Depodesta has been at the center of ever coach and management problem since he was hired by the Browns.
It's the Moneyball man that Haslam's full support...yet what the hell has Depo done to help the Browns build a winning team.
He has been a part time hire for 4 yrs, with him and wife preferring to spend their time San Diego starting a new business in 2012, the year Haslam hired him to work in Cleveland.
Depodesta's record speaks for itself...what does he do other than create conflict within the Browns front office.
This franchise has become nothing but a toy for Jimmy and Depo to play with.
The Browns do not need two GMs...Depodesta needs to be fired.
I don't think Depo wants to be a GM .. I think he is doing the job the job he was hired for .. to offer alternate ideas. He did not think Freddie was ready. He was right. He thought someone else was a better choice, we will never know because the choice was not made. Dorsey dug his own grave with Freddie. If he had stayed with William's or gone to McCarthy last year.. we could very well have been in the playoffs. Hind sight is 20/20 .. now we have to move on.
The Cleveland Browns - WE KNOW QUARTERBACKS ( Look at how many we've had ... )
Tell us what depo does to improve the Browns performance on the field.
what did dorsey do? we were worse this year
Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday. -John Wayne
Let’s wait to see it play out ... let’s see what coach signs up and what the structure is. IMO, this probably means Stefansky will be here
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
Depo came in with Sashi. so there has really only been one blowup with a GM that Depo has been part of, because as far as I know, Depo did not advocate dumping Sashi. In this situation, there is no proof, no quotes, no witnesses to Depo advocating dumping Dorsey. Everything is board conjecture. Dorsey hitched his cart to Freddie, and Freddie burned down the stable.. Cart included.
Haslam, as a result wanted to restructure the Front Office. How so .. we do not know, all we know was Dorsey did not want to do it that way, did not want to give up total control. We do not know what proposal Haslam had, just that Dorsey did not like it and there was supposedly a mutual parting of the ways. Saying Depo was the hatchet man who instigated the whole thing is a huge stretch. As far as I can see, Dorsey dug his own grave.
For what it's worth, I thought Dorsey deserved 1 more year, but with a coaching search going on, Haslam wanted the freedom of not being locked into Dorsey being the only decision maker, and Dorsey did not want to give up power. Who is left to turn to ? Elliot Wolfe and Depo are the only experienced hands on deck. So now we wait and see...
The Cleveland Browns - WE KNOW QUARTERBACKS ( Look at how many we've had ... )
Depodesta has been at the center of ever coach and management problem since he was hired by the Browns.
It's the Moneyball man that Haslam's full support...yet what the hell has Depo done to help the Browns build a winning team.
He has been a part time hire for 4 yrs, with him and wife preferring to spend their time San Diego starting a new business in 2012, the year Haslam hired him to work in Cleveland.
Depodesta's record speaks for itself...what does he do other than create conflict within the Browns front office.
This franchise has become nothing but a toy for Jimmy and Depo to play with.
The Browns do not need two GMs...Depodesta needs to be fired.
I'll say it: maybe DePo is the one who needs to stay and everyone else needs to go?
Out of the 4 years that you bemoan, how many of them did Haslam or anyone else in the organization actually stick to the structure he was hired to put in place? We know that for at least the last 2 years he's earned the right to say "I told you so" when it comes to HC. Or maybe more accurately "I told you that you shouldn't".
Say what you will about Jimmy being fickle, or Dorsey's ego being before the team... there is nothing out there to date that shows DePo as being anything other than the lone consistent variable in Berea (even when he's not in Berea) over the last 4 years.
"Hey, I'm a reasonable guy. But I've just experienced some very unreasonable things." -Jack Burton
-It looks like the Harvard Boys know what they are doing after all.
Depodesta's very first draft pick...drafted a 5-10, 180lb WR with small hands (9") out of Baylor. Baylor plays in a league that is not known for their defensive play. It is a pass happy conference that produces good stats, though.
Coleman was known for his speed and track skills...but as a WR in the NFL some warned that Coleman had suspect hands and a problem with dropped passes, especially over the middle...
...anyone know the significance of a WR who drops passes over the middle?
...here is a clue..analytics will not identify why a WR might have a high rate of dropped passes, especially over the middle.
