DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Depodesta needs to GO...

I disagree. But you can believe that imaginary stuff if you like.

If analytics is crap, why does nearly every team use it. If Depo had been listened to in some cases, coaching hires, we wouldn't still be in this mess. Dorsey, the football guy, hit on some and missed BADLY on some=RG draftee REAL high, bust- we need to use every tool, hope owners use analytics and not go with their guts- how's Johnny helped us......GO Browns!!!

Even so, it really isn't a deciding factor in NE

Football isn't rocket science. You have to draft guys that "fit" what systems you run on both sides of the ball, physical traits are part of it, but you gotta find the right attitude too. This is what anaylitics misses.

Size, Speed, physical attributes or so called "talent" isn't everything. Tom Brady is NOT the most talented QB in the NFL, and he NEVER has been. What Brady HAS been is the hardest worker, the most intense study, A student of the game, a guy that is always looking for ways to improve his game. The guy does mental exercises everyday FFS! lol This is what makes him the best. the BEST player is not always the most talented.

I would like to see a Union of agreement and same goals from all with in. Takes time to get all on board. Hopefully it comes soon.

Did you read that ESPN article, with quotes from people in the organization over the years Haslem has owned the team?

Ignoring something doesn't make it imaginary.

Great Atlanta pic, Eve. At least there fans get to look forward to some good stuff. This Podesta bomb that went off seems a bit overblown to me.

And Happy New Year.

Depos job is not to improve play on the field. His job is to provide statistical analysis on players. Getting they players to perform on the field is job of the HC and HC only.

J/C

Depo and his numbers are a tool (the wrench).

John Dorsey was the mechanic.

The mechanic changed the oil, but forgot to put the oil cap back on. The oil leaked out and the engine blew.

You don't fire the wrench, you fire the mechanic.

J/S

Dorsey wasn't a good thing.

We just need a different mechanic.

Depodesta's first draft?

Do you even have any idea what you're talking about?

he doesn't...just trolling by doubling down on something he knows nothing about. Countless people have posted articles about his so called first draft in which he was "observer only"

You do realize Depodesta wasn't the one drafting, right?

I could not agree more with that statement.

The Haslam's created this mess.
Besides what if anything has Depo done since coming here that one could hang their hat on enough to invest all the power in him?

It seems to me that everyone besides him has shouldered the blame since he arrived.

Why is he immune to excepting the failures of the past, in the present?

Depodesta isn't going to have all the power.

I think people are trying to place blame on Depodesta for things he has not done. He doesn't pick the players nor coach the team.

He recommended NOT hiring Hue and recommended NOT hiring Kitchens. Both were good recommendations.

That's kind of the thing isn't it?

The only things that seemed to have been leaked are "the good things" that everyone wishes to hang their hats on. Yet we have no clue about all of the bad do we?

Makes for a one sided debate.

I wonder which QB Depodesta thought we should draft 2 years ago.

The numbers said Mayfield was the best QB to come out in years. I'd imagine he felt Mayfield was the best, although that's not necessarily his "lane."

Numbers are exactly his game. Presenting the analytics in the process seems to be the only thing people agree on that is in his lane.

Mac is just chapped. He wanted Sashi and crew out the door, Then was giddy with Dorsey was hired.

He's mad because his football guy failed in a big way and we are seeing Depos name.

It's pretty funny. The problem is Mac and a few others will go crazy because Depo resides in their heads.

Jimmy and Depo will be a tag team for a long time. We just need to get the right coach and all will be right with the world.

I'd imagine under most scenarios unless we hired Gettleman, that we still would have drafted Mayfield #1. He was the best.

j/c...

Strong endorsement for DePo from Joe!...

That'll rattle a few cages...

OK....I'm sold...LOL

Joe is such a great ambassador for the browns.

It really sucks that we couldn’t even deliver this dude one playoff appearance.

Look, I love JoeT as much as the next guy... but his endorsements mean absolutely nothing. The guy, bless his heart, will endorse anything that is currently wearing a Browns logo.

I appreciate what he's trying to do... but what he's trying to do doesn't include giving an open and honest assessment on someone.

Joe said that Freddie should be fired when Freddie was still wearing a Browns logo (see the ThomaHawk show podcast).

You even gave Joe the "bless his heart" yikes!

Who said that he was against their hiring then? Why is this coming out after the fact?

Negitive evidence is no evidence to the contrary.

No one is trying to give DePo all of the power and to date there’s absolutely nothing that points to DePo trying a coup in Berea.

DePo probably isn’t being part of the blame game for most of us because what little we do know appears to show that the key decisions that have turned out to be colossal failures like hiring Hue and Freddie were done against his recommendations, recommendations that probably would have been the better route to go.

Anyway, I’m done with this thread. I don’t believe in reporting conduct to the refs but I’m done contributing to such an asinine topic when the creator keeps using homophobic slurs to make his case.

Its easy to claim NOW after the fact, that he was against those hirings, but now is just too convenient for happen sake.

I'm more referring to all the terrible QBs and coaches previous that Joe has given his endorsement.

I will say that I forgot about that on his Podcast, so thanks for reminding me. Perhaps now that he's away from the team he's a little more free with his real opinions. Still, he's working against past endorsements to the likes of Shurmer, McCoy, Quinn, etc.

Well, it wouldn't come out before the fact.

This info has been public for several years. It was current news when Hue was hired, when Freddie was hired. This didn't come to light in the last couple of days.

It was that he was against them You are the one saying that. Depo thought McDermott and Stefanski where who he would hire.

There is a big difference.