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Remember when we were supposed to be good?
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The Dolphins, who tried to tank and traded almost all their good players, are 5-11. The Browns, who sucked my soul from my body, are 6-10.
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“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
- Theodore Roosevelt
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The Dolphins, who tried to tank and traded almost all their good players, are 5-11. The Browns, who sucked my soul from my body, are 6-10. Coaching matters
Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday. -John Wayne
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Will he (Frederick) stay or will he go....
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Browns ended with a worse record than last year. Kitchens sucks and needs fired. There's always next year.
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Bring in fitz, bridgewater or dalton.
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Well, that ought to just about put an end to the Freddie Kitchens nightmare. This time tomorrow he will be out of a job and we will be in full-on coach search mode. Here's praying that this time we hire an experienced head coach and not another damned coordinator.
#BlackLivesMatter #StopAsianHate
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Remember when we were supposed to be good? You're not going to be good when you don't have a QB.
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I just watched the dolphins beat the patriots, yet we just got bounced by Ciny by 10 points.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
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I was just thinking that about the Dolphins. They have the worst roster in the NFL and are playing with the ultimate journeyman QB. But they never gave up. We had a roster full of stars. I would take their coach right now.
Freddie is done, obviously. Baker should tell his agent no commercials. He should go underground, be humble and work his ass off. He may not have a future in the league.
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Flores is definitely a superior coach over Kitchens.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
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Flores is definitely a superior coach over Kitchens. Imagine what he would do with talent. He might be a top five coach!
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How many people want to keep Freddie now ?
The Cleveland Browns - WE KNOW QUARTERBACKS ( Look at how many we've had ... )
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It's not the record so much, as HOW that record was won/lost. We played like a bunch of misfits all year and this game was the capstone on a horribly coached team.
Freddie should be fired. He is not head coach material. This game proved beyond all doubt that this team has no pride. The Bengals, played with more pride than we had all season long. And in a perverse way, I am happy for Dalton to end his career there on a winning note. Cause that's what winners do. Us, not so much.
Some of you mentioned the Dolphins. Case closed. Freddie needs to go. Period!
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Freddie will stay. This was his rookie season. Improvement to come.
Baker had the sophomore jinx, improvement to come.
We pick up a world class left tackle. Thomas hired to tutor him.
Offense has plenty of talent otherwise. We build on that by addressing the line.
New Defensive Coordinator to be purchased. Defense needs more talent.
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Here's praying that this time we hire an experienced head coach and not another damned coordinator. Agreed. I don't care if they write a blank check to whoever is the best option out there. They have to get it right this time so the talent on this team isn't wasted before it's too late.
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- Another season of double digit losses
- Organization is a dumpster fire
- Hurry up and fire Freddie.
- What an absolute embarrassment.
- The miserable season finally is over.
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Anyone still want to keep this continuity?
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Remember when we were supposed to be good?
No! I don't. Was Van Halen the number one music act back then?
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Freddie will stay. This was his rookie season. Improvement to come.
Baker had the sophomore jinx, improvement to come.
We pick up a world class left tackle. Thomas hired to tutor him.
Offense has plenty of talent otherwise. We build on that by addressing the line.
New Defensive Coordinator to be purchased. Defense needs more talent. 
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Freddy will be lucky if he could get a job as a high school coach after this total dumpster fire he presided over.
He better spend the millions he duped us out of wisely. It'll be the last football money he ever earns.
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Feels like we have more holes than last year
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Feels like we have more holes than last year Sure does...
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Freddie shouldn't get the chance to talk.
Haslam needs to write his own pink slip while he's at it. He's a total failure as an owner.
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I was just thinking that about the Dolphins. They have the worst roster in the NFL and are playing with the ultimate journeyman QB. But they never gave up. We had a roster full of stars. I would take their coach right now.
Freddie is done, obviously. Baker should tell his agent no commercials. He should go underground, be humble and work his ass off. He may not have a future in the league. This is just silly. Mayfield is a solid QB, and he will get better.
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Remember when we were supposed to be good? The good old days! I remember when this season was supposed to be fun.
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Go back to the threads where Freddie got hired
He could do no wrong and if you questioned the hire the Homers jumped all over you
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Feels like we have more holes than last year Left tackle Right tackle Maybe right guard Tight end (although a new coach should want to get a look at Njoku) At least one safety A linebacker if Schobert is not retained
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Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday. -John Wayne
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Post game thoughts.
McCarthy or Rivera please, please, please.
This game reminded me of the last game or two at the end of the Chud era - team on the field could care less for the most part. Flat and disinterested.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
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Baker Mayfield resume two years in --
No playoffs.
Lost to a guy who never started a game.
Lost to a guy known for making duck calls.
Lost to a 3 win team.
Lost to a 1 win team.
Multiple multiple INT games.
Multiple INTs on game winning or tying drives the Browns had to have.
Multiple failures on game winning or tying drives.
Did not work in the off season.
Says he won't seek help this off season.
33rd ranked QB out of 32 teanms in the league in 2nd season.
Doesn't make game winning plays.
Plays his best only when executing scripted plays that were practiced.
Consistently demonstrates slow eyes. Takes way too long to go through progressions.
Appears to have no idea what is going on pre or post snap.
Stormed out of presser.
Repeatedly says dumb things.
#franchiseQB
#itsallcoaching
#loser
Someone feel free to post his list of positives for comparison sake.
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Baker Mayfield resume two years in --
No playoffs.
Lost to a guy who never started a game.
Lost to a guy known for making duck calls.
Lost to a 3 win team.
Lost to a 1 win team.
Multiple multiple INT games.
Multiple INTs on game winning or tying drives the Browns had to have.
Multiple failures on game winning or tying drives.
Did not work in the off season.
Says he won't seek help this off season.
33rd ranked QB out of 32 teanms in the league in 2nd season.
Doesn't make game winning plays.
Plays his best only when executing scripted plays that were practiced.
Consistently demonstrates slow eyes. Takes way too long to go through progressions.
Appears to have no idea what is going on pre or post snap.
Stormed out of presser.
Repeatedly says dumb things.
#franchiseQB
#itsallcoaching
#loser
Someone feel free to post his list of positives for comparison sake. HAHAHAHAHAHA - You so funny.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
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w/Browns loss 6 - 10
Going into week 17 with 9 teams a head of them in the Draft,
3 tied records
7 wins with wins
Jets win - check
Falcons win - check
Broncos win - ?
^Cardinals 5 - 9 - 1 ?
Come even
Jaguars 5 - 10 ?
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j/c:
What a fitting ending to our season. Doesn't surprise me at all that we lost this one one bit (sighs).
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Baker is not a franchise QB.
Freddie is in deep water, way over his head and with an anvil chained to his legs. He should have never been given this job. He had no experience and it’s not his fault. But, he needs to go.
Ward only played 11 games. Last year 13. Is health a question?
Vernon played 9 games. He;s not worth the price.
And we all know what happened to MG. I hope he’s back for a full season next year.
And of course our o-line could use some tweaking.
Davis N-joke-u needs to go.
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I like Mayfield. I want him to succeed. But saying he is a “solid QB” is delusional. He was the worst ranked starter in the league. Right now, Daniel Jones is better. Gardner Minshew is better. Derek Carr, Josh Allen, Sam Darnold and Ryan Fitzpatrick are better.
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