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show some freaking pride this sunday?

or do we roll over and die?

i know our freaking running backs are gonna show up. i know our o line is gonna show up. will our defense? will our WR's? will bake?

hell, will freddie?

we dont even have to win. just show some pride and fight. thats all i want to see from this team. max effort from everyone.


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I expect us to roll over and die.

I have an inkling this roster wants Freddie gone.

In a game last week, they could have sealed his job for next year - after it was reported he was coming back - it seemed the players gave up on him when the going got tough.

Call it a year folks, on to the draft.

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I think will is right. I have a feeling this roster wants Freddie canned and have actively quit on him. Wouldn't be surprised if we lose by 50.

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Players have packed it in. Freddie is toast and the players know it. Nothing to play for, sadly.

This game is going to be brutal. Baltimore trying to secure the #1 seed.

I don't see anyway they'll be able to stop Lamar. Hell, they couldn't stop Lamar-lite last week.

Prediction: RG III throws for a 4th Qtr TD for good measure.

Should be interesting up at the stadium this Sunday. My brother is flying in town for Christmas and to go to the game with me. Before the season started we both had thoughts of how this game could be flexed to Saturday night and the division crown could be on the line. Ah, the good times.

Baltimore: 48

Browns: 13

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come on dont do this to me, guys. somebody has got to give us hope.


“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”

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This seems like a game where if we show up we lose by 7, and if we don't, we lose by 30.

Hey, any given Sunday right. The Browns did beat Baltimore pretty soundly in their house earlier in the season (we call this an outlier.)

For any gambling folks around here, Baltimore -7 is about as solid of a line as you're ever going to get.

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It's they ..not we...

They play the game...and We watch the crap..

They won't win ... and We be pissed

They (some) don't like Freddie..We (most) don't like Freddie.

They gave us a disappointed season... We be tired of them seasons...

They matter because they wear Brown and Orange...We matter because We be the best damn fans in the land...

They be ready for off season... We be talking Draft soon.

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I thought we rolled over and died last week.

The real question now is, on our way back from the dead, are we planning on the resurrection thing or the zombie thing?


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This is going to be a beat down. I truly am starting to believe the players have abandon Kitchens.


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I don't know if they'll lay down or not, but if they do mail it in Sunday I just hope Dorsey is watching and taking down names. Because whether Kitchens returns or not, I don't want the guys who quit to come back next year. Players might think they're undermining Freddie by dogging it, but in reality they should know that they are playing for their jobs.

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The defense lacks the horses to beat them like we did. No Garrett, o Vernon.... we can't contain AND push the edges of the pocket while not losing gap discipline. We saw it all game long in Arizona. This week will be a repeat.

Add in that for some reason our CBs, who were both ballhawking in college, are being coached to not play the ball, but the receiver now, and we are toast.


Browns is the Browns

... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.

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Stupid thread title.............


To be or not to be. That is the question.

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More stupid that you always like your own posts... Your from Alabama ? you related to Freddie ?

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Originally Posted By: Swish
come on dont do this to me, guys. somebody has got to give us hope.


About all I can muster is we’re tied going in to half time. Unfortunately what will likely happen as we’ve seen before is the Ravens will go up by 1 TD and our guys will act like the game is over.

Sorry bro. Apathy has set in.

Plus, I somehow made it to my Championship Game in my first ever fantasy league and Lamar is my QB so....

I’m not rooting against the Browns but aside from Chubb and a couple other guys, I’m not interested frown


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Baltimore were gashed by our run game last time. This time they will stack the box and force Baker to throw as they know he is struggling and OBJ's threat status has been dramatically reduced as BM never sees him even when he is open.

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MAN F THAT. no way does this team roll over. hell no!


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Don't know if we roll over but we getting killed this weekend.... Baltimore is rolling and wants the #1 seed.... hope we show some signs of life.....


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This is going to be a beatdown.

Who would have thought that 10 short weeks ago when we destroyed them in their house and had the lead in the division?


LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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I expect the Browns to show up in the 1st quarter.. and then fall apart and die.


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Originally Posted By: Rishuz
This is going to be a beatdown.

Who would have thought that 10 short weeks ago when we destroyed them in their house and had the lead in the division?


No doubt. The Ravens have not lost since then and we've spiraled out of control. Speaks to the culture.

The Browns thought they had arrived and crowned themselves after that win (and clearly crowned themselves before the season, too). And, the two dopes on Cleveland Browns Daily (Zegura and Bishop) were leading the charge. Imagine running a perennial losing franchise and allowing your team owned radio network to carry on like that as though you've made it. Embarrassing.

