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No Shenanigans Joe is doing his best to help Bloomy...

Democratic presidential contender Joe Biden on Thursday called a man in Iowa a “damn liar” and “fat” and “too old to vote for me” after the man accused Biden of getting his son Hunter a job with a Ukrainian gas company.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/05/biden-ca...accusation.html

Link?

I love how he said "no one has said that and no one can prove that"

lol.

So I wonder if those upset that trump mocks people will have an issue with Biden mocking this man?

That was amazing! I might have to rethink Biden now.

Well it takes an idiot to beat an idiot and the Dems have their fair share of idiots too.

Hopefully they won't mirror the GOP and nominate one.

If President Trump had said it the snowflakes would be howling, FOWL MOUTHED, FAT SHAMING, ELDER ABUSING NAZI!!!

But all we get is he is an idiot like GOP idiots.

Oh the humanity! The difference is that Biden is not a complete tool every second of every day.

No. Not Humanity, Hypocrisy.

Are we really going to get a 2020 Clowns part 5 thread?

Bahahahhaahhaahhaahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...

I keep telling you my friend, you are a sharp guy with something on the ball. Your best opportunity is with the Republican party. It's the party of opportunity.

The Dems have kept people of color on the government cheese for a long time. They want to keep those people there ...buying votes IMO.

I see tones of young black professionals walking the streets, here in Chattanooga and other places we visit. I think you are one of them.

Don't vote the way your Grandparents and Parents voted. At one point they voted for survival, I get it, as was my Alabama family was very sympathetic to the cause. LOL...everybody from Alabama is a redneck, but not that kind of redneck.

In todays USA, vote for opportunity, and for all of us, that is only Republican.

Here is the deal Swish...you can't legislate change and you can't force change. It happens over time. I am a bit older than you. I have seen tons of change towards black people. If you can go talk to your grandparents and ask them if things have changed, they would have to say yes. I am assuming your Grandparents might have been born in the late 40's to early/mid 50's. Even if in the early 60's. It's hard for me to gauge things...all of my grandparents were born in the late 1890's. Parents in 1922 and 1927. Dang, that was a long time ago...lol

Not as much as needed, but the funny thing is it mostly attributed to who most black folk vote for in elections..

It's up to you man

Trump is wise to fear a socialist opponent

While in public Donald Trump mocks the idea of socialism, behind closed doors he has reportedly been telling confidants a socialist opponent won’t be “so easy” to beat. And you know what? This might be Donald Trump at his wisest. He should be terrified of a socialist running against him in 2020.

Reports of the American people’s horror at the mere whisper of “socialism” are greatly exaggerated. An August Gallup poll showed Democrats actually feel positive towards socialism than capitalism: 57 percent to 47 percent. 43 percent of those polled in May said socialism was a “good thing for the country.” That’s not just Democrats, by the way.

That’s the American public at large. Socialism might not yet have majority support, but it already has a higher approval rating than Donald Trump does on a good day.

All of this has developed during a time when the American people are almost never presented with accurate information about socialism or socialist policies. Fox News bounces back and forth between shocking ignorance on the topic and willful misrepresentations.

CNN and MSNBC are little better. How high would those approval numbers be if the American people hadn’t been gaslit about socialism on a daily basis throughout their lives?

Bear in mind, voters won’t be going to the polls thinking about socialism as some abstract concept. They’ll be presented throughout the election with specific policies. There Trump should be even more worried.

Let’s acknowledge first that across much of the world, many of these policies wouldn’t be considered “socialist” at all. It’s a testament to how twisted our political language has become and how far to the right the Overton window has been shifted that common-sense progressive policies are called socialist in the United States by politicians and media outlets that should know better.

The most discussed “socialist” policy in the 2020 cycle, "Medicare for All," regularly polls above 70 percent approval. Far scarier for Trump and the GOP, it has majority support even among Republicans. A passionate advocate for making Medicare universal wouldn’t just fire up the Democratic base and independents, but could even pick off a chunk of the Republican vote. That’s a chunk Donald Trump simply can’t afford to lose.

It goes beyond healthcare. The Green New Deal, though plagued by pervasive right-wing misinformation almost since its introduction, still polls above 60 percent, and has almost 100 percent approval amongst Democrats, who increasingly will be driven to the polls by concerns over lack of progress on confronting the climate crisis. Free college tuition? Majority approval. Canceling student loan debt? Even more popular. Doubling the top marginal tax rate? More popular than not. Imposing a wealth tax? Above 60 percent approval.

We could go on, but long story short, the last thing a President as historically unpopular as Donald Trump wants is to run against a candidate championing this slate of extraordinarily popular policies. Trump knows this. Hell, Trump has tried to do this himself.

