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whats crazy is that it would probably be more successful than the head coaches we've had making those decisions.
a rather sad reality. So, I proposed this to a buddy at work who's a Browns fan as well. If, by the end of this weekend our new HC has not been announced, I vote that we fans submit our resumes for consideration. Flood Berea with candidates. Who knows, maybe if we put something shiny on it, it'll catch Jimmy's eye, gets him excited enough to act impulsively and one of us jerks from DT might find ourselves with a head set on the sidelines! If he hires me, I'm hiring that dude wearing the Ninja Turtle costume outside Cleveland Stadium to be the guy who keeps me off the field.
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exactly that bro. it absolutely fit the criteria of a wtf hire.
but most of us were blinded by the success. How's this for a wtf hire? We DON'T hire ANYONE for HC! Let's try it out for a season. The OC is in charge when the offense is on the field, the DC when the defense is, and ST when St is on the field. When it comes to penalties and decisions to challenge, let one of the analytics guys run the numbers real quick and go off of that. IBM's Watson. Can't get much more 'analytics' than that.
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exactly that bro. it absolutely fit the criteria of a wtf hire.
but most of us were blinded by the success. How's this for a wtf hire? We DON'T hire ANYONE for HC! Let's try it out for a season. The OC is in charge when the offense is on the field, the DC when the defense is, and ST when St is on the field. When it comes to penalties and decisions to challenge, let one of the analytics guys run the numbers real quick and go off of that. It honestly can't hurt.... just need someone to decide when to go for it on 4th down versus sending the punt unit out there. That's easy. Jimmy's always concerned with the fan experience right? Prior to kick off, 10 (hmmm... probably more like 20) fans are randomly selected. Once located, the ushers are made aware of those seats. On 4th down just go down that list... put that schmoe on the jumbo tron as they give the Roman thumbs up or thumbs down!
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Josh McD is to be tomorrow, got bumped up, or was I told wrong?
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AFAIK, McDaniels' interview is tomorrow. Peter King was a guest on a Boston sports talk show and gave his opinion on who we'll pick.
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Here is my biggest issue with analytics. You can't measure heart. How much does a guy love the game and how dedicated is he going to be.
The problem is, the "football guys" don't seem to pay that much attention to it either
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Here is my biggest issue with analytics. You can't measure heart. How much does a guy love the game and how dedicated is he going to be.
The problem is, the "football guys" don't seem to pay that much attention to it either If the analytics guys miss it and the football guys miss it, it seems like it can’t be measured and basically random.
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The football guys care more about size and speed.
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Here is my biggest issue with analytics. You can't measure heart. How much does a guy love the game and how dedicated is he going to be.
The problem is, the "football guys" don't seem to pay that much attention to it either Heart doesn't win you football games. Talent and execution does.
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Here is my biggest issue with analytics. You can't measure heart. How much does a guy love the game and how dedicated is he going to be.
The problem is, the "football guys" don't seem to pay that much attention to it either Heart doesn't win you football games. Talent and execution does. I disagree. Heart ... drive ..... or determination, if you will, is vital to the makeup of many great players. That desire to be great, and to make your team great, is what many great players had as one of their top attributes. It drives their talent to the next level. Look at guys like Josh Gordon and Antonio Callaway .... and this is really what they lacked. They are both immensely talented, but that drive to be great, to sacrifice more than others would even consider in order to be great, is one thing they each sorely lack. Talent is nothing if the player isn't willing to give everything he has for his team and teammates.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
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Analytics isn't about size and speed. It is about what the results were in specific situations (the more parameters the more precise and the more data needed) Analytics is about trying to predict what might happen in the future under the same situations based on information from the past.
Size and Speed gets you Mike Mamula
Football guys get you Peyton Manning...but also can get you Gerard Warren or Vernon Gohlston
Analytics gets you Jimmy Garrapolo but can also get you a Corey Coleman...
Analytics becomes more important in later rounds as the success of "football guys" becomes remote. Is it a sure thing...absolutely not...But it isn't about letting analytics make the decision...it is about providing another layer of information to allow you to make better decisions....
Analytics is like the mechanic you take a car to before buying it. He can tell you that this model has brake issues or electrical problems....does that mean that specific car will have those issues??? Absolutely not...But you know have more information from which to make you car purchase decision.
