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Saw a report that they had 1500 pound warheads and traveled about 200 miles. No damage assessment

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second wave of missiles just launched from Iran.

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second wave of missiles just launched from Iran.



And?

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second wave of missiles just launched from Iran.



And?


Don't know.
Iran has scrambled their airforce and we have launched F-35's from the UAE and I couldn't hear the other launching site.
I assume our counter strike is enroute.

Also, Hezbollah noted a couple hours ago that they were waiting for Iran to strike and then they were going to strike.

Our president is supposed to speak later tonight...

Unfortunately, Iran says that if we counter, they will strike our base in Dubai and northern Israel and more bases in Iraq

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Good read here - insightful.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-51021854

Interesting paragraph here - showing what trump managed to undo with his knee jerk reaction ....

Only seven weeks ago, Iran witnessed the most violent anti-government demonstrations in decades. Security forces killed anywhere between 330 and 1,500 protesters in more than 100 cities across the country. Thousands more were injured and arrested.


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https://twitter.com/ShimonPro/status/1214718087565586434

!!! US official tells CNN that there are no reports of US casualties at this time but an assessment is still underway. @barbarastarrcnn

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Originally Posted By: northlima dawg
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Originally Posted By: northlima dawg
second wave of missiles just launched from Iran.



And?


Don't know.
Iran has scrambled their airforce and we have launched F-35's from the UAE and I couldn't hear the other launching site.
I assume our counter strike is enroute.

Also, Hezbollah noted a couple hours ago that they were waiting for Iran to strike and then they were going to strike.

Our president is supposed to speak later tonight...

Unfortunately, Iran says that if we counter, they will strike our base in Dubai and northern Israel and more bases in Iraq


If they strike in Dubai or Isreal, their country is pretty much done. That would be a really stupid thing to do.


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https://twitter.com/JZarif/status/1214736614217469953

"Iran took & concluded proportionate measures in self-defense under Article 51 of UN Charter targeting base from which cowardly armed attack against our citizens & senior officials were launched.

We do not seek escalation or war, but will defend ourselves against any aggression."

Iran signaling that the ball is in Trump's court now...


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i always find it funny when i see people pick and choose what point of history they want to start at.

i keep seeing "since 1978" with regards to Iran, not only on this board but on social media.

Hey Arch, since you want to go into the past now, can you explain to the entire board - in your own words - what happened in 1953 between Iran and the US?

thanks.


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Trump needs this distraction and will not be able to claim victory if he stops after Iran launched missiles at US Bases. Will he choose what's best for the country and military or his own interest?

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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
Trump needs this distraction and will not be able to claim victory if he stops after Iran launched missiles at US Bases. Will he choose what's best for the country and military or his own interest?


According to the video he will do what he thinks is best for re-election


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i always find it funny when i see people pick and choose what point of history they want to start at.

i keep seeing "since 1978" with regards to Iran, not only on this board but on social media.

Hey Arch, since you want to go into the past now, can you explain to the entire board - in your own words - what happened in 1953 between Iran and the US?

thanks.


Lol asking arch’s take on Middle East history is like asking a 5 year old to explain Quantum physics.


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*fingers crossed*

Bad bad man is dead ... Iran gave us the off ramp ...

Please take it Mr. President ... you’ve all ready given them a ton of rope, give them a little more and take the off ramp ...




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This is a good thing. Now, Trump and the u.s. need to back away.

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Originally Posted By: tastybrownies
From experience it seems all liberals know how to do is appease and bargain not go on the offensive. Whatever the reason, that's why people call them scared. They don't have the spine to do what's needed in the heat of the moment.

That being said, flatten them, make them glass.


It appears Trump isn't listening to you. Today he blinked. He threatened Iran if they did anything. Well they did something alright. They attacked a U.S. military base.

Today he called on NATO, you know, the people he's been attacking and alienating since he became president, to step in and try to help calm things he set fire too.

He is actually doing something smart in this case. Unless or until he changes his mind tomorrow.


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We should all know by now to just wait and see when it comes to anything dealing with the Middle East.

The only credit I give trump right now is that he didn’t pull a “mission accomplished” blunder like bush did.

