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I too believe the Haslams are working hard to get this right. They don't want to be the laughingstock of the league and I'm sure would like to be successful and win a Superbowl. If he has an ego as some say why would he want to fail? He didn't buy this team to lose and fail at it. They keep trying and this time I hope they get it right.


They aren't failing. Franchise value continues to go up by most accounts. People can laugh all they want to at the Haslams. The Haslams are laughing all the way to the bank. Keep donating suckers. LOL


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I don't know what the truth is within the walls of Berea - but it seems to me that the Haslams have taken a step back after their Petine/Farmer disaster where quite likely they were the root cause of the cancerous dysfunction that spread. I got the feeling that Dorsey 100% owned his draft and choice of HC last year - with no interference from the Haslams. Just how I read it, and if true, then I don't see what the problem is.

Forward 12 months - Freddie HAD to go. He was a total disaster and unprepared to be a HC. And as some of the things at the end of the season come to light, it reconfirms the problem. Nothing to do with the Haslams, just a fact of life.

I would have been happy to keep Dorsey - but I *suspect* that Dorsey would have been dangling in the wind until the next HC is selected. There is every chance if we get a 'top' candidate like McCarthy or (ugh) McDaniels - they will demand or insist that they bring in their own GM. . . . My take is Dorsey forced their hand and either wanted a commitment he'd be the man or he needed to part ways. So once Freddie was forced to go - Dorsey was in an bad situation. Letting him go is the cleanest way to move on.

For those slamming the Haslams - I guess I'd ask which HC would you have not fired?

Freddie? He's shown no improvement as a HC / Game caller / Game manager. Lost the team and players have no respect for him.

Hue - the 1-31 guy?

Petine / Farmer? - All on the Haslams, but total dysfunction within the organization. I liked Petine, but none of us knew (and probably still don't) know what was going on internally with Farmer and him. I think Petine's rise was too early/too swift. Wouldn't be surprised to see him as HC in the future.

Chud - other than this year with the last game of the season - I have never seen a team so completely quit before the end of the season. Haslams took over and I think 95% of new owners in that situation would want to clean house and start a new era.

Now ... Picking the WRONG team to run the organization? That's a pattern. And for those railing against Depodesta - at least we (seem to) know that his preferences for HC were better choices than the Haslams.... McDermott would have been a heck of a choice. I forget the other guy he wanted instead of Hue.

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I am close to where you are except for this season.

I bought into the roster. Felt we had a good team. I wanted the season to begin. Then I wanted it to end.

Football is filled with ego's. Kind of the nature of the game. Players, coaches, GM's and owners.

Haslam is no different.

I have no doubts that in his mind he wants to win. That is why you get in game. Ego. You have money. Sure you get more but really how much to you need if you have the money to buy a team?

Haslam has gotten a full dose of how hard it is to win. As a minority owner of the Steelers; it may have looked easy.

If people have long memories it was not so easy for Art Rooney.

Jerry Jones, Snyder and others have found out as well.

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Originally Posted By: Damanshot
If you want an answer, look to the fact that they are quick to change if they feel they've made a mistake and that they keep on trying.. They never quit.

Eventually, they will find the right people,,,


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It would be so like Haslam to hire Urban Meyer.

Which would sink this team further than it is.

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Why such disdain for Meyer?

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I don’t see any support for the Haslams. I think just about everyone knows what a dumpster fire they are. Hell, I think they even know it by the statement they made.




I support them. I don't question their desire to win.

I will send in my $3200 when my season ticket invoice arrives.


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I'm not going to go on some rant about the Haslams. It's been frustrating to say the least.

But when Dee Haslam says, "We bought this team because we thought it would be fun to have an NFL team," Dee said. "I don't know why we thought that, but we thought this will be a really fun, great chapter in our life.", and things like, "We don't know what we're doing"..... There's not a lot more that I could add to that. I actually find that level of honesty refreshing.

She admitted that they bought the team for *fun* and that they're clueless. A thought has been running through my mind for quite some time now and after seeing her comments, I've come to the realization that those thoughts are true.

