DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Browns Hire Kevin Stefanski

The team will never be good with the Haslams as owners. People need to start recognizing this. There is no reason to get excited for next year or any future years they own the team. And that has nothing to do with the coach they hired. No coach can make it work here.

He's surrounded himself with yes men. Sounds like the new coach is one as well.

Awesome.

My 2 cents... I have no idea about this guy one way or the other and frankly neither do the vast majority of you. A point I was making repeatedly and Dan Labbe also said in his most recent article is that I hope they hired according to who they think the person is, the potential coach and not from resume’ or preconceived notions or sales pitches. Ultimately you’re looking for presence, leadership, organization, discipline, communication, big picture thinking, attention to detail, emotional resilience and maturity and internal strength. Of course football philosophy and X’s & O’s matter but not as much as getting the team and all the coaches and front office pulling in the same direction, everyone understanding the picture of what they’re trying to create, everyone understanding what the hell going is on. We’ve lacked that sorely for a very long time. I concert hope that is what they were looking for and that is why they landed on Stephansky. Here’s to hope.

Maybe, he will sell the team or have a heart attack?

Sad we have to hope bad things for someone. Unfortunately, its just... that bad.

Kitchens 2.0 is not the answer.

JC

I'll reserve judgement on the hire when I see the results

..but can someone tell me why anyone was so high on McDaniels? Based on his past head coach experience I would stay far far away

I like that I'm hearing that he's able to be flexible. It sounds like he's been hired because of leadership, and not because his scheme is the flavor of the month. I'm nowhere near sold, but I'm very eager to see his coordinator hires.

I'm hoping that thing about multi-hour owner-coach meeting was nothing or at least an exaggeration. While he does report to Haslam, weeklies sound like way too much.

Can someone tell me what the hell Dee does?

How many times have we heard while her husband is a moron, she's actually smart? And she's going to be involved this time? And she's in Haslam's ear? And she's going to have a bigger role and save Jimmy from himself? Because you know she's really smart and ...blah, blah, blah.

I think she's as bad as Jimmy. I've never heard anything being attributed to her other than wanting to keep Hue...which is bad. Yet not only does she get a free pass, she's lauded as the anti-Jimmy. Yet we're never any good.

I read she wasn't even in the interviews.

Look like the FO did.... Not sure everyone was so high on him..

Dee is just as dumb, despite what any narrative says otherwise. Nobody can be smart who’s run this organization

Cool is right. Know why they call it PMS? Mad cow disease was already taken.

I think everyone needs to chill.

No one knows anything about how this guy is gonna do. He wasn't my first choice but what everyone says is that he is smart, adaptable, works great with others and knows when he needs help. If Freddy had just one of those attributes, he'd still be here. If he can do what he did with Cousins and Keenum (two lesser QBs than Baker, imo) than I am willing to give him a shot. He will, at least, not make a fool out of himself. The most important decision he will make is DC. If he gets that wrong, we have no chance. We can't have another Wilks here.

The way I see it, this is our last legitimate chance for a long time - if something can't be made if this roster, no one will ever want to play here.

I worry about the FO more than coach.

Alright, the more I think about this, I don't like it.

1. By all accounts Haslam is a nice, means well kind of guy.
2. I believe McDaniels believes this and actually likes Jimmy.
3. He would have been willing to work for him because he does like him, but the working relationship would have to have boundaries, basically Haslam being the owner and letting the football people do their job.
4. Haslam, JW, and Depo...three people who know nothing about the NFL, couldn't live with that arrangement.
5. Stefanski could. He was willing to allow Haslam, JW, and Depo to impact his success or failure. That's not a leader. That's weakness when you allow three individuals who collectively know nothing impact your job.
6. This will not end well. There will be cracks as early as training camp. We will never know if Baker is good or not or could have been good or not.

What. A. Cluster.

I’m guessing Haslam views himself as a jerry Jones type. He’s on some overlord stuff right now.

I’m okay with a meeting with analytics and football guys, but this seems like too much w/Jimmy

Curious what McDaniel suggested to change

So if Kevin Stefanski flops will Paul DePodesta be fired? I don't like this hire at all. Hope I end up being wrong and he is a success.

Good question

Just hire competent people and you won't need to do stuff like this.

j/c:

I posted this in the Schemes thread, but it applies here as well.

Here's an example of when analytics and coaches meeting up to discuss would be beneficial, whereas, Freddie just ignored the numbers...

its funny seeing people on twitter try to defend haslam.

how many coaches have we've been through under his watch? how many erratic firings and questionable hirings have we've had under his watch?

now we're suppose to believe he's doing things the correct way? man please. the only reason why any of us tolerate haslam is because we literally have no choice as fans of this team, or he would've been voted off the island a while back.

Well now that's just bu....

That actually makes a ton of sense.

So, who is going to call the plays next season?

So, like, have your analytics group identify strengths and weaknesses of an opponent and make sure the coaches have a game plan that meshes with that?


Balderdash!! The nerve! Harumph!

The fans. They’re going to take them from a live Twitter feed.

I wonder if that's how things were being done last season. Monken said that there were plays being called that had not been practiced ..... what if those were Haslam decisions?

DePodesta

I wanted Rivera or McCarthy or even McDaniels.

Stefanski really impressed me with his offensive scheme yesterday.

Great Hire!!!...LOL!

Post of the decade.

Not allowed. The sideline cannot have communications with anyone during a game....and also, the complete opposite of how the above statement would work.

J/C

Not surprised that a board which leans "feelings over facts" is struggling to understand why a data driven approach is good for football.

Not joking. I'd throw a ton of money at Warren Sharp to work for the team. Baseball and basketball teams did this during their own analytical revolutions, hire every good analyst you can so that other teams can't have their info anymore.

It will probably be lost in the desire for folks to push their specific narrative

But ...

A quote from the canton rep article where this supposed insight into the interview process says

“What follows is our belief about the elements of Stefanski’s interview Thursday and McDaniels’ interview Friday that left Stefanski as Haslam’s seventh head coach since he bought the team in 2012.”

https://www.boston.com/sports/new-englan...ichick-patriots



https://www.mcall.com/sports/eagles/mc-spt-eagles-doug-pederson-analytics-20170926-story.html

Ravens, Patriots, Eagles.

I understand the people who don't trust Haslam. He is a horrible owner. The worst. I don't trust him either.

That doesn't mean analytics are bad and shouldn't be used. More information is better than less information. Knowledge is power.