While Coleman's stats might have tipped the scale in favor of drafting Coleman as the best prospect, the negatives that some pointed out turned out to be "spot on".
Turns out that some of the draft scouts nailed it in their assessment of Coleman as a NFL prospect...Depodesta blew his first ever draft pick, big time.
Depodesta's very first draft pick...drafted a 5-10, 180lb WR with small hands (9") out of Baylor. Baylor plays in a league that is not known for their defensive play. It is a pass happy conference that produces good stats, though.
Coleman was known for his speed and track skills...but as a WR in the NFL some warned that Coleman had suspect hands and a problem with dropped passes, especially over the middle.
While Coleman's stats might have tipped the scale in favor of drafting Coleman as the best prospect, the negatives that some pointed out turned out to be "spot on".
Turns out that some of the draft scouts nailed it in their assessment of Coleman as a NFL prospect...Depodesta blew his first ever draft pick, big time.
...analytics, huh?
Corey Coleman just hasn't got the right opportunity. Give it time.
Depodesta's very first draft pick...drafted a 5-10, 180lb WR with small hands (9") out of Baylor. Baylor plays in a league that is not known for their defensive play. It is a pass happy conference that produces good stats, though.
Coleman was known for his speed and track skills...but as a WR in the NFL some warned that Coleman had suspect hands and a problem with dropped passes, especially over the middle...
...anyone know the significance of a WR who drops passes over the middle?
...here is a clue..analytics will not identify why a WR might have a high rate of dropped passes, especially over the middle.
While Coleman's stats might have tipped the scale in favor of drafting Coleman as the best prospect, the negatives that some pointed out turned out to be "spot on".
Turns out that some of the draft scouts nailed it in their assessment of Coleman as a NFL prospect...Depodesta blew his first ever draft pick, big time.
...analytics, huh?
Is that the same first draft DePo was pretty much just an observer?
So no, it wasn't his pick was it?
"Hey, I'm a reasonable guy. But I've just experienced some very unreasonable things." -Jack Burton
-It looks like the Harvard Boys know what they are doing after all.
Depodesta's very first draft pick...drafted a 5-10, 180lb WR with small hands (9") out of Baylor. Baylor plays in a league that is not known for their defensive play. It is a pass happy conference that produces good stats, though.
Coleman was known for his speed and track skills...but as a WR in the NFL some warned that Coleman had suspect hands and a problem with dropped passes, especially over the middle...
...anyone know the significance of a WR who drops passes over the middle?
...here is a clue..analytics will not identify why a WR might have a high rate of dropped passes, especially over the middle.
While Coleman's stats might have tipped the scale in favor of drafting Coleman as the best prospect, the negatives that some pointed out turned out to be "spot on".
Turns out that some of the draft scouts nailed it in their assessment of Coleman as a NFL prospect...Depodesta blew his first ever draft pick, big time.
...analytics, huh?
Is that the same first draft DePo was pretty much just an observer?
The Cleveland Browns shook the sporting landscape earlier this year when they hired a 'baseball guy' by the name of Paul DePodesta to serve as their Chief Strategy Officer. Many criticized the decision due his lack of football experience. With the 2016 NFL Draft approaching, it was unclear what role DePodesta would serve in the process. According to Mark Dominik of ESPN, the Harvard graduate will serve only as an observer during his inaugural draft opportunity. "
"Hey, I'm a reasonable guy. But I've just experienced some very unreasonable things." -Jack Burton
-It looks like the Harvard Boys know what they are doing after all.
The Cleveland Browns shook the sporting landscape earlier this year when they hired a 'baseball guy' by the name of Paul DePodesta to serve as their Chief Strategy Officer. Many criticized the decision due his lack of football experience. With the 2016 NFL Draft approaching, it was unclear what role DePodesta would serve in the process. According to Mark Dominik of ESPN, the Harvard graduate will serve only as an observer during his inaugural draft opportunity. "
The Cleveland Browns shook the sporting landscape earlier this year when they hired a 'baseball guy' by the name of Paul DePodesta to serve as their Chief Strategy Officer. Many criticized the decision due his lack of football experience. With the 2016 NFL Draft approaching, it was unclear what role DePodesta would serve in the process. According to Mark Dominik of ESPN, the Harvard graduate will serve only as an observer during his inaugural draft opportunity. "
Paul Depodesta is just a guy who offers analytical data into the discussion about who the team acquires. He just one of many voices in the input and discussion.
