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https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/09/politics/trump-proposal-national-environmental-policy-act/index.html
Don't let political rhetoric confuse you. This is an attack on our environment.
This is providing a open freeway to fossil fuels companies to fill their pockets. Corporate greed ignores all else. They could care less about the environment.
Without oversight and regulation controls this policy will allow these companies to rape and pillage the environment.
The Flint Michigan water crisis is a example. School children drinking lead tainted water suffering from brain disorders. Plastic water bottles trucked in for drinking. Brown water for bathing, dishes, laundry.
Fracking companies destroying sub surface water tables.
So if you sit back and do nothing and not fight this. Do not complain when you turn on the tap water and it looks and smells like a swamp.
Or read on a regular basis about pipeline fractures and oil spells.
It is not about jobs. It is about excessive profits and destroying the air we breath and the water we drink.
Think about it. Poison does not care if you are a democrat or republican; it will kill you both.
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who cares about clean air and water when our 401ks are up!!
am i right?
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I am a independent. Have both conservative and liberal ideas.
I have voted for both parties or rather who I thought the best person. Could care less about the party.
I do however feel very strongly about what we leave behind for future generations.
We should all consider ourselves as stewards of our land.
Feel that is important to protect our land. Leave it to the next generation as a better place.
This is about water, air, and land we need.
Why not protect what is needed by all of us?
Trump has the worst record of any president ever on environmental concerns. He always favors the corporate gluttons.
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When I was but a wee lad, the Great Lakes were filthy.
The Erie Canal was battery acid and lead.
Birds had crossed-bill syndrome from pollution.
Never saw an Eagle, rarely saw a hawk. Their eggs were too thin due to DDT.
Couldn't see Los Angeles on a sunny day.
Government was detonating Nukes in the western deserts as the wind blew the fallout east over the pastures, making milk poisonous.
Oh dear, my mind was wandering. What was your hair on fire about again?
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who cares about clean air and water when our 401ks are up!!
am i right? Sometimes I feel like lefties make a false idol out of and worship the environment, (let it never be so.) I know one thing, Screw the environment, in cases where more pressing needs take precedence, like when foreign troops are attacking or homes are burning, or lives need saving, No reason to spend so much time thinking about the environment, life is too short, and there are much more important things more important than shutting down capitalism because someone somewhere could make 10% cleaner air come out of a smokestack, But won't change one "iota" "infantessimal" (whatdoya call those things), (Nano? Nano? Nano-particles) It won't change one nano particle, or any percentage of helping stop climate change, to simply "condemn" right thinking, development, and production, with the false excuse of "climate change" (because real climate change is out of the hands of human control) "climate change" which really is a buzz word, to grab power, and submit the common people, under the totalitarian thumb of a corrupt government, which doesn't give a rip about the actual environment, except to control the common peoples' lives, and daily lives.
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Wonderful and completely selfish viewpoint you have there. Yay.
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yea.....we dont agree at all.
this was a special kind of post. very special.
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And while one would like to leave politics out of the discussion, I believe one would have to consider what each party has done to protect or has not done to protect our environment into the discussion.
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Your response speaks volumes.
Wrap your lips around an exhaust pipe.
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Glad you have such clear ideas about priorities.
Hope you don't have kids yours selfishness is all you need.
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who cares about clean air and water when our 401ks are up!!
am i right? That’s it .. in a nut shell bro. Cept it’s our 409k’s, get it right geez.
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Sometimes I feel like lefties make a false idol out of and worship the environment, (let it never be so.)
I will worship the environment before I worship any prophet that organized religion tells me I should worship, bow or pray to. After all, know the environment truly exists and deserves our respect. It is her who will kill us before some "prophet" none of us have ever seen or know exists. But you carry on being you.
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Sometimes I feel like lefties make a false idol out of and worship the environment, (let it never be so.)
I will worship the environment before I worship any prophet that organized religion tells me I should worship, bow or pray to. After all, know the environment truly exists and deserves our respect. It is her who will kill us before some "prophet" none of us have ever seen or know exists. But you carry on being you. Must be stressful worshiping a god you believe to be dying. Mine is alive and doing well. 
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I will worship the environment before I worship any prophet that organized religion tells me I should worship and you have that right. That's what is so great about this country. We have the freedom of choice.
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I will worship the environment before I worship any prophet that organized religion tells me I should worship and you have that right. That's what is so great about this country. We have the freedom of choice. Just like with abortion. It should be freedom of choice.
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Mine is alive and doing well. Yet it was man who killed his own son. And now they're working on killing the earth. Revelation 11:18 King James Version (KJV) 18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.I mean since you seem to be into God and all.
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Just like with abortion. It should be freedom of choice.
Oh no, no, no !!! Only middle aged white men can tell women what to do with their bodies. Are you mad?
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I will worship the environment before I worship any prophet that organized religion tells me I should worship and you have that right. That's what is so great about this country. We have the freedom of choice. Just like with abortion. It should be freedom of choice. I am all for freedom of choice when the baby has a choice let me know.
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Just like with abortion. It should be freedom of choice.
Oh no, no, no !!! Only middle aged white men can tell women what to do with their bodies. Are you mad? and only woman can murder babies in the womb 
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Just like with abortion. It should be freedom of choice.
I am all for freedom of choice when the baby has a choice let me know. Well the baby can have a choice as soon as it's born or but we'll protect it after it's a 20 week old fetus.
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SO your against freedom of choice then. Thanks for clearing that up 
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Anytime a Trump supporter starts with "So you're against", you know a mouth load of BS is coming next.
I've never once heard of a decision being made by an embryo or zygote under 20 weeks... Is there even a functioning brain? Maybe I should ask one of those lefty scientist to enlighten me.