You might recall that Trump flirted with “socialist” policies to help win the Republican primary. On health care, you could be forgiven for thinking he had campaigned on setting up a single-payer system. On 60 minutes he said “I am going to take care of everybody… everybody’s going to be taken care of much better than they’re taken care of now.” He sought to differentiate himself on the primary debate stage by saying “We’re going to take care of people who are dying on the street.” This occasional dalliance with socialism didn’t begin in 2015. Way back in 1999, Trump floated a bold plan to reduce the national debt: a one-time 14.5 percent wealth tax on all fortunes over $10 million. That’s the sort of plan that would get him blacklisted from Fox News were he to adopt it in 2019.

He never made good on any of these promises, of course, but as duplicitous as he was, it showed that he understood even then the growing appeal of socialist policies and ideas.

And who will champion these policies? Among the many Democratic primary contenders, no one fits the bill quite like Bernie Sanders. That has to have Trump running scared.

He’s never been comfortable going up directly against Bernie Sanders. He rarely mentions him in rallies or tweets. He hasn’t even been able to brand Bernie with one of his trademark nicknames. “Crazy Bernie” is childish and condescending, sure, but it doesn’t have the cachet of a “Low Energy Jeb” or “Lil’ Marco.” It isn’t going to stick. It isn’t going to get the MAGA crowds fired up like a “Crooked Hillary.” Either Trump’s heart isn’t in it, or he fears drawing the attention of Bernie and his massive social media fan base.

And that might be what’s truly lying beneath Donald Trump’s growing anxiety about running against “socialism.” What he fears isn’t just running against a different list of policies but running against a different sort of politician.

Trump clearly relished running against Hillary Clinton in 2016. He also clearly misses it, since he has tweeted about Clinton more than two hundred times since his inauguration. Clinton rejected the above policies, and so Trump found her easy to brand as an out of touch elite, with him opposing her as the champion of the millions of forgotten American voters. Democrats choosing a centrist candidate in the Clinton tradition would be giving Donald Trump exactly what he wants, putting him back on a battlefield he’s extremely comfortable with.

To add insult to injury, Republicans will end up calling that centrist a socialist anyway. They’ve done it to virtually every Democratic candidate going back a century.

Trump’s worst fear is to be matched up against a candidate like Bernie Sanders. A candidate who understands, as even Donald Trump does, the power and appeal of so-called “socialist” policies.

Now it’s up to the Democrats to decide if they want to make his worst fears come true.

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/472987-trump-is-wise-to-fear-a-socialist-opponent

Opinion piece. I agree with most of it.

Yikes!

Obama's former doc says Biden 'not a healthy guy' after reviewing medical info: Report

One of President Obama's former doctors reportedly disputed a letter released by former Vice President Joe Biden's campaign in which the former vice president's own doctor praised the 77-year-old presidential candidate as a "healthy, vigorous" man.

“He’s not a healthy guy,” said Dr. David Scheiner, who previously served as Obama's physician. According to the Washington Examiner, Scheiner read Biden's medical history and said the presidential candidate "has a lot of issues."

“He’s not in bad shape for his age, but I wouldn't say he’s in outstanding health. Could I guarantee he won't have issues for the next four years? He has a lot of issues that are just sort of sitting there," Scheiner said.

Scheiner previously told the Examiner that Biden "looked frail" during the first Democratic primary debate. "I sort of got the feeling he wasn’t very strong. It was similar to the feeling I got when Republicans started attacking Mueller so fiercely," he said.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/obamas-doc-biden-not-healthy

Get well soon Joe.

Biden, Sanders reject Obama's claim that 'old men' should get out of way of women leaders

Former Vice President Joe Biden and Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., were singled out at the Democrats' debate Thursday night over remarks recently made by President Obama about how "old men" should get out of the way for more women leaders.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/joe-biden-berrnie-sanders-debate-obama-old-men

WOWsers!

They probably should. Two dudes who could very well die will in office. Especially one who recently had a heart attack.

Anyways, came away even more impressed with mayor Pete. He ripped warren to shreds over her trying to call him out about the campaign fund raiser he had. But still has a very long way to go to impressing the majority of minorities. Cute sound bites won’t cut it.

Honestly While I have two favorites still in the running....tonight’s debates sucked.

Yang brought it up as well. He’s now the only non white dude running. And hey, my top two were white people, but it does send a very odd message that their are more billionaires running under the democratic banner than people of color.

I know we’ve always had one or two billionaires trying to make a run in our history.....but man it say something that trump actually winning got all these clowns coming down from their golden chair preaching to the peasants that they’re here to save us. Smh.

