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so, if I'm reading this properly.. we named a HC who has 1-year experience as an OC the rest of the time he has been a position coach. He has no HC experience and did play college football.


hmmm... this reminds me of someone we just fired.


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Minnesota fans are literally thanking us on Twitter.



I like how people think this means something.


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I’m happy with the choice.

Would’ve been happy with McDaniels, Stefanski or Salah.

I’m guessing Andrew Berry will be named the GM (getting the old gang back together again!).

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blah, blah, he is very smart, great.

Does anyone know how he is about player discipline and his ability to build a focused team?

Will he tell Baker to shut his mouth? Will he tell OBJ to stop accessorizing like a model? Will he tell Garrett to control his emotions? In a word will he run a team like Vrabel?

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See you guys in two years for the next head coach search. LOL


Wouldn't count on it. I think he gets the time. Itd certainly be the first time we've gone that route but I think he gets it. Experience is a question mark but I wanted youth to hopefully be able to go long, long term. Would love a 15-20 year Knoll, Shula type guy.

Time will tell....get on it Kevin!


TBH I could care less. Haslam owns the team. As long as he continues to want to be a "football guy" the organization will be nothing more than a chaotic dumpster fire. He will NOT experience success as an owner until he stays in his lane (marketing) and let's the football guys do their job. He has not shown the ability to do this during his tenure and the results have presented themselves on the field. He is incompetent at best. I have no faith. And I'm not giving this idiot any of my money. EVER.

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I like how people think this means something.


it means as much as your opinion


... or mine


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I have been so wrong on all the coaches..This time I'm going to be right..because I'm not jumping to conclusions..Going to wait and see when the games begin and how he does..

Might be a better HC than OC..who knows.. But be the leader the team needs and God be with you..

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so, if I'm reading this properly.. we named a HC who has 1-year experience as an OC the rest of the time he has been a position coach. He has no HC experience and did play college football.


hmmm... this reminds me of someone we just fired.


This scares me as well

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How long until he's fired?

16 games? 30 games?

Don't be afraid to make a change before the first kickoff, Jimmy!


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... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.

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blah, blah, he is very smart, great.

Does anyone know how he is about player discipline and his ability to build a focused team?

Will he tell Baker to shut his mouth? Will he tell OBJ to stop accessorizing like a model? Will he tell Garrett to control his emotions? In a word will he run a team like Vrabel?



I guess we will find out. I also hope Landry is as focused on winning as he says he is on Twitter. Until EVERYONE wants to work in Berea no real success will be achieved. FOOTBALL needs to be the focus. Not commercials. Not watches. Not shoes. No stats. Put in the work if you want the results. Fans are tired of the nonsense. Please be professional football players next season. Nothing else matters.


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I cannot wait for that day. The Haslams are incompetent. The NFL should be embarrassed. I know the City of Cleveland is. What a joke.


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A lot will depend on the OC/DC


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Minnesota fans are literally thanking us on Twitter.



I like how people think this means something.


it means as much as your opinion


... or mine


Precisely. But use it as a legit justification to be angry at the hire a few minutes in seems wild. I think there are more serious issues to consider when being wary about the hire than fans that are rather emotional after a playoff loss.


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I have heard and seen nothing to prove to me that this guy is a leader.

So we saw him OC for 150 total yards yesterday and were like “that’s our guy!” I don’t care about your pre game analytics. I care about your leadership ability and in game adjustments.

This is some same old Browns crap. 6-10 here we come.


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Kevin Stefanski, Gary Kubiak use unselfish approach to guide Vikings offense
Adding a Super Bowl-winning coach to a receptive coordinator could be a key to the team's success.
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The job he had long aspired to with the Vikings, the one for which he would been passed over a year ago, was finally his. And shortly after Kevin Stefanski filled out his first staff as the team’s permanent offensive coordinator, one of his first moves was to give away a piece of his newly acquired influence.

