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Well, we didn’t roll over.....but we still got smacked hard for our last home game of the season.

Our defense tried. Especially the 1st half, they tried their asses off.

But man.....our offense is so pathetic. Disorganized, still getting penalized, and so many other things.

Baker mayfield....not clutch. Again, passes sailing high and wide. Being thrown behind receivers. However, he also had 3-4 drops from receivers, two I think from Harris. But mayfield could’ve easily had 2 more picks to go with his 1.

We didn’t commit to the run yet again as a team. Chubb had 45 yards. As a team we rushed for 49.

THREE DIFFERENT PLAYERS for the ravens had more than us, and Lamar by himself had over 100.

Freddie needs to go.

So it’s a lump of coal again this year...

More questions than answers going into next season.

Haslam needs to hire manning as a consultant and make baker sit with him all offseason. 8-5 working on reading defense per/post snap. How to use his eyes and footwork. Spending whole summer breaking down tape. If baker refuses, draft one

This was my thought too

Since we’re just going to have another losing season, it’s time to jettison the dead weight for this season.

At least I won’t have to hear from Freddie about he’s just going 1- 0 next week.

Mayfield needs to improve yes, but that won't happen under these coaches, our OL needs to be improved through the draft and FA, and I hope the new coaches figure out that Chubb is our best Offensive weapon which in turn will open the passing game for Baker and our WR's ...

I agree with this.

I thought Baker had said something about changing his offseason a couple weeks back. But what I think he said was that they need to treat OTAs importantly but kind of shut down the thought he needed to do more on his own. I don't think there is a work ethic issue with Baker but I'm not comfortable he's going to put in the work or knows what work to put in.

Penalties, showboating with watches and shoes, sidelined bickering etc. and so on.
This thing is a big, smelly mess! An unmitigated disaster all the way around

I don't know what they do. Heck, I'm close to not caring what they do. I dont think status quo will cut it going into next season. Saw NOTHING to indicate this staff figured ANYTHING out all season.

I'll just throw up my hands, wish all a Merry, SAFE Christmas and hope someone knows what ails this franchise.

Their lack of relying on Chubb as their primary weapon has been apalling all year. How an NFL head coach doesn't recognize that while fans do is beyond me.

I don't think Freddie has lost the team. We were in the lead with a taped together DL.

In the end, Baltimore's offensive talent was too much.

Our offense needs cleaned up. Our short yardage running game isn't good. It kills us in the redzone. I like Tretter, but he's been injured a lot. OTs and TEs not great blocking on the edges.

More near misses such as the pass off Harris' fingertips.

We need more precision. I don't think changing things will help with that.

I mean damn guys.....this was the 2nd week where all the help we needed to get into the playoffs happened. The Steelers lost, the colts won, and the titans are down by 10.

But once again, OUR team can’t take care of business.

Man......I was born in 87. I’m tired of highlighting history of his team I wasn’t even apart of. Trying to get my kids to watch browns games but they hate it cause we always lose. Even the bengals had a run where dalton was taking them to the playoffs like 5 years in a row.

This crap blows.

Freddie just doesn't inspire me. Up with a buck and change left in the half, Ravens out of timeouts and you dial up three pass plays that fall incomplete.
I know you have to execute, but man. . .

When you want to run Chubb at the goalline, you get no blocks, you stupidly go for two and you don't catch. Harbaugh figures Wilks out, Wilks just wilts. Odell needs told where to line up, he yells at Freddie on the sidelines, Jarvis too . . .

At least my wife was baking Christmas cookies and I got to taste test quite a few!

Merry Christmas to all!

Baker had so much success last year that it is hard not to think he got cocky in the off season. Hopefully, this has humbled him. He can still play like he did. I think.

Discipline falls right in Freddies lap

Fire Freddie. He’s clueless on offense. We need an o-line. We drastically need some team/player discipline. The loss of MG really killed our D. Worst penalized team in the league.

I like what one of the commentators questioning why a team with the leagues leading rusher is (now) 6-9.

I’m not hopeful against theBungles.

And the jury is still out for me on Baker. His height has been a huge disadvantage this year.

It was watchable until 2min left in half and Freddies tries the trick play on 3rd and 1...disaster unsued following that...it is just mind numbing to watch.

Ravens receivers open by five or more yards on many plays. How does that happen? Is our defensive schema that bad or our player so dumb they can't recognize what is going on? In either case the defense still lacks talent and coaching...not obvious what they are trying to do.

And I am soooo sick and tired of our after play antics by OBJ. Catch the ball, hand it to the ref, and ACT LIKE YOU HAVE DONE IT BEFORE! That crap by OBJ on Ravens sideline was so bush league...and it hurts the team when it undoes a big play.

Kind of done with Fred....but not my call.

The Ravens are a 12-2 team that steamrolled most teams. We were within one score in the 4th (well, if we had kicked the PAT). One stop after our 15th point, who knows.

