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Well, top guy is now gone.

Browns are interviewing Brian Daboll today...

Brian Dumboll is a flat out average OC on his best day
He's never had a offense In the top 10 or even Top 5.
He really was underwhelming as a Browns OC
Much like all his stops

My guess is that Mike McCarthy was never under serious consideration.

My guess is that Mike McCarthy was never under serious consideration.

Sounds like we dodged a bullet.

Browns fans seem to view this franchise under Haslam's ownership and the odd way he has operates the franchise as an ideal location for all coaching candidates.

We lost the most qualified candidate which I completely expected.

Now it is back to never been a successful head coach.

The old gut feeling is McDaniels.

I would prefer Stefanski.

Assuming the worst. Daboll.

That's not weird or anything.

Quite possibly.

Here are some interesting nuggets from a B/R The Magazine piece done back on 4/4/19 titled "What Happened in Green Bay"(can't link due to profanity, so Google if anyone would like to read full article)...

....Or back further, to the NFC Championship Game on Jan. 18, 2015, when McCarthy coached with the ferocity of a sloth, calling for field goals from the 1-yard line twice in the first half and then running three straight times with five minutes left to infuriate his QB and effectively euthanize a Super Bowl season?...

...But even in the best of times—when confetti should've still been stuck to their clothing—one person who was then close to Rodgers remembers he would regularly call to vent that McCarthy didn't have a clue what he was doing. He'd tell him that McCarthy frequently called the wrong play. That he used the wrong personnel. That they were running plays that worked one out of 50 times in practice. That McCarthy was a buffoon he was constantly bailing out.

"Mike has a low football IQ, and that used to always bother Aaron," this source says. "He'd say Mike has one of the lowest IQs, if not the lowest IQ, of any coach he's ever had."...

One ex-Packers scout puts it on both. He describes Rodgers as an arrogant quarterback quick to blame everyone but himself—one who's "not as smart as he thinks he is"—yet kindly points out that McCarthy basically quit on his team.

...About once a week, a meeting would start up and McCarthy was MIA. Players weren't quite sure where he was while, for example, an assistant coach would run the team's final prep on the Saturday before a game. Eventually, word leaked that McCarthy, the one calling plays on game day, was up in his office getting a massage during those meetings...

I think the Daboll and Roman interviews (and perhaps to an extent Bielemany sp?) are simply to gather data/information about what these guys did to help elevate their young QBs in such a short period of time. In fact, I think we are interviewing so many people, in general, to see what ideas, concepts, traits, personalities, etc. keep rising to the top in terms of potentially successful head coaches even if there is a very small chance some of these guys get the nod.

We are possibly compiling as much information as we can to make an informed decision. What a concept.

My guess is that Mike McCarthy was never under serious consideration.

Which is absolutely ridiculous if you ask me. Superbowl winning coach. Multiple division titles, but yeah, let's hire McDaniels instead, who has a history of belittling his players and will probably switch us to a 3-4 defense which we dont really have the personel for

So I'll (arbitrarily) put the accuracy percentage of those blurbs you put up at roughly 50%. To be clear, that's entirely my gut feeling. I HIGHLY doubt all of that is true. There absolutely has to be one of those blurbs that's a complete whiff on the part of the author. You don't stick with a team for a while and win a Superbowl along the way when you're capable of all of that.

But I will say, I was surprised that McCarthy was getting so much love on here this offseason. I remember back to the hate he was getting when he was on the way out the door in GB. I remember his questionable and overly conservative playcalling being an issue (not only w/ Aaron Rodgers, but just the offense in general).

And that gets me to the actual reason I'm writing this post.... If you want a retread HC, that's fine. But you're hiring a guy that got fired for being bad at the job you're hiring him for (many of these guys are still packing up their old offices when you're interviewing them). There's more to it than that, but here we have (arguably) the tip top HC candidate that has previous NFL HC experience allegedly doing stuff on the same level as Kitchens. McCarthy lost his team (starting with his future HoF QB), and that's the main reason why we canned Kitchens.

If you really want to hire the next can't-miss HC, you gotta stay away from the retreads. And by that I mean guys that are older and have had multiple NFL HC positions. It's risky, but that's how you're going to find a guy that will stick for a long time.

I know many won't agree. I understand why they disagree, and can see why a guy like McCarthy (good and bad) can do some good with a team like Cle. Just kinda laying out a line of thinking that probably has a bunch of teams going the 'unproven guy' route.

Which is absolutely ridiculous if you ask me. Superbowl winning coach. Multiple division titles, but yeah, let's hire McDaniels instead, who has a history of belittling his players and will probably switch us to a 3-4 defense which we dont really have the personel for

and that would be Who????