Being a faithful fan of the Browns over the past several years is much like watching Roadrunner cartoons and rooting for Wile E. Coyote. You know how the ending is going to turn out before you ever bother to watch the cartoon. But for some reason you go through the motions anyway rooting for someone who you know in the end is going to lose.


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j/c...



This should be exciting, but I'm dreading it, instead.


There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.

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LOL.. I feel ya !!

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This should be exciting, but I'm dreading it, instead.


Don't dread it! We've ben through about 4 or 5 of these already.

We could probably give the speech for Jimmy by now.

"Candidly, Dee and I, as stewards of the franchise, are fully committed to getting this right no matter what it takes. Our fans are some of the most loyal fans in the NFL and they deserve a winner."

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This should be exciting, but I'm dreading it, instead.


Don't dread it! We've ben through about 4 or 5 of these already.

We could probably give the speech for Jimmy by now.

"Candidly, Dee and I, as stewards of the franchise, are fully committed to getting this right no matter what it takes. Our fans are some of the most loyal fans in the NFL and they deserve a winner."


Exactly. I don’t understand why anyone even bothers to watch/listen. Total waste of time.


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Maybe this will be like the one Dorsey had scheduled. It will get canceled then we'll hear that the Haslams and the Browns have agreed to part ways.


How does a league celebrating its 100th season only recognize the 53 most recent championships?

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Maybe this will be like the one Dorsey had scheduled. It will get canceled then we'll hear that the Haslams and the Browns have agreed to part ways.


You know that won't happen. Don't do that to us.


There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.

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For all Urban has accomplished; he has done nothing in the NFL.

There are no short cuts when it come to NFL experience.

The difference between the NFL and college is greater than between college and high school ball.

Nothing personal.

At best Urban presents the highest risk and the most time.

I am not interested in him learning the ropes.

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Urban is not coming here. It's the new Cowher looking at homes in Strongsville.

The topic just kills some time in the sports hot topic news cycle for today.

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Rinse and repeat.

If I thought for one minute that any of the local media covering this presser would ask a real question I would listen.

I would love for someone to be prepared and read back the Haslams past statements of hiring and firing.

And simple ask when they planned to get it right??

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Maybe the Haslams should be PAYING you to be a fan. It's only fair.they are giving you a poor product on the field.
Yet you are expected to pay full price and all you get in the mail is a thank you and 10 tickets.
Hey Dee let's charge this loyal fan from our great Volunteer State 3200.00 dollars. You
Know why CAUSE WE CAN AND WILL. !!!
Bad enough enough it's a 10 hr trip for you
At the very least the Haslams could send you
Gas and Hotel money.
The Haslams need to cut you and so many other fans a check.

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I know that has to be the frustration talking.

Nobody forces you or anyone else here to be fans of the Browns. It's a choice as to whether you're willing to pony up the $$ and emotions to follow this team.

Peen has chosen to follow that path just like many of us have. Although I don't put forth the type of financial investment Peen does, emotionally I'm no less invested. Nobody owes us a dime for choosing to be a fan and supporting this team.

Loyalty used to be considered a good trait. I have a limit to where I place my loyalty because at some point I expect what I give to be given in return. But at what point that is, is my choice and nobody owes me anything for the choices I make.


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Yet you are expected to pay full price and all you get in the mail is a thank you and 10 tickets.


Not true, we also got Browns knit gloves and socks this year!

A big step down from the coolers the previous year.

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Then we better not be hiring an OC or young person that lacks the experience of knowing what they need in colleagues in the FO.


There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.

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1st. Thanks guys for posting the tweets. Makes it much easier for some of us who can't watch video at work. Your posting is very much appreciated.

2nd. This might be a dumb question but who is actually going to be talking to these coaching candidates? Who do we still have in the building that can ask tough questions to a person like that? Wolf? Monkin?


There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.

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1st. Thanks guys for posting the tweets. Makes it much easier for some of us who can't watch video at work. Your posting is very much appreciated.

2nd. This might be a dumb question but who is actually going to be talking to these coaching candidates? Who do we still have in the building that can ask tough questions to a person like that? Wolf? Monkin?



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There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.

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