The reality is that over 50% of black voters favor Biden. No matter what color you are you have to be able to convince voters you are the best choice for the job. Had Booker or Harris been able to do that, they would have been on stage.

Democratic candidate Elizabeth Warren releases a $10.7 trillion plan to create 10.6 million green jobs
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/20/elizabeth-warren-releases-plan-to-create-millions-of-green-jobs.html

Warren’s $52T 'Medicare-for-all' plan revealed
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/warrens...ax-hikes-needed

Somebody Stop Her already!!!

Lol.... settle down 40, the electoral college will save Putin’s puppet.

Oh BTW trump is now saying Putin told him Ukraine was trying to thwart his 2016 campaign. A POTUS now perpetuating Russian propaganda here. Putin is so proud.

Missed this one. Bernie 2020!

LOL! What a bunch of Communist/Socialist Clowns!

Good luck Dims!

Trump in a 2020 Landslide!

Thanks for the try at Impeachment. I am actually sad for you, because it was so pathetic.

Try? Bruh, he's impeached and can't be unimpeached. I hope he's eligible to run in 2020, it'll be much more satisfying watching him melt down and all his rubes being crushed.

Yeah, this nincompoop is really impressive...

"Democratic presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg on Thursday called for expedited citizenship for immigrant children separated from their families and for moves to begin reparations for both them and descendants of slavery.

Buttigieg, the South Bend, Indiana, mayor, said he was committed to financial reparations to children separated from their families".

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/pol...ieg/2706727001/

Because he has compassion like Jesus?

These Progressive Dems are fools but I just listened to an interview with Yang and was impressed. He has some good ideas.

Tulsi is a keeper too.

Yang is one of the most far left progressive candidates out there. Tulsi has no spine in the realm of politics.

You need to educate yourself on the Dem candidates.

Why? You obviously didn't follow your own advice on Republican candidates in 2016.

These Dem candidates are a not only bunch of Socialist clowns but also a disgrace to this country.

All you have to do is look at who likes your posts to see that you're the only one who takes you seriously.

It's easy to be like Jesus with other people's money.

It's easy not to be like Jesus when you think it's not worth helping the poor with your money.

It's easy to be poor when you know you'll be taken care of by other people's money.

It's easy to be poor when a certain party will do anything it can to keep you in a subsistence/relying on them for your existence, state.

It's easy to be poor when it's generational poor, because that's all you've known.

I love helping people help themselves. I really do.

I won't go into any micro examples, though, even though I see them daily. I'd love to, because I truly feel the micro examples I could give are true on a macro level.

That's the problem a lot of people have. They seem to think the examples they are aware of wipe out the examples they aren't aware of.

And actually I'm not a fan of people who have the ability to help themselves that "choose" not to. But it's much larger than that.

40% of Americans only one missed paycheck away from poverty

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/40-of-americans-one-step-from-poverty-if-they-miss-a-paycheck/

A lot of our fellow Americans aren't able to make a living even when they are working. While you are certainly right that many who aren't working could help themselves, it's also true that many of those trying their best can't make it.

They can't afford to see a doctor. They can't afford to maintain a vehicle. I wish there were a way of separating the two. But so far it seems that both extremes aren't looking for a compromise.

You sound like a greed riddled TV preacher. You want to help them help themselves... I think the poor have had plenty of that kind of help for far too long. The truth about people like you, maybe not in you particular but people with your mindset, is that the weight of your personal contribution is enough to put limits on doing good for others. You don mind them getting a little help as long as you are looked out for first.

The thought that ANY government program used to help the poor is taking anything away from you is just laughable. Even if you were paying a million a year in taxes, the percentage of your money that goes to help anyone in need in anyway would be infinitesimal! If taxes were even actually used to fund programs, which they are not, the odds are much higher that you bought a few live rounds for a war than fed a needy person a meal with your tax dollars. So maybe that will help you sleep well.

The government collects taxes well after the money has been spent, always... so your taxes do not fund programs, they are collected to regulate the flow of money in the poor and working classes. They keep you broke and owing them US dollars. It makes you work for your corporate masters. That's what taxes do.

When the rich convince those that make $30 a hour that the people making $7.25 an hour are the problem, we all lose.

Exactly, all the democrat candidates are socialist at this current moment. None of them are moderate at all. Can someone answer what happened to the Democrat party?

Relax, they are only lying to us to get the Progressive vote in the primaries. They will change their tune in the General Election.

Under Trump the truth is nothing but lies and the lies are the truth.

You haven't been paying attention. I hope you have updated your healthcare to cover windmill cancer.