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Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz declared a “failure” by the entire “chain of command” involved in the FBI’s initial Trump-Russia investigation, in blistering testimony Wednesday that called out “basic and fundamental errors” at the bureau while stressing that his newly released report on the probe does not "vindicate" anyone.

Oh good one.

I've explained a bunch of things to you and you Feign ignorance or say you don't care. So I'll not explain what it is you aren't understanding.

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They all understand what Putin is doing. Morally treasonous..all of them.

So, you're saying false accusations, paid for by a political foe, is reason enough to get a fisa warrant?

How it started: The report began after a request from Trump's former attorney general. It has been in the works since March 2018. At the time, the inspector general's office said it launched the review after requests from then-attorney general Jeff Sessions and members of Congress.

Conspiracy theories debunked: The report essentially rebuts more than two years of talking points by Trump and Republicans about a deep-state effort to derail his campaign. There were no FBI spies planted in Trump Tower, for instance. And the famed dossier by ex-British spy Christopher Steele was not the reason the investigation was launched, the IG report states. Inspector general Michael Horowitz specifically says that Peter Strzok, a former senior counterintelligence officer, and Lisa Page, a former FBI attorney, whom Trump has repeatedly vilified and mocked in crude ways, did not act out of bias or unduly influence the start of the investigation.

I disagree. I think most know Trump is morally rotten. I think most know he has pissed all over our institutions and norms - I think some even know he is doing the same to the constitution..... I don't think many Trump supporters if any believe anything about the Putin/Russia "fix" and I don't know that I do either, other than Trump might be appeasing Putin to line his pockets when he is out of office.

It appears you wish to ignore the facts found in the investigation and look for what you wish to see elsewhere.





https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/inspector-general-report-russia-investigation/index.html#

Let's be quite clear here. Your conspiracy theories have been debunked.

Still no hamma..... none. No deep state. No convictions or prosecution for Comey, McCabe, Strzok .... plenty of verification that there were Pro Trump texts and agents as well .... A nothingburger. The bigger story is how the POS Barr is trying to create a story out of nothing when he didn't like the findings.... now THERE'S your current deep state and story.

So, Comey admits he did wrong, when will you admit you are wrong?

Maybe Durham's Criminal investigation and charges will convince you.

it used to be, "wait for the IG report", that flamed out.

Before Trump was sworn into office, a leaked and unverified 35-page dossier compiled by former British spy Christopher Steele alleged the Trump campaign colluded with Russia to defeat Clinton in 2016 presidential election. It later became one of the starting points of Robert Mueller’s investigation.

Comey said the so-called “Steele dossier” was "not a huge part of the presentation to the court," but Wallace pointed out that according to the inspector general’s report, it played a central role in establishing probable cause for an investigation and FISA warrants.

“In fact, he says, if it hadn't been for the Steele dossier, the FBI probably would haven't even submitted a FISA application,” Wallace said, referring to Horowitz.

“I’m not sure he and I are saying different things,” Comey responded. “What his report says is that the FBI thought it was a close call until they got the Steele report, put that additional information in and that tipped it over to be probable cause. It’s a long FISA application and includes Steele material and a lot of other things. I don’t think we’re saying different things.”

Fake News, my headline is from today!

Only your Liberal Media is trying to move on and forget this debacle.

How Old Claims Compare to IG Report

On Dec. 9, the Department of Justice’s Office of the Inspector General released its report on the FBI’s counterintelligence investigation into whether individuals associated with the Trump campaign were coordinating with Russia’s interference in the 2016 election. That report contradicts some of the claims the president, and other Republicans, have made over the years about the investigation, but it also supports at least one assertion.

Republicans, including President Donald Trump, have claimed that the FBI’s Russia investigation was sparked by a dossier compiled by former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele. But the IG report said that “Steele’s reports played no role in the Crossfire Hurricane opening.”

rump repeatedly has accused the FBI of illegally spying on his campaign. But the IG report “found no evidence that the FBI placed any” confidential sources or undercover agents in the Trump campaign or tasked any such sources “to report on the Trump campaign.”
Trump has accused the FBI of obtaining a surveillance warrant of former campaign aide Carter Page under false pretenses. The IG report didn’t find “intentional misconduct,” but it did find at least 17 “significant inaccuracies and omissions” in court applications for Page’s warrant.

The IG report also debunked Trump’s claims that the investigation was motivated by political bias on the part of FBI staff. The report found no “documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivation” influenced the opening of the investigation or decision-making during it.

The report by the DOJ inspector general, Michael E. Horowitz, examined the origins of the FBI investigation, the bureau’s relationship with former British intelligence office Christopher Steele and four Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act applications for surveillance of Page, among other aspects of the investigation. A press release on the report said the inspector general “examined more than one million documents that were in the DOJ’s and FBI’s possession and conducted over 170 interviews involving more than 100 witnesses.”

