DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Browns now have clear shot at hiring Josh McDaniels as next HC

Just say no.

And he is NOT The highest qualified candidate - that would be McCarthy, hands down.

and a total failure as a head coach. why doesn't anyone want McCarthy ?

I worry about McDaniels for the same reason so many others do.

He has never had to be "the voice in the room". He has never had to be the guy who disciplines the team, or even his offensive side of the ball. That discipline is all created and enforced by Belichick. I think that's why so many of his coordinators have failed as head coaches.

We'll see what happens. I hope for the best, but am prepared for the worst ..... no matter who we hire. The bum at the top is unchanged, and I think that he is the biggest problem this team has.

The luck the Browns have on their side is they can get the McDaniels' interview out of the way and get McCarthy hired before someone else snatches him up

McCarthy made the Super Bowl as a head coach, McDaniels as someone else's lackey.

I do think people want him. Problem is certain people in Dallas or NY may want him more. Question needing asked is whether he, or any candidate wants Cleveland! THEY make their choices regardless of our wants.

Using that logic crap can Stefanski, Roman, Saleh or any other coordinators who have never held a head coach position.

Exactly.... It's about risk aversion. What we have seen of McDaniels as a HC was BAD. . . . *Maybe* he will be the next great HC - but there is nothing to indicate that. He may just as likely be the next great promising coordinator bust.

McCarthy did it as "The Man" ... Believe he is hungry and motivated.

I don't believe that to be true. Freddie had 1/2 of one season with someone else's playbook calling plays. Never before was he in any sort of coordinator role.

Stefanski has had 2 seasons worth of OC one as interim.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Stefanski

Would not be thrilled about McDaniels at this time .. More a McCarthy time for this Team..

I pray we don't.

I dont care he's our guy or not.

Belichick's road to NE was basically the same road as McDaniels is on. I bet NE fans were not so excited when Bill jilted the Jets and went there. I also bet they wouldn't trade those 6 Superbowls for anything.

II have reservations about him. Look at the way he stiffed the Colts.. I'd question if he'd do that to us.

Then look at his record in Denver. Not Stellar at all

Is he a good coach or is he a good follower of Belichick?

We've already had two of those..

This is the key. How responsible for NE's success are the assistant coaches? We simply do not know. It's not like that team's operations is an open book. Does McDaniels do more than get coffee and flip pages? Who knows?

If we are OK with a coach who happened to be at a bunch of super bowls, even if he was just along for the ride, then NE's staff has a bunch of them.

Just heard on 92.3 the fan that McDaniels interview has been moved up until sometime tomorrow.

I don't think there is any chance on that.. Anyone want to make a wager on that ?

I'm glad it's being done sooner.. Get this process done with and hire a HC whoever that may be

Exactly, if we come out of that interview and want McDaniels offer him the job right then and there, don't wait.

I'm guessing after tomorrow he belongs to one of them.

If the Haslams do not hire who Deposesta recommends the chances of that hire lasting for very long is not good, unless the Haslams move on from Depodesta.
This will be the 3rd coaching search since Depo joined the Browns and they have yet to go with his choice. If they do the same thing this time then they need to fire Depodesta because he is not worth whatever they are paying him.
My 1st choice would be McCarthy but I also liked the Hue Jackson hire at 1st but I soon changed my mind.
I also wanted Gregg Williams to get the job instead of Kitchens.
Whoever they hire must bring discipline to the team, be able to improve Baker, be a strong leader and buy into analytics or they won't last.
Either let Depodesta make this coaching hire or send Depo packing. Nothing else will work.

Two out of three choices that went against his suggestions were quite bad. Why would anyone assume DePodesta is always in the wrong? Not you, per se, just a lot of posters seem to dislike the guy without knowing exactly what he offers and, of that, what is ignored.

But what does Depodestas info say about him? Either its positive or negative. I don't think it's at all his choice but either they're going to use his analytics or they won't.

Another coaching thread.

According to sources he merely presents his findings and really isnt making the decision. I can only assume it's the way it'll go...

And the Browns ( Haslam ) will Brown again !,, Sorry , just no faith ..

yeah, i think we all have to be SHOWN and PROVEN that it is the right choice, not told

thought this was an interesting take:

Contract for Browns’ chief strategist Paul DePodesta, who is spearheading the team’s HC search process, expires this week, per sources. DePodesta still is wanted in Cleveland, very much. A HC/GM, and DePodesta, all signing contracts at same time could create more alignment.

If we hire McDaniels as HC we might as well and just fire him the next day and save us the trouble of doing it in a year or two. I want no part of the guy.

Nothing good about this is my opinion. I could be wrong but at this point I am hoping for McCarthy. The negatives to that is he will probably want a "yes man" GM. Also, if I remember correctly he likes to run a 3-4 defense which we are not built for right now. I could be wrong but I believe most of his defenses were middle of the pack at best. Still, he is a superbowl head coach with plenty of playoff experience.

McCarthy Please