For now.


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Trump threatens attacks on 52 sites if Iran retaliates for Soleimani killing

Trump tweeted the targets "WILL BE HIT VERY FAST AND VERY HARD" if Iran retaliates for the killing of Qassem Soleimani.

"Let this serve as a WARNING that if Iran strikes any Americans, or American assets, we have.........targeted 52 Iranian sites (representing the 52 American hostages taken by Iran many years ago), some at a very high level & important to Iran & the Iranian culture, and those targets, and Iran itself, WILL BE HIT VERY FAST AND VERY HARD," he said. "The USA wants no more threats!".

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/trump-threatens-iran-attacks-52-sites-n1110511

Then we have what he said today. Bi-polar is real folks.


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Well the story he tells changes from day to day. It's why nobody can trust a thing he says and all we can do is see what tomorrow brings.


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A perfect analogy I read this morning.
“Watching this presidency is like being tied to a chair while a toddler plays with a loaded gun.”


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Where are all the Trumpians today after he lied to them and all of America again? No defenders?


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Where are all the Trumpians today after he lied to them and all of America again? No defenders?


What did he lie about? About hitting targets if Iran did anything? Iran launched rockets into sand near a base. No one was killed.

I would think you would be happy the u.s. didn't retaliate. I guess not?

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Trump got this.

Market agrees. Soaring.

World leaders chiming in with applause.

Back to my nap while your hair smolders.

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I am happy we didn't retaliate. But it appears you either don't know what he claimed he would do or aren't aware they didn't land in sand near our bases. They hit our air bases.

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Iran has launched what it promised would be a 'crushing revenge' strike against the US over the death of General Soleimani - but succeeded only in damaging two airbases in neighboring Iraq.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...oops-based.html


Iran fires missiles at US targets in Iraq: All the latest updates

Iranian missiles hit two Iraqi bases hosting US troops amid rising tensions following US killing of Iran's Soleimani.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/01/i...7235228432.html

Your "landed in the sand" BS is just that, BS.

And here's what Trump claimed he would do if Iran took such actions...

Trump threatens attacks on 52 sites if Iran retaliates for Soleimani killing

Trump tweeted the targets "WILL BE HIT VERY FAST AND VERY HARD" if Iran retaliates for the killing of Qassem Soleimani.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/trump-threatens-iran-attacks-52-sites-n1110511

So you keep making excuses why he can't seem to stick to a story for more than two or three days at a time. Keep acting like Iran hit sand when they attacked our air bases. I never actually expected reality to mean anything to you.


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You haven't valued the truth for a long time. He lies to you over and over again and puts the world on the edge of war. And all you care about is your wallet.


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So, the 52 targets thing was on the 5th? Today is the 8th. The iranians bombed on the 7th. Hit nothing of value, gave a warning even, from what I've heard.

And.................? You're upset the U.S. didn't retaliate???????????????????????????????????????????

Call it a lie if you want. I call it good judgment.

Your bias is showing exactly what you are. Thanks for yet more affirmation.

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You woke me for that???

The President has the CIA and NSA with spies, satellites, on the ground information and a whole host of information to make his decisions.

You have your hair on fire, tears and your mouth.

Trump got this.
You don't.

Now where was I? Oh yea,
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I had no idea that American Air bases were something you now consider "nothing of value".

Affirmation? You mean when you support Trump when he claims he will bomb the hell out of a country AND support when he does a turn about face?

rofl

I just want him to have a brain all of the time and not once every three or four days.


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Whoa whoa whoa. You’re claiming it was a good decision by trump not to retaliate to the retaliation because nothing of value was damaged.

By your OWN logic then, why did you support the assassination of the Iranian general, even though no Americans were injured or dead because of the protest?

Show some damn consistency and stop being a damn hypocrite. And by the way, still waiting on you to explain to the board what happened in 1953 between Iran and the US.

Stop being fake.


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The President has the CIA and NSA with spies, satellites, on the ground information and a whole host of information to make his decisions.


Oh, you mean what he called a part of the deep state? The people he didn't trust and took the word of Putin over? Those people?

