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Originally Posted By: MemphisBrownie
Looks like Hue Jackson.....don't like him.
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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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From Woods wikipedia:

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In Woods’ first season as defensive coordinator in 2017, the Broncos finished third in the NFL in total defense, giving up just 290.0 yards per game. The Broncos’ fifth-ranked run defense in 2017 was particularly impressive as it improved by more than 40 yards per game after finishing 28th in the NFL in 2016.[10]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Woods_(American_football)

Denver was 11th in defensive DVOA in 2017 and 5th in 2018.

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I thought that we were talking to Wade Phillips? Guess not


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I like this hire - he did a very good job in Denver, it would appear, when he was DC.

https://www.denverpost.com/2017/02/08/joe-woods-denver-broncos-defense-responsibility/

EDIT: Also this though - https://247sports.com/nfl/denver-broncos...oods-123082164/

Took over Phillips' 3-4 - wonder what his preference is.

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so the defense in denver was elite. thats a good sign.

why was he not the DC in San Fran?


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so the defense in denver was elite. thats a good sign.

why was he not the DC in San Fran?


I'm assuming because Shanahan already had Saleh in place and liked the job he was doing. He may have brought in Woods with the intention of him being Saleh's replacement if he got a HC job.


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that makes perfect sense from the San fran aspect. thanks.

but that begs another question(s): was he not offered a DC gig anywhere else? why take the demotion?


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NFL network says we are hiring a former Miami OC for some kind of positions coach.


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I’m not surprised ... OBJ and Landry need a disciplined coach not a friend


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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James Campen (OL Coach) will not be retained


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Head coach/play caller - Freddie Kitchens
Associate head coach/offensive line – James Campen
Special assistant to head coach – Jody Wright
Offensive coordinator – Todd Monken
Quarterbacks – Ryan Lindley
Run game coordinator/running backs – Stump Mitchell
Wide receivers – Adam Henry
Tight ends – John Lilly
Assistant offensive line – Jeff Blasko
Offensive quality control – Jim Dray
Offensive quality control – Tyler Tettleton

Defensive coordinator – Steve Wilks
Defensive line – Tosh Lupoi
Assistant defensive line – John Parrella
Run game coordinator/linebackers – Al Holcomb
Pass game coordinator/secondary – Joe Whitt Jr.
Defensive backs – DeWayne Walker
Senior defensive assistant – Chris Jones
Defensive quality control – Deuce Schwartz
Defensive quality control – Alonso Escalante

Special teams coordinator – Mike Priefer
Assistant special teams – Doug Colman

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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Head coach/play caller - Freddie Kitchens
Associate head coach/offensive line – James Campen
Special assistant to head coach – Jody Wright
Offensive coordinator – Todd Monken
Quarterbacks – Ryan Lindley
Run game coordinator/running backs – Stump Mitchell
Wide receivers – Adam Henry
Tight ends – John Lilly
Assistant offensive line – Jeff Blasko
Offensive quality control – Jim Dray
Offensive quality control – Tyler Tettleton

Defensive coordinator – Steve Wilks
Defensive line – Tosh Lupoi
Assistant defensive line – John Parrella
Run game coordinator/linebackers – Al Holcomb
Pass game coordinator/secondary – Joe Whitt Jr.
Defensive backs – DeWayne Walker
Senior defensive assistant – Chris Jones
Defensive quality control – Deuce Schwartz
Defensive quality control – Alonso Escalante

Special teams coordinator – Mike Priefer
Assistant special teams – Doug Colman


I like this turnover. I was a bit spooked when Haslam made it sound like 90% of this staff could be retained. That would be a disaster to shackle a new coach with left overs from a failed experiment.

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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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NFL network says we are hiring a former Miami OC for some kind of positions coach.



Chad O'Shea, wide receivers/passing game coordinator. 10 years as wide receivers coach with New England.

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Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
James Campen (OL Coach) will not be retained


Addition by subtraction cool


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James Campen (OL Coach) will not be retained


Addition by subtraction cool


You know something I don't know?

He was one of the few I wanted to keep.

I'm not super upset because we're going to a new blocking scheme, but it's not his fault Dorsey gave him no tackles or that Baker constantly drifted back where they couldn't slingshot guys behind him.