The Vikings had added Gary Kubiak as an assistant head coach at Stefanski’s behest, bringing the former Super Bowl-winning head coach onto their offensive staff. They also hired Kubiak’s son, Klint, and two of his longtime assistants in a series of moves that quickly signaled how significantly Kubiak would shape the team’s latest offensive overhaul.

Rather than forcing the Kubiaks, offensive line coach Rick Dennison and tight ends coach Brian Pariani to adopt the terminology that had become familiar to him, Stefanski told the group he would learn the offensive language they’d used for years together. It was easier, he reasoned, for one person to adjust to four people than the other way around. It didn’t matter that the person laying down his preference was also the one who ultimately would call the shots.

“That tells you who Kevin is. I don’t even know what words to describe it,” Gary Kubiak said. “It tells you why he’s going to get to the top and have a chance to be such a hell of a head coach in this league. Really, it was an unselfishness on his part. He could have come in here and bullhorned us into what we’re doing. He said, ‘No — let’s talk your language. I can catch up.’ I expected that, because of what I knew about him.”

The collaboration on which the Vikings are staking their 2019 offense — and, quite possibly, the status of their current regime — is a partnership born of mutual admiration: Stefanski loved the West Coast schemes Gary Kubiak ran with Matt Schaub and Arian Foster in Houston, while Klint Kubiak’s time at Stefanski’s side (as a Vikings quality control coach from 2014-15) led the elder Kubiak to keep Stefanski’s name in his Rolodex of young coaching talent. They’d entertained ideas of working together over the years, and when head coach Mike Zimmer removed the interim tag from Stefanski’s offensive coordinator title in January, it created the ideal situation for Gary Kubiak — who had been looking for a path back into coaching after two years in the Broncos’ front office — to return.

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“I know he was so fired up to get this opportunity,” Klint Kubiak, now the Vikings’ quarterbacks coach, said of his father. “It’s who he is, and he’s darn good at it. This is the perfect scenario for him.”

There seems, at least for now, little about the partnership that would evoke the friction of 2016 (when the Vikings added Pat Shurmur and Tony Sparano to a staff that Norv Turner left at midseason) or the creative dissonance of 2018 (where Zimmer fired John DeFilippo after 13 games). Stefanski forged a close relationship with Klint Kubiak in their first stint together, and the elder Kubiak seems content as a mentor to Stefanski who will provide a wizened perspective during the week before posting up in the press box on Sundays.

The tension that has marked many of the Vikings’ recent offensive staffs, the team hopes, has been replaced by a consortium of like-minded coaches.

“I think it goes back to having a healthy respect,” Stefanski said. “I feel so strong about these people and these coaches, when we have conversations in that room, we are able to dig pretty deep and have discussions and have disagreements at times. I think it goes back to, we all have a healthy respect for each other. Ultimately, it’s my job to make sure what we do is in the absolute best interest of the Minnesota Vikings, and I feel comfortable doing that, because I feel really comfortable with the people around the table.”

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Stefanski was among the holdovers from Leslie Frazier’s coaching staff to join Zimmer’s first staff in 2014. After Turner hired Klint Kubiak, Stefanski — who first came to Minnesota as Brad Childress’ assistant in 2006 — was responsible for getting the new quality control coach up to speed.

“His job was to teach me their system,” Klint Kubiak said, “so I could do all the grunt work: break down the film, draw the playbooks. It’s not a very fun job, having done it before and needing to train someone else. But he took the time to explain concepts to me.

‘‘He didn’t have to spend that time; he could have said, ‘Here’s the playbook. I’ll see you tomorrow.’ ”

The two coaches — who’d both tagged along with their fathers in professional sports, grown up around brothers and played defensive back for Jesuit high schools — became fast friends. They stayed in touch after Klint Kubiak became Kansas’ wide receivers coach, and then went to work with Gary in Denver.

“I wanted to be just like him,” Klint Kubiak said.