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I believe if you have talent..and put your heart into using your talent. Then success is most likely..
Athletes that are less talented and put their heart into it don't always reap the same success...
When you put together a team of all levels of talent along with everyone's heart...it tends to create a successful situation..
It takes more than just talent or just heart to be successful..It's a combination of both that creates success.
A Coach who has the talent to teach but no heart is more than likely going to fail..
I want a talented coach with heart to make the team successful
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Just my opinion - nothing to back this up - but the heart a player (or coach) plays with surely translates to the success they have or demonstrate on the field of play .... so it would translate into analytics. The only case I could see where this might not show up is where you have an Uber talented / freak athlete that can dominate without heart at a particular level - and then when they step up and get challenged they fold. Justin Gilbert might be in that category - but due diligence and interviews should expose that lack of drive/commitment/desire.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
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Just my opinion - nothing to back this up - but the heart a player (or coach) plays with surely translates to the success they have or demonstrate on the field of play .... so it would translate into analytics. The only case I could see where this might not show up is where you have an Uber talented / freak athlete that can dominate without heart at a particular level - and then when they step up and get challenged they fold. Justin Gilbert might be in that category - but due diligence and interviews should expose that lack of drive/commitment/desire. I think the best example of what you are talking about is Jay Cutler.
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Here is my biggest issue with analytics. You can't measure heart. How much does a guy love the game and how dedicated is he going to be.
The problem is, the "football guys" don't seem to pay that much attention to it either Heart doesn't win you football games. Talent and execution does. Then Josh Gordon would be an All Pro, every year.
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wouldn't it be funny if McDaniels wanted Dorsey as his GM?
that would be something we have never done before...
fire and rehire the same guy LOL
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wouldn't it be funny if McDaniels wanted Dorsey as his GM? I'm not going to be able to sleep tonight...Thanks dogg....lol
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One Interview to go... Tommarrow will make the last and final interview hopefully  Meaning no more names added it should be time for a decision. I kind of feel this was a good opportunity for the FO to get a chance to take the time and really evaluate the candidates and be able to make a decision based on several choices and not a hurry up just get a guy in .. For once I feel the opportunity to get who they had in mind was handed to them. It doesn't feel like the only coach standing this time.It feels different at least in the way of the process. Having the time and the means to search some candidates whether be first choice or not. I just really hope the FO gets this right. Here's to the last interview and hopefully a good hire soon.Who ever that may be.
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I dont see how Brian Dumboll got in the front door at Berea.
His resume was the most lacking of all.the coaching candidates.
McDaniels looks to be the front runner
He's came from.the most successful culture
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I dont see how Brian Dumboll got in the front door at Berea. The Good.. The Bad...and the Dumboll One good way to look at it...the FO didn't cancel any future interviews after his..
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I dont see how Brian Dumboll got in the front door at Berea.
His resume was the most lacking of all.the coaching candidates.
McDaniels looks to be the front runner
He's came from.the most successful culture
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Daboll was with NE from 2000 - 2006 and 2013 - 2016
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... hopefully a good hire soon.Who ever that may be. The question is : Will Haslam listen to Depo's recommendation?
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Here is my biggest issue with analytics. You can't measure heart. How much does a guy love the game and how dedicated is he going to be.
The problem is, the "football guys" don't seem to pay that much attention to it either Heart doesn't win you football games. Talent and execution does. That's just plain false. Tell that to Julian Edelman, SB MVP. Dude isn't all that talented - but he grinds and plays with heart. Hines Ward, another SB MVP - wasn't exactly the greatest talent, but grinded his way. Heart and grind beats talent any day on a football field.
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Analytics isn't about size and speed. It is about what the results were in specific situations (the more parameters the more precise and the more data needed) Analytics is about trying to predict what might happen in the future under the same situations based on information from the past.
Size and Speed gets you Mike Mamula
Football guys get you Peyton Manning...but also can get you Gerard Warren or Vernon Gohlston
Analytics gets you Jimmy Garrapolo but can also get you a Corey Coleman...
Analytics becomes more important in later rounds as the success of "football guys" becomes remote. Is it a sure thing...absolutely not...But it isn't about letting analytics make the decision...it is about providing another layer of information to allow you to make better decisions....
