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Its always sounded to me like that is the allure of Stefanski. He can probably work with anyone. Ego issues seem to be well down the list of concerns.

That's my biggest concern as of now in this process. I understand how landing a proven NFL HC it would be smart to give some control over who the GM would be. In the case of McCarthy he is a proven winner and knows what it takes to build a team he needs to accomplish winning. He has most certainly earned the right to have that sort of input.

He has connections around the league and the resume' to attract quality GM candidates to work with him.

Once you get below that level of success, then one has to begin to question the experience of a candidate to make such a decision. It makes you wonder if they can actually attract a top GM candidate to work with them.

I don't think it's wise to move forward with both a HC and GM with limited experience at their respective jobs. And unless a HC has the experience to know what it takes to have a winning roster, the idea of using guess work to accomplish that same goal concerns me.

Respect is earned not given. Giving away such power to someone who has yet to earn that respect is a dangerous endeavour.

Saleh is my top choice of those that have interviews scheduled.

On More Sports with Les Levine they mentioned something about Haslam leaving the McCarthy interview to go give a press conference and pointed out that that doesn't bode well for candidate when the owner" leaves in the middle of the interview to get lunch"

I fear when it all shakes out we will again be sucking hind teet. Taking the inexperienced guy and saying what a great result we've gotten from our diligent search.

This is my fear as well.

I've heard conflicting reports on McCarthy's interview, but one thing I read is the Browns are leery of such an old school coach being able to change its stripes and adopt more analytics. Then you have Jimmy taking a break from the interview to do a presser. Oy vey. They make it so complicated.

It's a good thing their idiot son-in-law is a part of the process though. That should guarantee good results.

You have Dallas and the NYG searching for coaching. Those are top notch jobs! Hard to get more prestigious. Regardless of our roster coaching those two organizations probably trump the Browns position.

I think some of that will rest on what a guy like McCarthy thinks of Mayfield and the cap room of the perspective teams. Turning the Browns around has to be a tempting challenge to almost anyone confident in their abilities.

You'd certainly be the King of Cleveland and loved forever. Look at Kosar and he never really achieved anything monumental.

everyone said that about Freddie "ah shucks" kitchens.. The head chair changes people

If you listen to each of them talk I cant imagine you come away with the feeling that Kitchens and Stefanski are the same guy.

when freddie as an OC..yeah..they are very similar. The seems affable and easy going. True stefanski sounds a whole lot smarter. But an alabama accent doesn't help anyone. Just saying Freddie didn't seem ego driven as an OC. This isn't saying I dont like Stefanski, he's actually the guy I want if we don't get McCarthy and we go coordinator. If we get Stefanski and we are successful next year..Dorsey will have lost TONS of credibility in the league. I would double any team that relies on advance statistics and analysis won't touch him with a 10 ft. pole

Sometimes it takes the experience to figure it out. Unfortunately it seems that people within the Browns organization knew last year and still went with Kitchens.

for sure, which is why the guy that wanted stefanski is still here and the guy who wanted kitchens is gone..lol

Maybe Baker knew?

(This is a joke.)

He probably wasn't joking knowing we know now...

That was from 2018, and yes, it was a joke.

Amazed at any Dawg can trust a Haslam approach to any process , been so successful since 2013 !

He wants a winner in Cleveland ... check
He will put in the time and work ... check
He will spend the money ... Check

But the result's are ??

After all these years I have to say that I'm skeptical and jaded in terms of new HC hires. I'm not really on board with anyone other than McCarthy.

That doesn't mean that things won't change. But it has become what I consider a silly exercise researching all of these candidates when we often get someone hired out of left field that has no qualifications or is close to last on the list of who people think will be hired.

I didn't think Freddie had a chance in hell of being hired. I mean why? He had only been an NFL OC for six months?

So no, McCarthy is the only guy on the list who I feel is qualified to take on this mess. The talent is here but the attitude, dedication, devotion and will is sorely lacking. I'm not going to advocate the flavor of the month come in and tackle that.

Long but a good read, thanks for posting

The thing is the Haslams like Andrew Berry and I think he is a well spoken, sharp guy who knows scouting and understands what analytics brings.

This is where we have missed the boat. Haslam like analytics..he hired Sashi and Depo. Then he hired Hue, who didn't buy in to the plan. It didn't work.

Then he hired a strong Football guy who came in like everybody else was a POS, which is ok until he hired a nimrod as the coach.

Hire a coach who buys in to an analytical approach as a option, the bring in a GM who the coach agrees fits what he wants, and the GM is a football guy, which Berry is, he's just open to a guy like Depo offering input. Then the two work together with Depo and everything is groovy.

I think Dorsey ran Depo out of a more full time position in Cleveland....plus, what he does can be done anywhere. He can do his thing, he can be in Cleveland the next day if necessary, and present his input. People work from remote locations all over the world. It's not Depo or whoever has to punch a clock down at the plant....and that is no knock on people who punch clocks. I have punched plenty of clocks in my younger years. My Dad did until he and his partner started their own fabrication business. They had about 125 machinists, pipefitters, and welders, plus some shop help and front office help who did. Shop help was receiving, shipping, general labor, and clean-up, of which I was one of all starting at 14-15. The 6-8 engineers, 3-4 draftsmen, and office manager were salaried. There may have been a few other senior project managers on salary.

Me not that kind of orc...lol see who gets the ref

Something just tells me that as bad as we want a have a guy who has previous HC experience.. we're gonna go a different direction. Just a gut feeling.

I’m hoping that it’s just gas.

Hoping that this, too, shall pass. I would like to make sure we aren't waiting for learning curves somewhere over the rainbow in the middle of Lake Erie.
I would like to see us have traditional success first, HC, OC calling, DC calling and then we can get crappy stupid experimental later. Just the "New NFL Normal" for a change.

Jc

Can anyone else potentially see a disaster of a marriage between McDaniels and mayfield?

I just don’t know.

I can envision a disaster with McDaniels and (whatever you want to put here).

The Patriots wanted Baker before the draft. We hired Kitchens because he was Baker's buddy. Just hire the best person and see what happens.

I can’t say, personality-wise, but I think Mayfield would not only thrive in the Pats scheme, but would have a lot of the pressure off his shoulders to be the hero.

I think McDaniels would be able to Help Baker but doubt he will get the job.

This.

I just don't think McDaniels is the answer. I don't think he has it in him to get the players to rally around him. Similar to an Eric Mangini. Smart as heck, but just can't connect with people.

They will just hire another damn inexperienced head coach/mediocre coordinator!!

Go Bills!!!

I think all three of the perceived favorites (McCarthy, McDaniels, and Stefanski) will be able to help Baker. McCarthy has the credentials to develop a young QB, McDaniels knows how to adapt a scheme to best fit his personnel, and Stefanski puts players in the best position to succeed based on what they do well. All three are pretty good options.

We will end up with someone terrible.

I want a Marine Drill Sergeant like R. Lee Ermey. The OC/DC can set the game plan, I want a leader of men as HC.

I want Bozo the clown.

It seems rather apropos.

Interested to hear how the Robert Saleh interview went today.
He's my top candidate.

Haslam needs to reach out to Leslie Frazier after watching this Bills game. I mentioned Frazier earlier... That man has his Defense playing HARD!!