Origins of the Investigation

Several Republicans, including the president, have claimed that the FBI’s investigation — called Crossfire Hurricane — was “based on,” “started” by or “precipitated by” a dossier compiled by former British intelligence officer Steele. [b]But the IG report said it “determined that Steele’s reports played no role in the Crossfire Hurricane opening.” The FBI investigation, the report said, was launched based on information from a “Friendly Foreign Government” about George Papadopoulos, a Trump campaign foreign policy adviser, claiming the Russians had damaging information on Hillary Clinton.

In March 2018, Trump tweeted that the special counsel investigation of whether Trump campaign officials coordinated with Russia’s interference in the 2016 election “was based on fraudulent activities and a Fake Dossier paid for by Crooked Hillary and the DNC.”

Other Republicans echoed that talking point in an effort to paint the origins of the investigation as politically motivated. For instance, Rep. John Ratcliffe said earlier this year: “That this was a fake, phony dossier that started all of this, funded by the Democrats.” Jay Sekulow, an attorney for the president, said: “The whole impetus upon which this inquiry engaged, where it came out of, was this dossier, this counterintelligence investigation regarding collusion.”

And the chair of the Republican National Committee, Ronna McDaniel, also claimed the investigation “was precipitated by this fake dossier paid for by the Hillary Clinton and the DNC.”

Even at the time of those statements, as we’ve written, we knew that a Jan. 18, 2018, House Republican intelligence committee memo said it was information about Papadopoulos that sparked the FBI counterintelligence probe in July 2016. But now, the inspector general’s report, reiterated that finding.

The “dossier” is a series of memos compiled by Steele on supposed contacts between Russian officials and members of the Trump campaign. It alleged the Russian government had compromising information on then-presidential candidate Trump. Steele was hired by the research firm Fusion GPS, which had been hired by a law firm representing Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign and the Democratic National Committee.

Papadopoulos had contacts with Russian intermediaries during the campaign, according to the Justice Department, and later pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI. Papadopoulos, when he was a campaign adviser, met with a professor with connections to Russian government officials who told him “about the Russians possessing ‘dirt’ on then-candidate Hillary Clinton in the form of ‘thousands of emails,’” and he tried to arrange a meeting between the Russian government and the campaign, the Justice Department’s statement of the offense said.

The IG report said the FBI launched its investigation after Papadopoulos told a “Friendly Foreign Government” (an Australian diplomat in London, according to the New York Times) that the campaign had received information about Russia having dirt on Clinton.

IG report: As we describe in Chapter Three, the FBI opened Crossfire Hurricane on July 31, 2016, just days after its receipt of information from a Friendly Foreign Government (FFG) reporting that, in May 2016, during a meeting with the FFG, then Trump campaign foreign policy advisor George Papadopoulos “suggested the Trump team had received some kind of suggestion from Russia that it could assist this process with the anonymous release of information during the campaign that would be damaging to Mrs. Clinton (and President Obama).” The FBI Electronic Communication (EC) opening the Crossfire Hurricane investigation stated that, based on the FFG information, “this investigation is being opened to determine whether individual(s) associated with the Trump campaign are witting of and/or coordinating activities with the Government of Russia.”

The IG report said no other information was “relied upon to predicate the opening of the Crossfire Hurricane investigation.” However, FBI officials at the time “had reason to believe that Russia may have been connected to the Wikileaks disclosures that occurred earlier in July 2016,” and they were “aware of information regarding Russia’s efforts to interfere with the 2016 U.S. elections.”

The Steele dossier, though, played “no role” in the opening of the investigation.

IG report: These officials, though, did not become aware of Steele’s election reporting until weeks later and we therefore determined that Steele’s reports played no role in the Crossfire Hurricane opening.

After an “initial analysis of links between Trump campaign members and Russia,” the Crossfire Hurricane team opened four individual cases in August 2016 — on Trump campaign associates Papadopoulos, Carter Page, Paul Manafort and Michael Flynn.

The inspector general’s office said it was concerned that Department of Justice guidelines didn’t include a provision requiring a DOJ consultation before launching an investigation involving a presidential candidate. But the IG concluded that the information on Papadopoulos, provided by a trusted friendly government, “was sufficient to predicate the investigation” and indicated that either a crime or national security threat may have occured.

“This information provided the FBI with an articulable factual basis that, if true, reasonably indicated activity constituting either a federal crime or a threat to national security, or both, may have occurred or may be occurring,” the report said.

https://www.factcheck.org/2019/12/how-old-claims-compare-to-ig-report/

There's more to the article of you would like to read it. But what you keep trying to insinuate has been debunked and proven false. Three out of the four men investigated have been proven guilty in a court of law. The actual Russian investigation was actually started BEFORE the Steele dossier was even known about.

And you accuse me of bias? Just stop arch. Claiming this investigation was started based on the Steele dossier has been proven to be a lie.

Trump's claim that the FBI was spying on his campaign has been proven to be a lie. Even the Republican cronies have stopped spreading these lies. Isn't it time you do the same and quit trying to spread shade on those telling the truth?

Bias? Yes, you certainly have it.

was talking trash about his opponents background in a racist comment.

Fake News, my headline is from today!

Only your Liberal Media is trying to move on and forget this debacle.

For someone who claims we didn't need an IG Report thread you sure didn't pay any attention to it.