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and anytime somebody says they are for freedom of choice, YET they don't want the baby or the father to have the same choice then they are discriminating against the baby and the father.
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It’s. Not. A. Baby.
A cell clump. A parasite without the ability to live outside it’s host.
But you know this.
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I know people who support murdering babies in the womb want to make any excuse, and make up cute names abortion, choice, cell clump, parasite rather than have to admit that they support killing babies.
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So according to you I support killing babies... Villainous vile twisting of words to fit the agenda much?
If a fetus is not allowed to reach birth stage development, therefore not born becoming a baby, then it will never be physically abused, sexually abused, or killed. So you must support beating, raping, and murdering babies. How does that feel?
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and anytime somebody says they are for freedom of choice, YET they don't want the baby or the father to have the same choice then they are discriminating against the baby and the father. The father? Lol. The father made a choice to get laid without protection. Maybe he forced the encounter. GMAFB. The father...lol. It’s the women’s right to choose now. Get over it. It’s the law.
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Feels just fine because I know it's not true bro 
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and anytime somebody says they are for freedom of choice, YET they don't want the baby or the father to have the same choice then they are discriminating against the baby and the father. The father? Lol. The father made a choice to get laid without protection. Maybe he forced the encounter. GMAFB. The father...lol. It’s the women’s right to choose now. Get over it. It’s the law. It's the law today. It may not be the law next year
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Feels just fine because I know it's not true bro Nahhh - not true at all it's a collection of cells with no sense or feeling or thoughts. Left to mature it will one day become a baby. Absolutely not a "Baby" in that state as a collection of cells the size of a thimble. However I realize that without that emotional angle to ratchet up your side of the argument, you don't have much other than religion. . . . . it's like calling a cow in a field with potatoes and carrots and asparagus growing in the ground a steak dinner. It's not.
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A cow is a steak dinner. Just ask PETA
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and anytime somebody says they are for freedom of choice, YET they don't want the baby or the father to have the same choice then they are discriminating against the baby and the father. The father? Lol. The father made a choice to get laid without protection. Maybe he forced the encounter. GMAFB. The father...lol. It’s the women’s right to choose now. Get over it. It’s the law. It's the law today. It may not be the law next year for those too poor to have a private doctor to do it. You know, like the wealthy and powerful and their mistresses. The same wealthy and powerful that’ll vote for the poor to not have access. Fixed it for you.
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Not sure how this got into abortion?
Which is not an easy topic.
The topic is about protection of essential life support to all living things.
Common sense which doesn't seem so common.
We have to have water. Why allow that resource to be polluted?
trump people want to dodge questions about topics like Flint Michigan. "Well I don't live there." A place where school kids were drinking poisoned water.
How can anyone argue against clean water and air??
What can be more important? People are concerned about their health. Try and eat right. Go to gym's to work out. Drink bottled water. All the attention paid and business's that surround personal health.
But it is ok to pollute rivers? Destroy water tables that are used for drinking water? Remove restrictions on fossil fuel products that affect the air we all breath?
And someone believes a politician because he says it affects jobs. It has nothing to do with jobs. It has to do profit margins, lobbyists, corruption, and greed. Nothing else.
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You've now used every excuse from abortion to PETA in order to try and justify you feel we have no need to even protect the very air we breath.
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Not sure how this got into abortion?
Which is not an easy topic.
The topic is about protection of essential life support to all living things.
Common sense which doesn't seem so common.
We have to have water. Why allow that resource to be polluted?
trump people want to dodge questions about topics like Flint Michigan. "Well I don't live there." A place where school kids were drinking poisoned water.
How can anyone argue against clean water and air??
What can be more important? People are concerned about their health. Try and eat right. Go to gym's to work out. Drink bottled water. All the attention paid and business's that surround personal health.
But it is ok to pollute rivers? Destroy water tables that are used for drinking water? Remove restrictions on fossil fuel products that affect the air we all breath?
And someone believes a politician because he says it affects jobs. It has nothing to do with jobs. It has to do profit margins, lobbyists, corruption, and greed. Nothing else.
Uh, "Trump people" have the common sense to look at the facts... Wrong Again: 50 Years of Failed Eco-pocalyptic PredictionsModern doomsayers have been predicting climate and environmental disaster since the 1960s. They continue to do so today. None of the apocalyptic predictions with due dates as of today have come true. What follows is a collection of notably wild predictions from notable people in government and science. https://cei.org/blog/wrong-again-50-years-failed-eco-pocalyptic-predictions
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There is no way on this earth that you would ever truly investigate to find the truth.
Actual science is your enemy.
This not about "the end". This about common sense applied to everyday life.
You are not worth the time. Your so brain dead from your sources the truth is taboo.
Again go suck an exhaust pipe. Take deep slow breaths it will be good practice. Don't purchase bottled water go to Flint Michigan and drink tap water. Build up your immune system.
Your responses to anything of importance truly speaks to your character.
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You are snarky, I will admit, but that article has the actual newspaper clippings to prove its point. The rest is just mouth. 
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The article even states these are "WILD CLAIMS" ..... the one link i opened had a headline saying Price Charles saying "96 months" to save whatever ..... but when you read the article there was lots of quotes from Charles saying fairly common sense stuff - nothing about the 96 months or impending disaster.
As I have said many times - picking the craziest 'theories' or picking quotes from the extremes and painting that as being "typical" is a weak and disingenuous argument. Whether it's the right or left doing it .... and of course YOU doing it and posting it sort of proves my point.
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There is so much credible science that debate is unproductive. Do the work and actually look 40.
Like trying to refute evolution. Oh, wait the earth is 4000 years old.
It says that somewhere in some book. So that's proof right?
Not worth it. When someone is pre-convinced that world is flat. And trump doesn't lie.
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