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Well, as The MMQB's Albert Breer shared this week, McDaniels' decision to return to New England had to do with some of the football operation logistics that weren't ironed out with Indianapolis, which deterred him last-minute from joining the Colts.
"It had everything to do with stuff that fans don't care about," Breer told The Ross Tucker Football Podcast. "How is strength and conditioning going to set up? Who does medical report to? How does video work? It was all these structural things that, as much work that (Chris) Ballard and Josh (McDaniels) had done and said 'okay, this is how we are going to set it up," somehow, they didn't get around to doing all of that. And Ballard had come form a place and places where the general manager set that up, and Josh had come from a place where the coach had power over all of that. That's where it sort of fell apart.
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I often times wonder how that line of thinking works in the minds of others.
NFL owners sign contracts with players they are never required to honor for the length of their contract. That doesn't seem to be an issue with most fans. Only the guaranteed portion of the contract means anything and the rest of it isn't worth the paper it's written on.
Now unless I'm sadly mistaken here, nobody is obligated to perform a job unless and until a contract is signed. There is no obligation to sign a contract. So does anyone actually accept a job until they sign a contract?
Now I'm not a fan of McDaniels becoming our next HC. Nothing about his actual track record that doesn't fall under the BB skirt impresses me. Unless he's done a complete personality makeover I don't think he's the man for the job. But that's neither here nor there for the purpose of this discussion.
Agreeing in principal to a contract and signing a deal are two different things. So I guess it all boils down to this..... Was a lot of what transpired the fault of Irsay and the Colts, or McDaniels? I mean what kind of business strategy is it to start hiring people in advance to work with a HC who isn't even under contract?
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I often times wonder how that line of thinking works in the minds of others.
NFL owners sign contracts with players they are never required to honor for the length of their contract. That doesn't seem to be an issue with most fans. Only the guaranteed portion of the contract means anything and the rest of it isn't worth the paper it's written on.
Now unless I'm sadly mistaken here, nobody is obligated to perform a job unless and until a contract is signed. There is no obligation to sign a contract. So does anyone actually accept a job until they sign a contract?
Now I'm not a fan of McDaniels becoming our next HC. Nothing about his actual track record that doesn't fall under the BB skirt impresses me. Unless he's done a complete personality makeover I don't think he's the man for the job. But that's neither here nor there for the purpose of this discussion.
Agreeing in principal to a contract and signing a deal are two different things. So I guess it all boils down to this..... Was a lot of what transpired the fault of Irsay and the Colts, or McDaniels? I mean what kind of business strategy is it to start hiring people in advance to work with a HC who isn't even under contract? Good post. It struck me as odd that the minutae of the day to day structure of support staff and who controlled that mentioned in the middle of that excerpt was what caused the deal to unravel. I just don't know that I'm ready to buy that yet. I guess I could see it as McDaniels potentially being that much of a micro-manager and Irsay saying "No, that's ok, we'll handle all that, we just want you focusing on coaching". As to hiring all the people below McDaniels prior to him signing? Without knowing the make up of the positions, on the face of it I'd say it looks like a good faith gesture on the part of the Colts to go ahead and start getting what McDaniels wants implemented ASAP.
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Seems weird to bring your wife if it’s just an interview, right? Or am I just over analyzing?
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Dustin Fox on Bull & Fox Show (92.3 The Fan) saying that Haslam is sending his private jet to pick up McDaniels for his interview tomorrow. How he knows this, I have no idea, but Fox seems pretty dialed in on McDaniels, maybe because they're both Canton boys.
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Seems weird to bring your wife if it’s just an interview, right? Or am I just over analyzing? I wouldn't argue but remember she's from very close to there.
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Seems weird to bring your wife if it’s just an interview, right? Or am I just over analyzing? His wife is from Parma, Ohio, which is a SW suburb of Cleveland. Its a chance for a family visit, maybe a belated Christmas celebration.
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It's McDaniels team now. It's time to give him the keys, let's do it.
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Front office and scouting might be at risk but he isn't gutting the roster. Alot need to go but I'm guessing its still fairly similar next year.
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Seems weird to bring your wife if it’s just an interview, right? Or am I just over analyzing? I buy what the article says: In order to make a quick decision, should an offer be extended.
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A local Radio station here in Canton did a phone interview with CLNS MEDIA's MIKE PETRAGLIA a Patriots reporter that is also from Canton. He mentioned one reason he didn't go to Indy was because his wife didn't like the Indy area.. But would be fine with Cleveland. link Scroll down to where you see CLNS Media's Mike Petraglia. ..He has some good stuff to say..of course he admits it's speculation.
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Either he's going all out to persuade McD or it is indeed a done deal. I feel the NYG knew it earlier in the week.
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Mike Lombardi was on Bull & Fox saying there have been ongoing conversations between the Browns and McDaniels since this past Tuesday.
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crfs sent this post about what McDaniels learned from his Denver job. I thought it was interesting because it was well known how he alienated people in Denver.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2666...-pick-his-spots
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Was listening to Bull and the Fox and Dustin Fox said his inside sources say McDaniels is hyped, pumped, has plans and everything to present.
