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That's fair, but I'm pretty sure that everyone knows what's actually meant by 'nepotism' when it's mentioned with potential coaching hires (working together previously and the position coach doing a good job).

This hire would not surprise me one bit.

Would you like it or nah?

I think I could be ok with it. I kinda liked him years ago when we were looking.
Solid disciplinarian for sure. Not a fancy hire at all. Ultimately, I believe it's all a crap shoot.

Schwartz, Stefanski, McDaniels, Saleh are the 4 IMO ... it may depend if we want an O or D type leader

I can totally see it.

I think they're all in on Mayfield and the immediate future of the team rests with him. I haven't seen anything that would indicate that this owner looks at things with the long term future in mind. So my best guess is they they will hire an O coach or someone with the connections to hire a great O mind to run the offense.

No doubt, it IS a crapshoot. Not only the hire itself, but how the hire jives with our players and FO, and the staff he puts together. Crapshoot x4.

I do not like Schwartz, but I'll admit that a big part of that is that I think he's one of the most obnoxious (well-known) people that have stood on an NFL sideline. Guy gives baby-Harbough a run for his money in the obnoxious department.

I would take Schwartz for DC

Could happen....

Article on Stefanski, who interviews tomorrow...

Laying it on a little thick, aren't we Mr. Doerschuk?

If the team truly does want to take a data heavy approach, Jim Schwartz would a wise choice from that standpoint. I don't know enough about Schwartz when it comes to his leadership, scheme, and/or personality but he was reading Football Outsiders in 2004.

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/ramblings/2004/football-outsiders-interview-jim-schwartz

Great interview. Thanks for tracking this down.

+1, nice read there.

Article says none of the coaches still in the playoffs can be offered the job until their team is eliminated...supposedly the browns want to make a decision by Saturday so doesn't that eliminate Bienemy, Stafanski, and Saleh? Please enlighten me if this is wrong. Thanks.

Here's the playoff schedule for this weekend:

Vikings @ 49ers, 4:35 Saturday
Titans @ Ravens, 8:15 Saturday

Texans @ Chiefs, 3:05 Sunday
Seahawks @ Packers, 6:40 Sunday

One of Stefanski and Saleh will technically be available around 8pm Saturday. Would they actually make a hire on Saturday night? That seems unlikely. Then again it just says they want to make a decision by then, not necessarily a hire. It would seem odd to wait all this time, and make a decision before this weekend's slate of games concludes.

Making a decision and hiring a coach officially are two different things. The 49ers had to wait until after the Patriots/Falcons Super Bowl to officially hire Kyle Shanahan but they were in contact with him constantly to get his staff in place.

That's what the Colts did with McDaniels, and you saw what that them. When we announce someone .. I want them to be signed on the spot.

That's only happened one time ever and there were extenuating circumstances that made it a unique situation.

the problem is that our team finds a lot of ways to be "unique" when it comes to FO and coaching decisions, so its totally possible.

And IMO it would be a good hire. I think Schwartz is a good coach and the Detroit job wasn't exactly the best place to shine directly after Millan..

He walked in to a lot of semi good receivers, but little else.

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Marinelli in 2008 went 0-16 in Detroit...

Then Schwartz takes over in 2009.. his record was 2-14..

2010 6-10....2011 10-7 and in the playoffs losing to the Saints 45-28

2012 4-12...2013 7-9... Then Caldwell took over...

Some people think that Matt Millen was the GM during Schwartz time in Detroit but it was actually Martin Mayhew

I know. That is why I said directly after Millan. Millan was canned, Schwartz coached the next season with a Millan team at his offering.


Not sure what happened after the 10 win playoff year.

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Just had this idea. McDaniels groomed Jimmy G.

So the Boston Sports Journal's Greg Bedard is saying there are rumors of Belichick possibly leaving the team. Anyone hearing anything about this?

Well they have been grooming Josh to inherit the throne. Maybe the threat of him leaving is making dominos fall.

I would hate to be the guy to take over from Belichick. All you can do is fail by comparison.

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So I am a little higher on Schwartz than I was a week ago. What he has done with the Eagles D can't be ignored. I also like that there could be some ease of acquisition concerning the GM position as Berry would most likely come with him. And so I don't see a power struggle as the Chain of command would be similar to what it was in Philly.

Another thing...And I don't know if this belongs here or in the Assistant Coach Thread....But...The rumor is that if Saleh is the choice...He will bring Mike LaFleur and/or Mike McDaniel with him as the OC. That means Shanahan's offense. and frankly, I can't think of a better offense for Baker, Chubb, and Hunt than Shanahan's play action. This intrigues me quite a bit. Obviously you don't hire the HC based on his "proposed" assistants... I think Saleh has his own qualifications...I just like this possibility...

I can't shake this feeling that if we hire McDaniels that he'll spend 1 year here, BB retires, and he scoots back to NE. Especially if that 1 year is less than stellar.

With the options left I like Schwartz - but a Saleh, McDaniel pairing would be very interesting.

Scoot back? How is he scooting back if he's under contract?

On the other hand. If he's here and does good I can't see any reason to leave.

I probably would forge my own trail than to try and go down the Belichick highway.

Saleh and Company. That could be interesting. Trying to work at trusting the deciders to get it right while hoping Dee and Company don't blow it up. But at least we will look prettier.

Let's stop sweating so much babble about culture and so many intangibles. Just seem to be getting in our own way as we expand searches. Winning will sort out a lot of the noise and drama the media delights in visiting upon us endlessly.

I wholeheartedly agree with you that the Shanny offense would be amazing with out offensive roster. However, we don't call it the 'Shanny Offense' for no reason. Would we actually get that if we brought in his #1 clipboard holder? I'd be really hesitant to bring in anyone other than Shanny to run his offense.

Our O-line would need to be overhauled (needs to be anyway) to successfully run Shanny's offense. You need quick, agile linemen to run his zone-blocking schemes.

Well considering that both of those guys were here in Cleveland with him...then went to Atlanta with him...and are now with him in San Fran. I think it is reasonable to say that it would be Shanny's Offense.

Hey...that doesn't mean they won't try to bring in wrinkles of their own...But the Philosophy,Language, Play Design and Execution would probably hold fast to the Shanahan Offense.