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Obama subsidized Soleimani's campaign of terror.
Trump killed him.

j/c

So we have a small group of people in denial about the lies of Trump and the empty threats he made. About how he is the typical bully who yells the loudest, but when smacked in the mouth crawls back into his hole.

They believed the initial lies of the alt right media claiming that the Iranians, "Only hit sand". And of course they spread that false propaganda on the board.

Hit sand? False!

https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/2...ack/2848890001/

There are the satellite images of the missile strikes that hit their targets. A lot of damage was done.

Now let's get to the part about casualties. Now either Trump supporters either have to admit he is a liar or a lot of what is being claimed on this board are lies. Take your pick.

In Trump's very own news conference he made the claim that the reason there were no casualties was due to our early warning system. That troops had moved into bunkers to avoid casualties. So one either believes that or the BS that's now being spread among the alt right that Iran, "Didn't mean to inflict any casualties". You can't have it both ways.



I had one poster claim that Trump didn't threaten to bomb Iran if they retaliated. That of course was a lie as is demonstrated above. Of course he tried to claim that hitting sand wasn't a U.S asset and that he didn't believe that Trump threatened to bomb Iran if the if they retaliated. They instead actually hit a U.S. air base which certainly qualifies as a U. S asset and the statement above by Trump plainly says he will bomb Iran if they retaliated.

So now let's get to The big Trump lie in all of this.



So let me get this straight. It was Trump who threatened them if they retaliated. He threatened that if they hit a U.S, asset, he would do all of those things he threatened in the above quote by him. They did strike a U.S. asset in the form of a U.S. military base. Trump decided to do nothing in response and it was, "Iran who stood down"??? Once again, Trump is lying.

Just like the school yard bully that yells and puts forth threats, once he gets smacked in the mouth he runs away and claims it's the other side that backed out. He has too much pride to admit it was he himself who backed down. But that's the world we live in in the new nation known as Trumplandia.

Now let's get to the actual results here. It's a good thing that Trump has decided to try and use diplomacy rather than school yard tantrums. It's a good thing that he has decided to get NATO involved. You know, the same people he has been berating and the same group he has threatened to pull our nation out of.



Obama used diplomacy and had the entire thing settled down until the blunders of Trump that had us on the verge of war. It's a wonderful thing he is learning form Obama's example.

But make no mistake, the next time you think of mentioning "Obama's red line in the sand", Trump has his own red line that was also crossed.

And your wife hasn't divorced you yet!!!???

There’s that 0 + 0 = 0 math that is way to complicated for posters like Pit ...

Don't let facts get in the way of your devotion.

Ukrainian airplane shot down by mistake by Iranian anti-aircraft missile, Pentagon officials believe

The Ukrainian passenger plane that crashed shortly after taking off from Tehran’s international airport Wednesday was shot down by mistake by an Iranian anti-aircraft missile, Pentagon officials told Fox News.

The revelation comes as Ukrainian investigators reportedly are awaiting permission from Iranian authorities Thursday to examine the crash site and look for missile fragments. Iran has denied that a missile took down the Boeing 737 bound for Kiev, and its officials have blamed a technical malfunction for the aircraft’s demise.

"A strike by a missile, possibly a Tor missile system, is among the main (theories), as information has surfaced on the internet about elements of a missile being found near the site of the crash," Oleksiy Danilov, secretary of Ukraine's Security Council, told Ukrainian media. He did not elaborate on where he saw the information.

President Trump, when asked Thursday about what could have happened to the Ukrainian International Airlines flight, said “someone could have made a mistake on the other side.”

https://www.foxnews.com/world/ukrainian-...ficials-believe

So they haven't been able to investigate the scene or look at the black boxes, but they know what happened?

The Military and CIA probably picked it up on their satellites.

You must have missed it on yours.

You also didn't comprehend what was said in the title...

Pentagon officials believe

And there's a high likelihood that's what happened.

Guessing scenarios it sounds like. I find it odd that Iran would shoot down a plane taking off from inside Iran. Being a Ukrainian flight, I wouldn't put it past Putin.

Says the guy who worships a misogynist like a sheep.

So, 3 of the (no one knows how many missiles were sent) 12-15, to dozens of missiles sent, hit something? After Iran warned they were going to send missiles at a specific time?

Firstly, Trump said it was our emergency warning system that prevented American lives from being lost. Not some phantom warning from Iran. That's nothing but more of the exact type of unsubstantiated rumors you spread.

And at least five missiles hit the base from the reports I have seen. Of course you will want links and evidence which I will be happy to provide even after I've shown your "hitting sand" and other comments were wrong.

Here's a link to the satellite image showing the five locations which were hit before you start squawking. Where each missile hit is circled showing the damages. It would really help you to be more informed before making such assertions in the future.

https://www.npr.org/2020/01/08/794517031...-assad-air-base

Didn't see this being discussed:



https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/eur...9860_story.html

Wonder if it’s one of those missiles that good old Olly North sold them illegally all those years back?

No idea what you are talking about...

Care to elaborate on how Obama subsidized him?

Rumor is It was older so it may have been ...

Either that or it was part of the gift O gave them .....

Thank god they didn’t have your hero’s windfall when Ollie was doing business with them ...

You mean the money we had owed them since 1979?

NO, they bought those with the plane load of money big o sent them.

You mean their money? The money we held on to for years while also withholding the goods we "sold" them?

Don't try to bring facts to the table. It won't work.

Your memory is short.
Do you also forget not voting in 2016?

Iran shoots down a commercial airliner.
50+ Iranians died in a stampede at the generals funeral
No Americans killed in their missile attack.

Iran isn't very good at war.

Not a fan of the president but the amount of people on social media blaming him for the airliner is bazaar.

Agreed. But it's not just social media. The so called main stream media is doing it also.

Really? I haven’t watched the news today. I did read on Twitter that Mayor Pete gave partial blame to us.

Innocent civilians are now dead because they were caught in the middle of an unnecessary and unwanted military tit for tat.

My thoughts are with the families and loved ones of all 176 souls lost aboard this flight.

@PeteButtigieg

All the Dems are butthurt because Trump had a spine with Iran while Obama was scared crapless to deal with them.

How is that a good thing?

Hundreds were still killed.

Pffft . I won’t say it.

Ok I’ll play the spin game....With Obama...no war with Iran and no nukes. With trump .....escalating war, people die and Iran gets nukes.

Finally, I believe Iran shot it down, but Iran denied it. According to trump era rules we’ll need first hand undeniable collaborating evidence right? Or does that only go one way in the trump era?

Here's the video of the plane being blown out of the sky courtesy of the NY Times...

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/09/world...;pgtype=Article

So Iran shot down a plane full of Iranians. Are you saying that people in the Middle East were peaceful and did not kill their own (or anybody else) while Obama was President? If so, you must be mental.

You mean like when he threatened if they retaliated he would bomb them and their cultural sites? And then he backed down? That spine?

Here ya go, you can read all about Obama's war strategies:

https://www.latimes.com/projects/la-na-pol-obama-at-war/

So, are you saying you would prefer that he bombed them and their cultural sites? Spin Spin Spin.

I'm showing you direct evidence of just how wrong you were trying to claim Trump has a spine.