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Baylor HC Matt Rhule declined the chance to interview for the Cleveland Browns head coaching job

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1212018148213448706


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Originally Posted By: GratefulDawg
Baylor HC Matt Rhule declined the chance to interview for the Cleveland Browns head coaching job

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1212018148213448706


I forgot about him. He only interviewed for one job. If he didn't get the Panthers job he was going back to Baylor. Every other person who we requested an interview with interviewed for the job as far as we know and would have taken it if offered.

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We don't know that. We don't know who it was offered to and who it wasn't. We don't know who turned it down or walked away based on this new structuew Halsm wanted to institute.

What we do know is the man who took the job allowed Haslam to dictate the meetings and structure Haslam wanted in order to take the position. It's hard for me to imagine that successful coaches would be willing to accept some of those terms.


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What we do know is the man who took the job allowed Haslam to dictate the meetings and structure Haslam wanted in order to take the position.


We know that? But we don't know this?

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We don't know that. We don't know who it was offered to and who it wasn't. We don't know who turned it down or walked away based on this new structuew Halsm wanted to institute.


Let's be real. We don't know anything yet.

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We do know that Stefanski accepted the new structure Haslam laid out. If he didn't he wouldn't be our HC right now.

Other than that I said we didn't know the other parts.

You're the one who made this assertion, not me.....

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Every other person who we requested an interview with interviewed for the job as far as we know and would have taken it if offered.


But you are right that we don't know any of that.


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Originally Posted By: GratefulDawg
Baylor HC Matt Rhule declined the chance to interview for the Cleveland Browns head coaching job

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1212018148213448706


I forgot about him. He only interviewed for one job. If he didn't get the Panthers job he was going back to Baylor. Every other person who we requested an interview with interviewed for the job as far as we know and would have taken it if offered.


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Former #Rams DC Wade Phillips has been discussed as a possible defensive coordinator for #Browns coach Kevin Stefanki, source tells clevelanddotcom



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Former #Rams DC Wade Phillips has been discussed as a possible defensive coordinator for #Browns coach Kevin Stefanki, source tells clevelanddotcom



Besides him changing our D to a 3-4 how old is he now?


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Wade is old ... his experience would be nice though I’m not sure the scheme is good?


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Besides him changing our D to a 3-4 how old is he now?

He's 72 ... I don't care, I think he'd be a damn good hire as DC.


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Besides him changing our D to a 3-4 how old is he now?

He's 72 ... I don't care, I think he'd be a damn good hire as DC.


Didn't say he wasn't a great coach, but I'm not a fan of the 3-4 and I thought he was older than that also ...


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I'd be okay with Wade Phillips, but I don't want to see Myles Garrett standing up, or in coverage.

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I know you didn't say that Pastor! I was speaking for myself. I'm a big fan of past coordinators turned HC returning to coordinator roles ... they tend to be good.

With so much of the D run out of non-base formations, I really don't think we'd see MG standing up or playing OLB.


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Besides him changing our D to a 3-4 how old is he now?

He's 72 ... I don't care, I think he'd be a damn good hire as DC.


Didn't say he wasn't a great coach, but I'm not a fan of the 3-4 and I thought he was older than that also ...




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What jumps out is the fact that while Wade runs a "system" the system is not what determines how Phillips uses his players, it's the player's skillset. This is one very understated characteristic of a good coach or teacher in my estimation--one who will get the best out of their player's by utilizing their skillset.


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Its just that I remember the Browns' DC way back (Fazio? Grantham?) put an elite DE (Courtney Brown) into an OLB role in the 3-4, and it annoyed the bleep out of me. When he was healthy (which was rare) C Brown was a freak who could play DE in any scheme, and there he was, chasing after 3rd option RB's running a checkdown pattern in the flat. I think the same about Myles. He could play OLB in a 3-4, but its a terrible waste of his considerable ability to rush the passer - from virtually any spot on the DL.

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It was reported that this was regarding Front Office personnel, not coaches.

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But could Wade work with a young coach. Oh, wait...

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Wade would be an excellent DC to pair for the next 3-5 years. Plus I doubt he has any HC aspirations at this point, and he wants to coach this year.

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Benjemin Albright must be in the analytics side of football.Nobody that has even the most rudimentary knowledge would mistake a4-3 with standup ends with a3-4.
I have always associated Coach Phillips with the 34,and a damned good coach of it.


