DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Browns fire Freddie Kitchens

Because the Knight that can pull Excalibur from the stone, will be King!

Sad to see it happen because freddie for the most part was one of us. Blue collar guy. If anyone is to blame even more its Dorsey. He should have taken another year before trying to win right away with all these personalities. It's alot for any coach, 100x worse for a guy thats never been more than a position coach. He should have trusted his people more and went with Stefanski. That being said, Freddie did himself no favors being a control freak about the play calling. Should have been Monken from day one while Freddie acclimated..

I’m still confused as to why people are blaming the Haslams for this. Dorsey said he wanted Freddie, they said OK. That’s why he was hired, right?

Are you crazy? The last thing we need is Manweenie. We need a REAL coach not a Bill Belichick wanna-be.

No kidding. They wasted no time. I hope they at least called him an Uber.

I would be shocked if Mike McCarthy signed on the dotted line with Dorsey still here. Maybe in Carolina ..

What is Marvin Lewis up to?

Yeah McCarthy is a pipe dream as long as Dorsey is here. Then again it might not be Dorsey's call and we might have another situation where the HC doesn't report to GM

The one shining light we didn't have in the past is the roster. It's the ONLY thing that can entice a good coach.

Hopefully staying away from Berea.

"Comprehensive approach" means that we will watch all of the other teams take the best available.

Stefanski and Zimmer have got to get interviews I'd think.

I just threw up a little bit in my mouth.

That was funny ... I hope not true, but funny.

Not shocked at all. Still, soooo tired of seeing this movie. Now it is time for the Browns fan annual "what if's" filled offseason. Followed by glimmers of faith and hope. Closely followed with tempered expectations. Then most predictably guaranteed sadness and grief…. Yawn!!! Someone write a new script for Pete's sake!

Zimmer is still employed.

Except there is a major question mark at the most important position.

I think you almost need a retread at this point. Some known commodity in which to gauge where you are as a team..then you don't get the whole is it talent or coaching. Thats why I want no part of a college coach or rookie HC's Give me McCarthy, Caldwell, Rivera, Pagano, Hell, pull Brian Billick or Dungy out of retirement with a blank check

Its just good old Deja Vu!

What about McDaniels?

No Thanks.

wonder if Dorsey will get to "flex" his muscles again.

I vote No

I would not be opposed to McDaniels.

Dan Campbell with Joe Brady as OC.

Even if Dorsey survives, he is weakened considerably, IMO. He spent a lot of capital hiring Kitchens, along with some of his personnel moves. I'm not encouraged that Haslam is apparently taking the lead with the new coach search.

I kind of like this.

There is, but the talent is there at least. Baker regressed in a huge way, but it seems at least a pay of that was Kitchens. It's obvious the players didn't buy in. His play calling sucked.

Baker needs to improve a ton, but he is still way better then anything we had in the past.

It will be tough to pry him away from Foxboro, I think. If he would be able to bring the Pats offense here, the players on the roster would make it viable. Chubb and Hunt, Landry, Njoku, Mayfield. I think the Pats offense would be one in which Mayfield would thrive.

LSU OC is a better job than OC of the Browns. Joe Brady needs a head coach interview.

Dorsey is demoted.

He is lucky to still have his job after this horrendous Freddie hire.

I don't really like the idea of mcdaniels, he was really bad with denver and he seems flaky as hell, but if he's packaged with Caserio I'd consider it. People forget, Tom brady was good before Mcdaniels, its not like he made Brady. Any BB disciple is a huge gamble. Has there ever even been one with a winning season..lol

coaching the fighting illini

I’m skeptical of all the Belichick guys. It’s impossible to know how much Belichick contributes.

Kill this thread.
Why do we now care...
From his mouth
‘If you don’t wear orange and brown, you don’t matter.’

As long as we are talking about retreads, which is a derisive way of saying someone who has proven themselves, I still like Jeff Fisher. And I know I am about to get clobbered, but his teams were always tough.

Tough and not good.

McDaniel was a bust as St. Louis Ram OC too. Of course just about everyone was a bust there too in St. Louis’ last 10 years.

Solid point. History shows that his coordinators often fail when taking the next step.

they have to interview a minority... that better not be our DC (Wilkes).