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People can change. If he really listened to his dad and if he's ANYTHING like his dad there's a good man in there.
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If McDaniel loves the position so much, why wait this entire week to meet with Browns?
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If McDaniel loves the position so much, why wait this entire week to meet with Browns? Maybe he wants to be their last interview. This really could be considered their 3rd interview with him if they have spoken numerous times already.
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Prior to reading the article I was not interested in McDaniels.
The article was well written and made sense. Coming from where he did at 33 years old. It is easy to imagine him acting the way he did.
Ten years later wiser, and more mature. He could be a good head coach.
He has a great background of knowledge. He is well connected. And now could be ready to make his mark.
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If McDaniel loves the position so much, why wait this entire week to meet with Browns? This was the day that was originally scheduled.
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If McDaniel loves the position so much, why wait this entire week to meet with Browns? Maybe he wants to be their last interview. This really could be considered their 3rd interview with him if they have spoken numerous times already. Or maybe the Browns wanted him to be the last interview
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Prior to reading the article I was not interested in McDaniels.
The article was well written and made sense. Coming from where he did at 33 years old. It is easy to imagine him acting the way he did.
Ten years later wiser, and more mature. He could be a good head coach.
He has a great background of knowledge. He is well connected. And now could be ready to make his mark.
Think we have to hope this is the case - it feels like this is a done deal.
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People have said that perhaps the reason MCDaniels did not stick in Indy was he heard that Luck may not be able to play and would retire 18 months later. I do not think anyone knew at that time, not Luck, not Irsay, and not McDaniels that Luck would not be back. The backup QB in Indy at that time and now the starter, was Jacoby Brissett, a one time Patriot backup who WON games for New England, and McDaniels, when Brady was injured.
McDaniels might have changed, I just do not care for someone who goes back on his word like he did and leaves people that he told the Colts to hire for his staff out to dry, with a word of warning or apology.
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So Jimmy hires Josh and all the rest was basically a smoke screen ?? Sounds about right. Just can't handle that fact Haslam owns my TEAM !
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So Jimmy hires Josh and all the rest was basically a smoke screen ?? Sounds about right. Just can't handle that fact Haslam owns my TEAM ! I'm not so sure it was a smoke screen. McDaniels had other interviews set up too. I'd rather have Haslam than Jerry Jones. Especially after he kept Garrett hanging .. then brought in Lewis for an interview to cover Rooney rule .. then hired McCarthy the next day. I don't blame Lewis for being pissed.
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I am hoping for Schwartz.
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Sure seems like this will be McDaniels’ job very soon
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He interviews today in Berea. It has been said they want this wrapped up by Saturday.
I am sure they have already whittled the pervious interviews down to the top candidate. Now it's a matter of how McDaniels compares to that candidate.
After the interview the group won't have to discuss the merits of 8 candidates. It will just be two. That shouldn't take all that long...maybe a hour? Maybe just 15 minutes.
It's probably going to boil down to what sort of demands the final two have laid out to the group. Demands in the way of authority, contract length, etc.
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He interviews today in Berea. I think he has been 'interviewing' for the past week or so.
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Can't go with Depodesta if he says Stefanski on this. He's not in the building. Can't trust him.
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way too much love for McD..man I really hope they did their diligence and it wasn't just a smokescreen to hire McD anyways. You want to hope he is better than the last times he got out from under BB. Really the only thing that I'd be ok with it is because he's a local guy who understands the pressure of coaching this team and what the fans have been through. It'll mean alot more to him to win here than somewhere else.
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Exactly why I wouldn't take this job if I had any doubts leftover about myself. He must not.
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So Jimmy hires Josh and all the rest was basically a smoke screen ?? Sounds about right. Just can't handle that fact Haslam owns my TEAM ! I'm not so sure it was a smoke screen. McDaniels had other interviews set up too. I'd rather have Haslam than Jerry Jones. Especially after he kept Garrett hanging .. then brought in Lewis for an interview to cover Rooney rule .. then hired McCarthy the next day. I don't blame Lewis for being pissed. Anyone that demands Hue be his OC should not be mad they get passed over for a job 
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This is just my opinion, and I have no facts behind it.
I believe they have been talking to Josh all week and have been negotiating a contract in the meantime. I believe they wanted Josh the entire time.
I don't think this is an "interview", I think the interview has already happened, either phone or skype or what have you. I believe Jimmy sending his jet, says hes already been offered and accepted, and they are brining him up to finalize the deal on paper.
I believe we have our HC hired.
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So Jimmy hires Josh and all the rest was basically a smoke screen ?? Sounds about right. Just can't handle that fact Haslam owns my TEAM ! I'm not so sure it was a smoke screen. McDaniels had other interviews set up too. I'd rather have Haslam than Jerry Jones. Especially after he kept Garrett hanging .. then brought in Lewis for an interview to cover Rooney rule .. then hired McCarthy the next day. I don't blame Lewis for being pissed. Anyone that demands Hue be his OC should not be mad they get passed over for a job Hue has been a good offensive coordinator. Where it is true he was bad as a head coach, he was successful as on OC in Cincinnati. There have been many bad Head Coaches who were good Offense Coordinators .. Josh McDaniels is an example .. 
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