Once again typical Trumpian. When he calls them the deep state and doesn't trust them you agree with him. When he spouts what they say as gospel you agree with him.

No wonder native Americas said white man speak with forked tongue.


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Oh dear, once again you cry when he listens to the CIA and you cry when he doesn't. Try picking what you cry about and being consistent in why the tears flow.

Perhaps they flow in order to put out the flaming hair.

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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
I had no idea that American Air bases were something you now consider "nothing of value".

Affirmation? You mean when you support Trump when he claims he will bomb the hell out of a country AND support when he does a turn about face?

rofl

I just want him to have a brain all of the time and not once every three or four days.


I'm sorry you are upset the u.s. didn't retaliate for bombs killing no one.

I think not retaliating is a good thing.....you are appearing to be a war monger.

I'm not certain I supported Trump claiming he would bomb the hell out of a country, and I'm not certain he even said it.

What I AM certain about is you make up lies.

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Yet again you lie. I already stated I'm glad he didn't retaliate. But you of course know you're lying. That doesn't surprise me considering the source.

It was all the lies and chest pumping he did trying to act like a tough guy that you won't admit or own up to. As per usual trump's lies are someone elses fault. He had been lying for days to pander to people like you and 40. Many of his supporters approved of every word he said. Now suddenly they wish to point the fingers at others because he backed away from what they were approving of. Sad really.


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Yes, even though I quoted him saying he had 52 Iranian targets if they retaliated, you're not sure he even said it.

rofl


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Whoa whoa whoa. You’re claiming it was a good decision by trump not to retaliate to the retaliation because nothing of value was damaged.


Yes. You don't support that?
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By your OWN logic then, why did you support the assassination of the Iranian general, even though no Americans were injured or dead because of the protest?
Because apparently he's a know terrorist in charge of proxie militia that has killed hundreds of Americans in the armed forces. You know, your brothers.
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Show some damn consistency and stop being a damn hypocrite. And by the way, still waiting on you to explain to the board what happened in 1953 between Iran and the US.

Stop being fake.


I'm not fake, thanks. I might ask you the same question, but I won't.

What happened in 1953? Some 15-16 years before I was born? The cia helped overthrow the iranian gov't.

What's the point you were trying to make?

(again, you are notorious for saying "that happened before I was born, how would I know? Or that happened before I could vote, so whats it matter?)

I'll leave it up to the middle east experts on this board from here on.

Got pit ticked the u.s. isn't bombing iran back, you going all......swish.


We killed a terrorist. Iran retaliated, killing no one. Things could simmer down, yet people are upset about it simmering down? Pathetic.

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Oh dear, once again you cry when he listens to the CIA and you cry when he doesn't. Try picking what you cry about and being consistent in why the tears flow.

Perhaps they flow in order to put out the flaming hair.



Talk about hypocrisy. You and the rest of the clueless trump supporters always claimed the intelligence agencies were the deep state.....until all of a sudden, they aren’t. And yet you and others blindly follow whatever is told to you by said agencies when it comes to Iran and the Middle East.

It would be funny if it wasn’t so destructive.


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Got you in denial of what Trump said he would do and claim our military bases in the middle east are "sand".

You've never been worthy of my ire. Only my laughter.


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
Yes, even though I quoted him saying he had 52 Iranian targets if they retaliated, you're not sure he even said it.





Um..........everyone knows he said that.

What was never said, or asserted, was that he would bomb the hell out of iran. That's you making things up. Again.

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Originally Posted By: archbolddawg
We killed a terrorist. Iran retaliated, killing no one. Things could simmer down, yet people are upset about it simmering down? Pathetic.


More lies. Trumpians playing follow the leader.


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Originally Posted By: archbolddawg
Um..........everyone knows he said that.

What was never said, or asserted, was that he would bomb the hell out of iran. That's you making things up. Again.


Where do you think those Iranain cultural sites are? Italy? Come on man, quit playing dumb. You are playing, right?


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Got you in denial of what Trump said he would do and claim our military bases in the middle east are "sand".

You've never been worthy of my ire. Only my laughter.


Okay. Good.

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