Analytics is like the mechanic you take a car to before buying it. He can tell you that this model has brake issues or electrical problems....does that mean that specific car will have those issues??? Absolutely not...But you know have more information from which to make you car purchase decision. There is a big misconception in analytics. Analytics isn't about trying to figure out "whats going to happen" either. Its about looking at the historical data, finding a pattern of said data, to try to predict the best possible outcome in a situation. Its about leveraging risk. In banking, we base a ton of our rates, products, and fees on analytics. We look at trends and modules not to "predict" what is going to happen per say, but to leverage and put ourselves in the best possible outcome for moving forward.
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I posit that lack of heart certainly can lose you games. Saw some of that this year. May boil it down to execution or other attributes. But sometimes it rears up inside you, beyond doing your job to devastating the other guy in a way that you won't be denied. Like art: I know it when I see it.
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If true, this seems like a poor way of going about getting your HC.
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Analytics isn't about size and speed. It is about what the results were in specific situations (the more parameters the more precise and the more data needed) Analytics is about trying to predict what might happen in the future under the same situations based on information from the past.
Size and Speed gets you Mike Mamula
Football guys get you Peyton Manning...but also can get you Gerard Warren or Vernon Gohlston
Analytics gets you Jimmy Garrapolo but can also get you a Corey Coleman...
Analytics becomes more important in later rounds as the success of "football guys" becomes remote. Is it a sure thing...absolutely not...But it isn't about letting analytics make the decision...it is about providing another layer of information to allow you to make better decisions....
Analytics is like the mechanic you take a car to before buying it. He can tell you that this model has brake issues or electrical problems....does that mean that specific car will have those issues??? Absolutely not...But you know have more information from which to make you car purchase decision. There is a big misconception in analytics. Analytics isn't about trying to figure out "whats going to happen" either. Its about looking at the historical data, finding a pattern of said data, to try to predict the best possible outcome in a situation. Its about leveraging risk. In banking, we base a ton of our rates, products, and fees on analytics. We look at trends and modules not to "predict" what is going to happen per say, but to leverage and put ourselves in the best possible outcome for moving forward. well first...I did say what "might" happen. and there is a reason we call it "Predictive Analytics". I work in Data Operations with a Large Hospital System and have been working in Analytics, Reporting, Business Intelligence, and Data for going on 23 years. I was really just trying to simplify things for the purpose of that particular misconception. I did start an analytics thread before , but time constraints did not allow me to elaborate on it...I may have to reconsider bringing it back from the dead...
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If true, this seems like a poor way of going about getting your HC. I just checked Breer's twitter, and I didn't see this mentioned anywhere.
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If true, this seems like a poor way of going about getting your HC. I just checked Breer's twitter, and I didn't see this mentioned anywhere. He said it on a radio interview - I heard it. In context, he said (paraphrasing): "McDaniels will either be named Browns' HC by 5PM this afternoon or he will pull his name from contention at 1 or 2PM.".
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If true, this seems like a poor way of going about getting your HC. I just checked Breer's twitter, and I didn't see this mentioned anywhere. He talked about it on 92.3 this morning with Ken and Lima. A little clarification, however...
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If true, this seems like a poor way of going about getting your HC. I just checked Breer's twitter, and I didn't see this mentioned anywhere. He said it on a radio interview - I heard it. In context, he said (paraphrasing): "McDaniels will either be named Browns' HC by 5PM this afternoon or he will pull his name from contention at 1 or 2PM.". And? So basically he is saying they are either going to hire him or not - which is exactly how ANY interview ends. . . . . McD has an agent - who has been in talks with the Browns already, I am sure they know exactly the type of deal he wants already.
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Ah, the reliable media outlet known as Twitter strikes again.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
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Ah, the reliable media outlet known as Twitter strikes again. Its hilarious. I have guys on twitter arguing with me he said it, im like bro - he literally just replied he did not say that. lol.
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Ah, the reliable media outlet known as Twitter strikes again. Its hilarious. I have guys on twitter arguing with me he said it, im like bro - he literally just replied he did not say that. lol. I believe the key word in that tweet to you is "that". He did say words to that effect, but it was of a more binary nature, as in an "either/or" statement.
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j/c... Still nothing out of Berea... 
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