Depodesta is NOT the reason Dorsey is gone, Haslam is. Haslam is the cancer thatr can't leave things alone.
I’m not reading all the posts in this thread so this might have been said already but what if... depodesta has been the only one advising against all these colossally inane moves all these years and Haslam is finally waking up to it? I’m actually not saying this is likely but I don’t know, neither do you. I have heard that he was against the Kitchens hire, which was definitely the right position imo. Insinuating he’s some kind of master mind, black hand without any actual data other than he’s the only common thread and he’s an analytics guy. Neither of which is actual anything to go on.
"Team Chemistry No Match for Team Biology" (Onion Sports Headline)
mac, your anger is misguided. It's not Depo you should be mad at or is the cause of the upheaval. It's Haslam.
I suspect that Haslam and Depo can coexist with a commitment to analytics. I suspect that Haslam and Dorsey could coexist with a traditional football approach. Depo and Dorsey don't ride the fence. Haslam does. He is and continues to be the worst owners in sports. He creates the conflict by inviting it into the building.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
Depodesta has been at the center of ever coach and management problem since he was hired by the Browns.
It's the Moneyball man that Haslam's full support...yet what the hell has Depo done to help the Browns build a winning team.
He has been a part time hire for 4 yrs, with him and wife preferring to spend their time San Diego starting a new business in 2012, the year Haslam hired him to work in Cleveland.
Depodesta's record speaks for itself...what does he do other than create conflict within the Browns front office.
This franchise has become nothing but a toy for Jimmy and Depo to play with.
The Browns do not need two GMs...Depodesta needs to be fired.
I disagree. He seems to be the only sensible one in the bunch.
He didn't hire Freddie. He didn't trade Zeitler. He didn't draft Corbett.
Just look at the facts. We'd be far better off had Depo been leading the FO.
Dorsey sucked. Plus, the guy was dim. All you had to do was listen to him talk to tell he wasn't very sharp. But, he was a "football" guy....or should I say a "foobal" guy? Heeeeeuuuuug.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
Depodesta has been at the center of ever coach and management problem since he was hired by the Browns.
It's the Moneyball man that Haslam's full support...yet what the hell has Depo done to help the Browns build a winning team.
He has been a part time hire for 4 yrs, with him and wife preferring to spend their time San Diego starting a new business in 2012, the year Haslam hired him to work in Cleveland.
Depodesta's record speaks for itself...what does he do other than create conflict within the Browns front office.
This franchise has become nothing but a toy for Jimmy and Depo to play with.
The Browns do not need two GMs...Depodesta needs to be fired.
I disagree. He seems to be the only sensible one in the bunch.
He didn't hire Freddie. He didn't trade Zeitler. He didn't draft Corbett.
Just look at the facts. We'd be far better off had Depo been leading the FO.
Dorsey sucked. Plus, the guy was dim. All you had to do was listen to him talk to tell he wasn't very sharp. But, he was a "football" guy....or should I say a "foobal" guy? Heeeeeuuuuug.
Extremely disagree.
Dorsey is the sole reason we have the team we have now.
Whether you like to admit it or not.
His loss is huge. We may never get a GM of his caliber again.
Depo is a non factor in any of that, despite you trying to make it his imaginary job.
Depodesta has been at the center of ever coach and management problem since he was hired by the Browns.
It's the Moneyball man that Haslam's full support...yet what the hell has Depo done to help the Browns build a winning team.
He has been a part time hire for 4 yrs, with him and wife preferring to spend their time San Diego starting a new business in 2012, the year Haslam hired him to work in Cleveland.
Depodesta's record speaks for itself...what does he do other than create conflict within the Browns front office.
This franchise has become nothing but a toy for Jimmy and Depo to play with.
The Browns do not need two GMs...Depodesta needs to be fired.
I disagree. He seems to be the only sensible one in the bunch.
He didn't hire Freddie. He didn't trade Zeitler. He didn't draft Corbett.