It didn’t take long for the younger Kubiak’s admiration for Stefanski to reach his father.

“Nowadays, you don’t see coaches take the path that he’s had,” Gary Kubiak said. “That used to be the old path: you start at the bottom, and you bang-bang-bang-bang-bang, and you get there … I just think it’s the way things are nowadays; a lot of guys are hired assuming what they’re going to be in a couple of years — which, that’s great. But Kevin has really come up the way guys like myself did. It’s going to be good for him in the long haul.”

The elder Kubiak — who spent his playing career as John Elway’s backup before coaching Steve Young, Elway and Peyton Manning, among others — spends much of his time with his son coaching the Vikings’ quarterbacks. He stands behind them in practices, teaching as often as not by asking questions.

“He’s just saying, ‘Hey, tell me why you worked that side,’ or, ‘What were your feet telling you there?’ ” Cousins said. “It’s always good to make you think.”

When he’s with Stefanski, Gary Kubiak is often on the receiving end of the questions.

“There’s no better sounding board for anybody,” Stefanski said. “He’s probably sick of me walking into his office saying, ‘Hey, have you done this before?’ It just is so cool to have a guy that has been through the ringer as a play-caller, as a head coach, as a quarterback. That resource, for me, is incredible.

“I’ve called exactly three games in this league, so I don’t feel like I’ve figured this whole thing out. That’s where I love to have some really strong, smart people on the headset with me.”

Quarterback benefits

Though Stefanski’s relationship with the Kubiaks helped solidify the framework of the Vikings’ new-look staff, there’s another obvious stakeholder in the whole process. That would be Cousins, who broke into the NFL playing for Gary Kubiak’s old boss (Mike Shanahan) and burnished his reputation working with Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVay in a system that shares plenty of tenets with what the Vikings figure to run in 2019.

Both Stefanski and Cousins said there’s enough novelty in the Vikings’ playbook that no one — the quarterback included — could have come in on the first day of the team’s spring program and run it without prior study time. But some of its core concepts (an outside zone running scheme, more play-action throws, two tight-end sets and increased time with the QB under center) are similar to what Cousins did in Washington.

Cousins, who posted career highs in completion percentage, touchdown passes and TD-to-interception ratio last year, redirected the narrative that the system was crafted solely to help him improve.

“You try to get the best play-caller, the best system, the best opportunity, regardless of who the quarterback is,” he said. “The reality is, if you get a really good system, a really good play-caller, who’s going to benefit? The quarterback. It has nothing to do with, ‘Oh, Kirk needs this or that.’ I had my best year last year, with a system that was brand-new. What they looked at was, ‘We were in the shotgun too many times to expect to win consistently. Let’s look at how we can get under center and run the ball more and use play action.’

“We were still effective in the shotgun; it was just a lot harder than if we had done it a different way. Look, Matt Ryan had an outstanding year last year, and they went 7-9, because they were like [27th] running the football. And Matt Ryan has been NFL MVP when they were in the top five running the football. If you run the ball and play good defense, the quarterback’s going to look pretty good. Just ask Peyton Manning in 2015, when they ran the ball and played good defense.”

The coach of that Super Bowl-winning 2015 Broncos team, of course, was Gary Kubiak. The Vikings’ efforts to get him his fifth ring as a coach will be met with myriad challenges between now and the end of the season.

Part of the reason Kubiak is here, though, is because the Vikings believe they finally have the offensive structure to overcome those challenges.

“He’s been through it,” Stefanski said. “He can tell a story from one of his Super Bowls, or he can tell a story from one of his seasons, that resonates with our players and obviously has a lot of weight, because it’s coming from him.”


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Wash, Rinse and repeat .. All I gots to say .

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What’s Grossi implying?


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Maybe I am missing something but I am not getting what Grossi is even getting at. I s he trying to bash the Browns for not hiring a minority candidate?

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Maybe I am missing something but I am not getting what Grossi is even getting at. I s he trying to bash the Browns for not hiring a minority candidate?


