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As long as we are talking about retreads, which is a derisive way of saying someone who has proven themselves, I still like Jeff Fisher. And I know I am about to get clobbered, but his teams were always tough. Jeff Fisher would be an amazing hire!
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Fixed it for you.
Jeff Fisher would be an amazingly bad hire!
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Dan Campbell with Joe Brady as OC. LSU OC is a better job than OC of the Browns. Joe Brady needs a head coach interview. Cincy bound with Joe B.
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If Fisher would hire a really good OC and leave him alone....maybe. His offenses were the problem for the most part. His defenses were ok. After all, he was a safety under Buddy Ryan.
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As long as we are talking about retreads, which is a derisive way of saying someone who has proven themselves, I still like Jeff Fisher. And I know I am about to get clobbered, but his teams were always tough. I'd rather have them dump a truck of money on Cowher's lap if we're going for a guy who has been out of the game for more than a couple of years.
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If Fisher would hire a really good OC and leave him alone....maybe. His offenses were the problem for the most part. His defenses were ok. After all, he was a safety under Buddy Ryan. What does playing safety for Buddy Ryan have to do with coaching in 2020?
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As long as we are talking about retreads, which is a derisive way of saying someone who has proven themselves, I still like Jeff Fisher. And I know I am about to get clobbered, but his teams were always tough. I'd rather have them dump a truck of money on Cowher's lap if we're going for a guy who has been out of the game for more than a couple of years. This is insane.
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That could be truly ugly. But it might work. I could live with McCarthy.
I am really interested in coordinators immediately. Can a defense that can't get off the field against about everybody still worth keeping? I do not think we have the LBs for this scheme or the scheme is poor. As for an offense with some premier talent that just stalled and a QB who was a turnover factory this year, should it be kept. Is all the disappointment starting and ending with FK? Because I think we had little NFL offensive success like the playoff teams. And it didn't post gaudy numbers against the teams it should have shredded. We were predictable, dumb, and goofy. Repeatedly. Not sure all of that leaves with FK. I think as a team, we ended the season worse than when we started and managed to avoid winning some early games. Thanks, Freddie for some honest work and sincere caring for Cleveland. Learn from this, and good luck. No "1-0" speeches here though. You are your record and your losses.
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As long as we are talking about retreads, which is a derisive way of saying someone who has proven themselves, I still like Jeff Fisher. And I know I am about to get clobbered, but his teams were always tough. I'd rather have them dump a truck of money on Cowher's lap if we're going for a guy who has been out of the game for more than a couple of years. This is insane. Hahaha!!! That's how I feel about hiring Jeff Fisher.
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As long as we are talking about retreads, which is a derisive way of saying someone who has proven themselves, I still like Jeff Fisher. And I know I am about to get clobbered, but his teams were always tough. I'd rather have them dump a truck of money on Cowher's lap if we're going for a guy who has been out of the game for more than a couple of years. This is insane. Hahaha!!! That's how I feel about hiring Jeff Fisher. Both are nonsensical.
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Or never tough enough. Not what we need IMO.
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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/12/29/browns-fire-freddie-kitchens/Posted by Michael David Smith on December 29, 2019, 7:55 PM EST Freddie Kitchens is one-and-done in Cleveland. The Browns fired Kitchens today after finishing the 2019 season with a 6-10 record, PFT has confirmed. The news doesn’t come as a surprise, as the Browns were one of the NFL’s most disappointing teams this season. The preseason hype was off the charts in Cleveland, and many fans, bettors and members of the media expected the Browns to make the playoffs. Instead, they were never in contention. At the same time, it’s hard not to wonder how the Browns can ever succeed if they keep making changes so quickly. Since Jimmy Haslam bought the team, only one coach has been given a third year — and that was Hue Jackson, whose tenure in Cleveland was a disaster. Now it’s back to the drawing board for Cleveland, where the Browns need to find someone who can take a roster that looks talented on paper and turn it into a much better team than 6-10.
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Saw this coming. It had to be done.
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As long as we are talking about retreads, which is a derisive way of saying someone who has proven themselves, I still like Jeff Fisher. And I know I am about to get clobbered, but his teams were always tough. I'd rather have them dump a truck of money on Cowher's lap if we're going for a guy who has been out of the game for more than a couple of years. This is insane. Hahaha!!! That's how I feel about hiring Jeff Fisher. Both are nonsensical. Correct! Mine was a joke, though.
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As long as we are talking about retreads, which is a derisive way of saying someone who has proven themselves, I still like Jeff Fisher. And I know I am about to get clobbered, but his teams were always tough. I'd rather have them dump a truck of money on Cowher's lap if we're going for a guy who has been out of the game for more than a couple of years. This is insane. Hahaha!!! That's how I feel about hiring Jeff Fisher. Both are nonsensical. Correct! Mine was a joke, though. Bill Cowher and Strongsville are trending in Cleveland on Twitter. 
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National NFL writer for Yahoo. He gets some scoops.
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I feel bad for Kitchens because he seems to be a very caring person and a nice guy. He just was in over his head. I feel bad for him also.You're right, Kitchens was clearly in over his head. I'm sure he will be hired by another team. Just not as HC.
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Not thrilled next year we will have the 7th overall pick then everybody will be saying fire dorsey then draft the3 rd available qb.
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He made alot of money for being a buffoon. More than any of us might ever see. I think Kitchens ends up in the new XFL as a Special teams assistant
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Geez, this actually seems mean...
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well that would be an awkward flight/bus ride back from Cin...if they let him on either. Hope he leased his condo and didn't buy.
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Geez, this actually seems mean...
People are tearing into them for posting that photo.
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Geez, this actually seems mean...
Pretty sad. This is all on Dorsey.
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Geez, this actually seems mean...
People are tearing into them for posting that photo. It's a video.
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Geez, this actually seems mean...
People are tearing into them for posting that photo. As they should. Let him have privacy in his lowest moment.
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Geez, this actually seems mean...
People are tearing into them for posting that photo. As they should. Let him have privacy in his lowest moment. Agree. I didn't like him much as a coach, but he seemed like a good human. This is trashy reporting.
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Totally depressing. It stinks seeing people getting their dreams crushes every year.
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Geez, this actually seems mean...
Pretty sad. This is all on Dorsey. Dorsey posted this video?
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dorsey has fired two coaches.
In 15 months. He better get better soon.
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Geez, this actually seems mean...
Pretty sad. This is all on Dorsey. Dorsey posted this video? That's supposed to be funny? FAIL
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Geez, this actually seems mean...
People are tearing into them for posting that photo. Including me.
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