The defense played well, but not well enough.

J/C

Are we gonna talk about the game or just bitch?

Our D did as much as it could, but when you’re relying on backups on DL against a team like that, you likely get beat.

and the Baker-bashing for the most part is unwarranted. Overall he was pretty solid, was under duress too often but delivered strikes when he could plant and deliver.

I agree that he has to treat this off-season in a mindset of working like hell on his weaknesses.

Lamar is amazing and I hate him for it.

Seibert missed another PA. You usually end up chasing that one point the whole game.

Can we not cover tight ends? Why are they running free so often? Is it because we were focussed on stopping the run today? If so, understandable. I guess.

The game changed in that awful last two minutes of the first half. That was ugly and embarrassing.

frankly, we got beat by a better team.

Don't know what game you were watching but Baker was not solid.

Don’t agree and I’m not going to argue about it with you.

Baker got pressured a bit, but he wasn’t even sacked today.

More than ‘a bit’, swish. He wasn’t engulfed all the time, but was consistently harassed imo.

Some mechanical flaw is causing him to throw high...alot!

Bottom line is no matter what at this point we have a worse record than last year, after supposedly adding a whole lot of assets to the team. Someone has to be held accountable. Can't really blame it on injuries either..This was one of the healthiest seasons we've had, particularly on offense

With some new players, new coaches and no expectations we can start fresh next year and hopefully do better. This season has been a mess since game one and isn't any better after game 15. On the postgame show Phil Simms was comparing Baltimore to us and said nonsense come out of Cleveland every week. I'm inclined to agree.

How about Greg Roman as HC?

That makes sense so we won't hire him.

The end of the first half epitomized our poor season. Bad management, a folding defense, bad play calling, etc

One more loss and we get a new HC

The men at the bar were very fun.

More fun than watching crappy Browns football.

Let's start on a better foot next season.

Team performed way below it's potential all season. They were Undisciplined, committed too many stupid penalties, and too many bad coaching decisions ruined what should have been a playoff season. Just one more game then hopefully Kitchens will be done! Dorsey did a great job regarding player personnel but his biggest mistake was promoting Kitchens to HC. Something that didn't need to be done.

I said the same thing a couple weeks or so ago.What he's done with Lamar is exceptional and I'd love to see what he could do to help Baker reach his potential plus it could also help us by taking him away from Lamar and Baltimore

I think a team that many considered a legitimate SB contender before the season not making the playoffs, or not even having a winning record, is enough to get a new HC.

I’d be okay with Roman

-Sheldon Richardson was flat out dumb today...seemed like he wanted to get kicked out...He was doing it multiple times today...yet none of our leaders or coaches told him to knock it off? ...just dumb

-Did obi play? didn't hear his name called one time

-Our DES whom were forced to start, belong on the practice squad

-Scho looked off beat, slow reacting and often near invisible today

-Taki does not belong seeing the field, I said it when we drafted him...He looks lost in all sorts. Mack Wilson plays with great energy, not sure if the defense is allowing him to "lurk" or if that's part of his zone...but I notice it a lot.

-Randall is not happy, and I could of sworn he gave up before the half.

-S Tierre Thomas blows

-Greedy actually tackled very well mostly today.

-TE's dropped way too many easy balls today...why are we still holding Njoku back? He drops passes too...but least he stretched the D some.

-Baker threw some awful passes, lucky he didn't have 3 interceptions today. Also threw some nice ropes down the field too. His whole setup delivery mechanics are awful, he is playing backyard football and no coaching has stepped up and improved on it.

-Wyatt Teller struggles a lot, Hubbard didn't seem as bad as usual. Greg Robinson stinks as usual, wiffs on blocks too much and moves like a RG.

-OBJ...still doesn't know he is supposed to line up, saw at least twice Baker having to take time away from his snap to redirect him where to go....smh

-Hunt looks to be a better receiver than OBJ...

-Ratley doesn't belong on the field

-Freddie...Man, I don't see logic in firing a coach after one year, but I do this year. Just watched his interview, he has no idea what's going on on his own sidelines with his own players??? That's uncalled for...I won't even get to how awful his plays and formations are set...the lack of the players still not being on the same page, and the lack of discipline on this entire team. I truly believe Freddie Kitchens would coach the NE Patriots to 5 wins max...This guy just has no idea on what he is doing.

-Can we please open the draft talk link

Late lining up on offense all year.

including on KEY plays

I rarely agree with anyone 100 percent in football posts, but the last couple of weeks when I’ve read your posts on the team, I’m like, yeah, no reason for me to post because this is spot on.

This is another one of those times.

I’m only surprised at the people who are still making excuses for this team. This team has shown no improvement, no discipline, and no reason to believe that continuity would be a good thing.

Agreed, it’s counterproductive to keep FK past next Sunday. It simply isnt working