Stefan-SKI ... polish ... ethnic ...

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Let the bids begin.

This is a dumpster fire.


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Richard Sherman roasting us lol


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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After the.last couple weeks, really would have liked to see Saleh get a chance.
I thought it was going to be McDaniels

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I think he's suggesting that Greater Cleveland has a large Polish population, which it does.

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No.

Cleveland has a large Polish population. Along with other ethnic neighbors.

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Jimmy Haslam talked about utilizing Baker Mayfield properly with formations and certain play calls.

When the Browns ran a play action boot, they were successful on 73.7%, best in the NFL by a large margin (10.6%).

They ran it the 4th fewest times in the NFL

Baker Mayfield's grade of 92.5 was highest in the NFL on boots.

The Vikings ran it the 3rd most in the NFL with Kirk Cousins sporting a 90.1 grade (3rd) and 5th most efficient.

https://twitter.com/JohnKosko3/status/1213087842685112324


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Does this mean we are burning down the Berea dumpster again? White smoke, eh?


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wtf, coordinator Kevin Stefanski?
Won't hire Urban Myer cause he has no NFL coaching experience
but will hire coordinator Kevin Stefanski,
This team is cheap!

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After the.last couple weeks, really would have liked to see Saleh get a chance.
I thought it was going to be McDaniels


And you'd be reading the same stuff with just a different name inserted...

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I wanted Bieniemy. I think he’s the next big thing. Too bad.


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I knew it!!!!!

The absolute WORST hire they could make and thats the guy they pick LOL!!!!!

You can't even write comedy that is this good!!!!

OBJ, Landry, Hunt...those guys will NOT respect this guy they will walk all over him just like they walked over Kitchens because he has ZERO Cred.

Everyone in league circles know its Kubiak that made the Vikings move. You look when Stephanski took over for Deflippio back in 2018, he struggled BIG TIME, and it wasn't until they brought in Kubiak that things smoothed out and started working.

The Haslam's are completely inept, they are the worst ownership in the history of the NFL, they are worse then senile Al Davis. Browns fans deserve better than this BS.

There is no way in **** that this soft spoken guy will be able to contend with the personalities we have (OBJ, Landry, and Hunt) This is comical.

What makes it even better is we are bringing back Andrew Berry!!!!!!!!

That should make you so excited! Berry was partially responsible for our 1-31 record over 2 years, He was the advisor to Sashi Brown for such genuis picks as Corey Coleman, Cam Erving!!!!!

We should be so excited.

This guy will be fire in a year and half. Bank on it.

Honestly, I think McDaniels refused the job, thats why all his coordinators signed with other teams about 45 minutes after his plane left Cleveland. Haslam wasn't going to give him the FO he wanted, so he said thanks but no thanks. Smart guy Josh McDaniels. Stay in NE for another year be much better opportunities for you next year.

Going to be really funny watching this crap show unfold next year! LOL

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This is so deflating. Did anyone watch that game yesterday? Minnesota got smoked. Stefanski only has 1 year of OC experience. I can’t believe I’m going to say it but I think we would’ve been better off keeping Kitchens. I was calling for Kitchens to be fired too. Wow.

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Predicting now that Stefanski and yet to be named GM are both canned by January 2022 after going 5-11 and 6-10. Only difference from now is Depodesta is going to get canned with them.

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No class, Grossi. Giving Ctown a black eye. What comes next after tone-deaf?


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So many people not liking this hire makes me feel even better about it.


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Deja vu all over again.

Congrats, Kevin! It's all uphill from here on out. I had him third. Guess our brain trust is gonna think 'em to death.

Just not good.


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Honestly none of the coordinators were a sure thing.

People would have gripped about anybody hired.

Outside of McCarthy nobody had a clear edge. A case can be made for or against any of them.

The product on the field and the results will be what counts.

No matter what is written or what else happens; winning games is all that matters.

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