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Wade would be grewt.." he's great at turning defenses around....


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Wade would be grewt.." he's great at turning defenses around....


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Wade would be grewt.." he's great at turning defenses around....


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Wade Phillips in the fold ...


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Wade would be an excellent DC to pair for the next 3-5 years. Plus I doubt he has any HC aspirations at this point, and he wants to coach this year.


Yeah, I would love the Wade Phillips hire. He's been good or great everywhere he's been DC. He's even had several top 5 Ds at 3 different teams!

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Hire Wade Phillips and the new head coach doesn't have to worry about the defense.

It will cost us in the long run as Myles Garrett will probably have 30 sacks next season.

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Throw boatloads of money at Wade Phillips and your new HC won't have to worry about that side of the ball.


You really want to switch back to a 3-4 again? That means scrapping the entire defensive line we have just built. It also means trading away Miles Garrett. He does not fit in a 3-4. He is NOT a linebacker. If you want to do yet another complete rebuild of the D then, by all means, bring in Phillips. We can try to draft a nose at #10 Then fine two 3-4 style Ends in the 2nd and 3rd or in FA. Oh, and you better plan on finding some linebackers that fit too.


So you don't know how defenses work in 2020?

Good to know.


So there is NO difference between how he coaches D and how we played? We won't need a Nose? We won't need linebackers? Right. All I know is we line up FOUR defensive linemen and they PLAY the line. As long as Phillips does that every single down I don't care what he does with the other guys. But we line up with FOUR linemen and they don't play linebacker. Period. If he is cool with that then great. The MINUTE he tries making Garrett play linebacker we might as well trade the guy. I know that much. But you think what you like since you're so smart. *snicker*


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Wade would be grewt.." he's great at turning defenses around....


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For 10 seconds I thought SaintDawg was claiming to be Wade Phillips.

My eyes aren't so grate.< wink

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Baylor HC Matt Rhule declined the chance to interview for the Cleveland Browns head coaching job

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1212018148213448706


I forgot about him. He only interviewed for one job. If he didn't get the Panthers job he was going back to Baylor. Every other person who we requested an interview with interviewed for the job as far as we know and would have taken it if offered.
That's not entirely true. He did only interview for Panthers, however he was set to interview with the Giants. He called them actually and told them if they are willing to match the offer the Panthers were giving, he would interview with them still. The Giants declined.

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Hire Wade on a show me two-year. This new HC will need a mentor and some personal advice and assistance. If Wade can do some of that, the staff is in a better place. Don't want owner/FO over management.


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Not that it matters much, I guess, but Wade's defense is closer to a 4-3 than 3-4. But none of that really matters. He's going to love the players here and use them accordingly. There won't need to be any sweeping changes in defensive personnel.

Wade Phillips has been coaching in the NFL longer than maybe most people on this board have been alive. It's gonna be ok.

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Getting Wade Philips would be an absolute coup.


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Getting Wade Philips would be an absolute coup.


I'm not sure about that., Doesn't he use the 3-4 and might that not need to have Vernon and Garrett switch to LB's?

Just wondering... Like said, I'm not sure.


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articles posted that his D is based on a 4-3 over or under. it's a 4-3 base just that one of the DE's is standing up. Add to that the argument about how often D's are in their base formation .... I'd love an experienced and credible guy that could manage one side of the ball by himself ...


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I'm not sure about that., Doesn't he use the 3-4 and might that not need to have Vernon and Garrett switch to LB's?


No.

Also, I won't be surprised if Vernon is released. $15.5M in cap savings and $0 dead cap. The guy has now been injured three years in a row.

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articles posted that his D is based on a 4-3 over or under. it's a 4-3 base just that one of the DE's is standing up. Add to that the argument about how often D's are in their base formation .... I'd love an experienced and credible guy that could manage one side of the ball by himself ...
Agreed. I don't think it would be a huge difference. My concern with him would be his age - but if he is coming in grooming someone to take over, I can overlook that.

He has been a good DC for a long, long time.

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I'm not sure about that., Doesn't he use the 3-4 and might that not need to have Vernon and Garrett switch to LB's?


No.

Also, I won't be surprised if Vernon is released. $15.5M in cap savings and $0 dead cap. The guy has now been injured three years in a row.
I expect him to be the first to go.

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