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well its a team owned propaganda outlet. they're technically doing their jobs perfectly.


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well its a team owned propaganda outlet. they're technically doing their jobs perfectly.


The best call to Cleveland Browns Daily (back when they actually took calls), a guy called in and said, "I've heard less propaganda on a North Korean radio station compared to what you guys."

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well its a team owned propaganda outlet. they're technically doing their jobs perfectly.


Yeah, they never really pretend to be unbiased. They are employees, and are there to present as positive an outlooK on the team as is possible.


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Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan
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well its a team owned propaganda outlet. they're technically doing their jobs perfectly.


Yeah, they never really pretend to be unbiased. They are employees, and are there to present as positive an outlooK on the team as is possible.


I certainly don’t begrudge them for it either. But I think it is telling when even they are on the verge of saying the same things we are.


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Well, the clever thing for Baltimore to do is not to get Freddie fired...

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I think we saw our answer in the desert ... this team has no heart and wants the HC gone (or wants themselves to be gone).


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We shock the world and Freddie saves his job.


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We shock the world and Freddie saves his job.


That's simply not happening. It will take an offseason to figure out the Baltimore O. They are steamrolling the dregs of the league which the Browbs are. Plus the team has quit and knows they will have another coach next season.

There's nothing to play for.


LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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Their jobs.

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If we show the same run D as we saw in Zona...forget about it!!

Love our Run game...

Hate our West Coast Offense...seems all routes are 5-7 yarders???


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Dude I don’t know what’s going on. The play calling is trash, and I honestly don’t think Freddie knows the entire playbook himself.


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Yeah I just don't see what everyone else sees......that the players quit.....I did not see that. I saw guys I've never even heard of playing on defense and an offense with an identity crisis.

Did not see all of this quitting everyone keeps talking about last week.

This week we might see some of that, but tbd.

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The play calling is trash, and I honestly don’t think Freddie knows the entire playbook himself.


Every time I see him on the sideline holding that laminated play sheet I think of a Waffle House menu, LOL. He should have a thought bubble that says "I'll have smothered and covered - wait, wait - what does 'scattered' mean?".

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Do we dare to switch iy up? Put the backup in for a few series? Finding a spark is wasted on our deadwood.

I will watch and root 'em every game, but somebody has to carry FK which is no small feat, and play some defense for a change. Crappy cornerbacks especially.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
come on dont do this to me, guys. somebody has got to give us hope.
The hope will come in two weeks when Fred is relieved of duties.

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Originally Posted By: Dave
I don't know if they'll lay down or not, but if they do mail it in Sunday I just hope Dorsey is watching and taking down names. Because whether Kitchens returns or not, I don't want the guys who quit to come back next year. Players might think they're undermining Freddie by dogging it, but in reality they should know that they are playing for their jobs.
That's all fine and dandy on a message board and for the 3rd and 4th stringers, but in real life, do you think Odell has to worry about getting on a team? Do you think Jarvis does? guys like Larry and Randall? there will always be a place on a roster for a guy that has talent.

Dogging it or not.

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Originally Posted By: BpG
Yeah I just don't see what everyone else sees......that the players quit.....I did not see that. I saw guys I've never even heard of playing on defense and an offense with an identity crisis.

Did not see all of this quitting everyone keeps talking about last week.

This week we might see some of that, but tbd.
Kareem Hunt, someone who saw the game a little closer than you or I - disagrees.

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I don't know if they'll lay down or not, but if they do mail it in Sunday I just hope Dorsey is watching and taking down names. Because whether Kitchens returns or not, I don't want the guys who quit to come back next year. Players might think they're undermining Freddie by dogging it, but in reality they should know that they are playing for their jobs.
That's all fine and dandy on a message board and for the 3rd and 4th stringers, but in real life, do you think Odell has to worry about getting on a team? Do you think Jarvis does? guys like Larry and Randall? there will always be a place on a roster for a guy that has talent.

Dogging it or not.



Even a guy who only posts on a message board knows that unless the talk of "changing the culture" is only lip service, then the guys who do not give full effort have to be weeded out. Nobody is saying they won't play elsewhere, just that we will never win as an organization if there are as many quitters as Hunt indicated allowed to stay here. Effort is the bare minimum we need to be able to expect from our players.

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The only thing I can think of is Bmore comes out sleeping and our offense gets rolling. Our scripted plays march us down the field and our defense gets hot catching a Bmore offense that thinks (understandably) that they can walk through this game.

If we're up a couple scores at halftime, forcing them to air it out a bunch I could see us in position to win.

I'd put the chance of that happening around the same as us making the playoffs.


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