game). That chorus should ring loud and clear to Haslam and Dorsey.

I do not expect the Browns to win another game and frankly it doesn't really matter at this point.

Man, this game sucked, because we had something to play for ..... and we got wiped out.

I dunno what to think.

Is it personnel? Is it coaching? Is it a little of both?

The Rams also had something to play for ...... and they got wiped out by a very ordinary Dallas team.

I want Freddie to come back, but I also was a "senior assistant" added, perhaps brought in as associate head coach.

I am very particular about men.

Agreed. This team has quit. Heck, they quit before the 2nd Pittsburgh game where if they won they would have been in the drivers seat for a wild card. This is on the coaches pure and simple. It doesn't matter if we win another game this season. If we don't we will have a higher draft pick which, of course, we will probably mess up. Ridiculous.

I have felt for a while that this team doesnt believe in the coaches

I feel the players have tried to be good teammates and not say anything and play hard.

But you could totally tell by their body language today, that the team is lost.

FK is not a smart coach.
I hate firing a coach every year or three, but he’s a dumbass. We should have called timeouts on D at end of first half to preserve the clock and maybe get a chance to at least kick a field goal.

Nope, we did not.

His game-management skills are embarrassing, now the players are calling him on it.

I wanted to keep GW btw.

The sense of the team quitting is as bad as I can recall

Even Hue's players didn't quit like this. The last time I remember something this bad was during the end of Chud's season.

I dont feel they are quitting. I feel they feel defeated and have lost confidence in the coaches.

They still try hard, but they know, and everybody knows, the schemes are bad.

Baltimore will put 50 on us. After all the talk when we beat them, they will come ready to put the beatdown on these underachievers. The defense without Garrett is horrible. His misjudgement hurt this team majorly.

We beat the Steelers, and still lost. That is the story of this whole year.

Ditto that, lamp. It doesn't seem to me that, at least at this point, that Freddie is HC material...

would you rather hear this, or Shurmur blather on about how "Well, we battled today..."

fk says that too, only he says "competed"

This team is so S-O-F-T. There are only 2 players who I would consider tough, hard-nosed football players. Chubb and Hunt. Everyone else, soft as the day is long. DBs are absolutely the softest. Greedy Williams, please.

I'm just glad we didn't let a single game go by where we don't try that killer shovel pass behind the line of scrimmage in a crucial situation, because that never works, except for the one freaking time that it did somehow work LAST YEAR.

The wheels are off ...

I now truely believe Bob Wylie's comments that Freddie took the credit for everyone's work last year. Only the players know the truth and thier heart shows thier commitment to thier coach. I think fat Freddie is BS artist that Bs'ed his way into a headcoaching job and now we see the results.

Our DBs are among the worst I’ve witnessed ... Greedy is garbage, Ward is soft, and the others are traffic cones

Ward was a beast last year under GW, maybe too much he was always in concussion protocol. This year he is just another guy.

Browns are gonna brown.

Between Jarvis’ outburst, OBJ’s body language, Baker’s regression, our defense’s effort .. how in the HECK can we keep this staff?

Yes, but it doesn’t always have to be the same brown I brown, after a Mexican restaurant dinner.

At least it’s over,

1-31 was easier

No doubt you are the know it all.

What is the status of Hospital Ward?


I saw him walking off the field with a towel over his head. I had no volume. What is his problem this time?

Something with an ankle, but he was back for the second half.

I sincerely hope this isn't true, but the results this season make me wonder...

He played the entire second half after heading to the locker room before half for issue with his ankle.

Ok.....good deal. I was thinking it was later in the game.

I don't believe that I have ever felt so worn down and disillusioned in any season...

Dallas had something to play for, too, with the Eagles winning earlier.

The Browns showed up like they had absolutely nothing to play for. I guess the defense took Syeve Wilkes' comments to heart when he said this week's game against Arizona was "just another game."

If Freddie needs a babysitter to coach him through the year, he's not the guy. A special assistant coach isn't going to make the players respect him.

Freddie was a gamble that blew up in Dorsey's face. Walk away from the table, don't keep going to the ATM hoping the jackpot is bound to happen.

It's wishful and irrational thinking.

yeah, the expectations and hope basically just made this all more difficult to handle

j/c...

That......man.

They look completely dejected.

Ugh

Browns fans since 1999.