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DePo seems to be the only brain in the building! People can know and understand football (or any sport) and NOT know every nuance about the game. Nobody here knows the extent of Depodestas football acumen.

I think it had a lot to do with the bathroom flow chart.

So let me get this straight. First you claim, "We don't know what happened". Then you go on to tell us what happened? Hmmmm....

He may have flown out for a visit.

Well, the first interviews are out on the west coast, so he is probably there along with the other members of the inner circle..

So he's in Cleveland on the west coast? Talk about mixed messages. I'm just messing with you Peen. Maybe you were referring to Cleveland California?

I've never heard of it.

Name me a GM that hasn't made a coaching blunder? Not minimizing the Kitchens mistake... it was a biggie for sure.. But it was a logical choice having just invested in a young QB that Kitchens seemed to really help..

As for all the bad roster moves,, yeah, again, name a GM that made all the right moves all the time. when you talk about his misses, shouldn't you balance that with his hits?

Just saying...

Then we have that roster the entire sporting world said was loaded with talent that he can't see.

No. The first message about feeling he was in Cleveland was made. The second go was me remembering the interviews are being done on the west coast this week, so maybe he wasn't in Cleveland when all went down.

To me it isn't a big deal. As of now all he is doing different from what he normally does is leading the coaching search. I don't think he has final say, even though I think Haslam will this go around. I am sure he will be in on the interviews. I don't even know if he will be asking a ton of questions. I think guys like Wolfe will be asking most of the questions.

I think Wolf will take over the GM role even if not formally. Maybe more a director of football operations. He is the football guy, plus scouting directors and the new coach once hired.

As for Depo...he still has the same title. I could see him at some point being team President.

No .. I'm saying the reports we do know are that 1.) Dorsey was called in and told he would have less Power 2.) Depo is leading the HC search 3.) Dorsey wasn't fired, there was a mutually agreed upon leaving 4.) Elliot Wolfe is staying

Other than the team president aspect I think we pretty much agree on the process.

McCarthy to Interview Thursday in Cleveland. Saleh to interview Saturday in California.

Cleveland's brass will head to Santa Clara, Calif. this weekend to interview 49ers defensive coordinator Robert Saleh, Rapoport reported, via a source. Former Packers coach Mike McCarthy will interview for the job Thursday.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001...coaching-search

tHe eNtIRe SpUrtiNg WoRld.

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That must be it.

So it would appear.

Hire McCarthy Thursday and save yourself a trip Saturday

DePodesta conducting the head coaching search is the best possible result given the circumstances. He is all about process. Make the right choice each step and you will most likely end with the best result. He is a process robot.

I cant help but feel we MIGHT have another week or more to play had we listened to him last off season...

We have to get the minority candidate interview out of the way before we can hire anyone.

I'm guessing that is the KC coordinator.

We are interviewing Robert Saleh on Saturday.

Forgot about him.

I think the Rooney rule had it's time, but I don't like it now. Too often we talk about getting the token interview out of the way.

It's 2020. I don't think there is any bias against having a person of color at QB or at head coach.

If we are having to have a token interview, then maybe we need to stop having them.

McCarthy needs to knock this out of the park on Thursday.

McCarthy/Wolf/Depo

Go Browns. Get it done so we aren't waiting for pieces that never land. We willed some assistants I suspect.

Build it right.

I agree Peen.

for sure, if anything it looks horrible on nfl and disrespects coaches of color. You think they don't know they are being interviewed to satisfy the Rooney Rule?

I don't know if there is or isn't bias against PoC as far as coaching hires, but the Rooney rule goes about it all wrong. Having to check an extra box during the interview process is degrading to the poor sap they end up interviewing (I'd say most of the time). I think the rule should go a layer deeper. The hot coaching candidates are ones that have enjoyed success at coordinator positions. Have the Rooney rule help more PoC get those opportunities.

I wish we would at least take a look at Chuck Pagano. He is top of my list followed by Jim Caldwell or Greg Roman.

I think the Rooney Rule is a good idea and is still needed. It gives PoC much needed opportunities to get interviews that they wouldn’t get otherwise. I believe Tomlin was a Rooney candidate.

The trend right now is to hire from the offensive side of the ball. The problem for the NFL is that most people of color are on the defensive side. They need to find a way to get more PoC in offensive positions so they can get promoted.

I don't believe in the Rooney Rule. I believe if you earn it, you'll get it.

There is no shortage of exceptional minority coaches in football. They got there because they are good. Not because of any other reason.

I am not a black person. But as a woman (different kind of oppressed person) I would be highly insulted if someone was forced to interview me because of gender and not because of my qualifications.

I find the Rooney Rule disgusting and insulting towards minorities.

I feel the same, but they had to break the good ole boys club up for the top jobs in the NFL, so I see why they did it.

You don't understand because you are not an oppressed person. Interviews because you are the token black guy are insulting to PoC.

I absolutely get that. I'm saying the problem of being systemically locked out of those jobs for the same reason was a bigger issue at the time.

Do you REALLY feel that token black guy interview result in token black guy hirings?

Come on man.

They hire who they want to hire based on ability. This is a league where a large percentage of players/coaches are black. If you are good at your job, you get hired.

Go ask Tomlin if he was a token black guy hire. He got hired because he was good.

That's the bottom line. Nobody hires someone who sucks just because of the color of their skin. You hire someone who you think will win. And there are plenty of minorities who can coach and win.

The end.

I have always felt the Rooney Rule was insulting towards minorities. It's like saying they can't compete. When clearly they can based on how many successful minority coaches there are.

It's just cringeworthy.

Tomlin certainly earned his job by his role as a d coordinator in Minnesota and the fact that he nailed his interview. My contention is as a lesser known candidate he got his opportunity to interview because of the rule.

We can agree to disagree. There are tons of black coaches in the league who got to their positions because they earned it and have coaching skills.

You can minimize it if you want, but I know better.

The Rooney rule hurts all colors of people... Lets just accept people and what they have to offer because of the person they are and what they can offer to a specific situation..

This type of rule is a reminder of what prejudice was back in the day. Going into 2020 I would hope that people are looked at for how they can help benefit a situation.

I have a girlfriend who is of different color then I. Her children are mixed. It's my first time being in this situation. I've been around more little black kids more then ever. They come to my house and we have so much fun.. Them kids don't care I'm white..and I don't care they are black..we all laugh and have a great time together. Them kids make me realize it's all about how we treat each other not the color we are.

It's all about who we are...The Rooney rule takes that away
it makes everyone think about color..not skill...jmo

And Rooney rule just says you have to interview...says nothing about hiring...which makes the interviews token and hollow