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Originally Posted By: Bull_Dawg
I'm not super upset because we're going to a new blocking scheme, but it's not his fault Dorsey gave him no tackles or that Baker constantly drifted back where they couldn't slingshot guys behind him.


IMO...Baker drifted back because whatever folding chair we put in Zeitler's old spot got blown up all-to-often to trust...leaving no where to stay. That poor decision on player talent evaluation at OG threw gasoline on the decision to ignore the OTs.

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I thought Wylie did a much better job than Campen. I was not happy when we made that switch, and Campen did nothing to prove me wrong.


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Sorry to lose Campen. Given what he had and FK and poor play of BM, well, he battled. Not sorry to see the DC go. Interested in seeing who that might be. Start with tackling and CBs play.


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Rick Dennison, perhaps.

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I'm not super upset because we're going to a new blocking scheme, but it's not his fault Dorsey gave him no tackles or that Baker constantly drifted back where they couldn't slingshot guys behind him.


IMO...Baker drifted back because whatever folding chair we put in Zeitler's old spot got blown up all-to-often to trust...leaving no where to stay. That poor decision on player talent evaluation at OG threw gasoline on the decision to ignore the OTs.



I agree. I have long felt a stout interior line is more important that having great tackles. As bull said, as long as the QB has the ability to move up in the pocket, that wrecks the outside rusher angles. As long as the tackle doesn't get beat inside from the beginning, the QB moving up puts the tackle back in to blocking position.

I hope we sign both a tackle and guard in FA, and draft 1 of each in the draft. If we do that, the offense is largely fixed.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
that makes perfect sense from the San fran aspect. thanks.

but that begs another question(s): was he not offered a DC gig anywhere else? why take the demotion?


It seems like him and Stefanski were friends and probably talked about them working together someday. One in charge of the O the other the D and whoever which one of them were the HC was just the wait to happen. This is actually a good framework of successful coaches. Dreaming and planning of the day to be HC of a team and have several individuals IN ON THAT DREAM which seems to be the case here.

Woods looks like the man.

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Oh yeah, I Forgot About Dray

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Apparently the GM will be Paton and the DC Woods.

Have not heard anything about the OC??

This is where Mayfield comes into play. The OC and quarterback coach.

KS of course will be heavily involved in the offense.

However, the OC needs to be a guy who has authority and impact.

Monken and Freddie were a bad mix.

So KS needs an OC who sees offensive strategies in the same light. At the same time the OC needs to be a person who brings something to the table not just a rubber stamp.

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Originally Posted By: Bard Dawg
Sorry to lose Campen.


While we ran a zone blocking scheme some last year it is not Campen's specialty. Hiring someone from the Shanahan/Kubiak tree makes a bunch more sense.

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Originally Posted By: bonefish

[color:#FFCC33]Apparently the GM will be Paton and the DC Woods.

Have not heard anything about the OC??


I think we are waiting on the 49ers to be done playing to get a shot at LaFleur and McDaniel.

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There is a report about this guy:

Rich Scangarello.

https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-brow...ator-142410882/

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Originally Posted By: bonefish
There is a report about this guy:

Rich Scangarello.

https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-brow...ator-142410882/


I think he ends up in the staff but only as the OC if other options falter.

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Successful framework is something we never had here, so I certainly hope you’re right bro.


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Looks like we are working the process and the process isn't working us.


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Browns will retain Stump Mitchell as RB coach.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20...-running-backs/

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Tackles are tackles.
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Tom Pelissero on Twitter:

Browns are expected to hire Bill Callahan to coach their Offensive Line.

https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1219376178257186816

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I like that there is real effort, or at least the appearance of real effort, to look at what we have already in-house before looking outside.

I'm not going to get my hopes up, or set expectations, but it would be great to see this carry over with whomever the new GM is when it comes to the players' roster.

The old way of getting rid of "their guys" to bring in "my guys" and all the ego that drives that sort of small-minded inferiority complex-type thinking MUST get left in the past. If we are ever going to move this franchise forward, it has to begin with a complete overhaul of how we THINK.


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Agreed, was about to say just about the exact same thing. It shows that ego is in check, that whoever is making these decisions is being coolly rational, a management trait that’s very under rated. Have no idea (but plenty of conditioned doubts) if this will all be successful or not but at least there seems to be some brains being used in the process this time around. We’ll see. Callahan is a real get IMO.




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