Just look at the facts. We'd be far better off had Depo been leading the FO.
Dorsey sucked. Plus, the guy was dim. All you had to do was listen to him talk to tell he wasn't very sharp. But, he was a "football" guy....or should I say a "foobal" guy? Heeeeeuuuuug.
Extremely disagree.
Dorsey is the sole reason we have the team we have now.
Whether you like to admit it or not.
His loss is huge. We may never get a GM of his calibre again.
Depo is a non factor in any of that, despite you trying to make it his imaginary job.
Is that extremely, or extremely, extremely disagree? Sorry sister, just making a joke.
Our team is worse than last years. Do you mean that team Dorsey built?
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
Rish...here is my opinion of Depo...he is Haslam's butt boy, ready to spread his brand of bs everytime he gets together with the boss.
Depodesta is going to continue to create friction in the front office as he and Jimmy evaluate the performance of the coaches and management, while NO ONE EVALUATES Depodesta and Haslam.
Having Depodesta tattling on everyone else to Haslam enables Haslam to continue to keep his grimy fingers all over the football side of the franchise.
Depodesta has been at the center of ever coach and management problem since he was hired by the Browns.
It's the Moneyball man that Haslam's full support...yet what the hell has Depo done to help the Browns build a winning team.
He has been a part time hire for 4 yrs, with him and wife preferring to spend their time San Diego starting a new business in 2012, the year Haslam hired him to work in Cleveland.
Depodesta's record speaks for itself...what does he do other than create conflict within the Browns front office.
This franchise has become nothing but a toy for Jimmy and Depo to play with.
The Browns do not need two GMs...Depodesta needs to be fired.
I disagree. He seems to be the only sensible one in the bunch.
He didn't hire Freddie. He didn't trade Zeitler. He didn't draft Corbett.
Just look at the facts. We'd be far better off had Depo been leading the FO.
Dorsey sucked. Plus, the guy was dim. All you had to do was listen to him talk to tell he wasn't very sharp. But, he was a "football" guy....or should I say a "foobal" guy? Heeeeeuuuuug.
Extremely disagree.
Dorsey is the sole reason we have the team we have now.
Whether you like to admit it or not.
His loss is huge. We may never get a GM of his calibre again.
Depo is a non factor in any of that, despite you trying to make it his imaginary job.
Is that extremely, or extremely, extremely disagree? Sorry sister, just making a joke.
Our team is worse than last years. Do you mean that team Dorsey built?
Would you prefer to go back to the team we had pre-Dorsey? I think not.
Depodesta has been at the center of ever coach and management problem since he was hired by the Browns.
It's the Moneyball man that Haslam's full support...yet what the hell has Depo done to help the Browns build a winning team.
He has been a part time hire for 4 yrs, with him and wife preferring to spend their time San Diego starting a new business in 2012, the year Haslam hired him to work in Cleveland.
Depodesta's record speaks for itself...what does he do other than create conflict within the Browns front office.
This franchise has become nothing but a toy for Jimmy and Depo to play with.
The Browns do not need two GMs...Depodesta needs to be fired.
I disagree. He seems to be the only sensible one in the bunch.
He didn't hire Freddie. He didn't trade Zeitler. He didn't draft Corbett.
Just look at the facts. We'd be far better off had Depo been leading the FO.
Dorsey sucked. Plus, the guy was dim. All you had to do was listen to him talk to tell he wasn't very sharp. But, he was a "football" guy....or should I say a "foobal" guy? Heeeeeuuuuug.
Extremely disagree.
Dorsey is the sole reason we have the team we have now.
Whether you like to admit it or not.
His loss is huge. We may never get a GM of his calibre again.
Depo is a non factor in any of that, despite you trying to make it his imaginary job.
Is that extremely, or extremely, extremely disagree? Sorry sister, just making a joke.
Our team is worse than last years. Do you mean that team Dorsey built?
Would you prefer to go back to the team we had pre-Dorsey? I think not.
Oh Hey, let's start Tyrod and let Baker sit.
Then he messed up. He brought in OBJ and hand selected Freddie as his head coach of choice.
You are a businesswomen, the choices you make matter. If you choose a simpleton to lead your team, you are a simpleton as well.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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