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The most important statement made about this entire impeachment process was made by Texas Congressman Al Green when he said "if we don’t impeach him, he might win.”

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi held the impeachment documents for nearly a month, which means there is no existential threat. There is no national-security threat.

It is my opinion the Democrats greatest fears are coming true due to Trump’s success as President.

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It is my opinion the Democrats greatest fears are coming true due to Trump’s success as President.


Medicine may help with that.

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It is my opinion the Democrats greatest fears are coming true due to Trump’s success as President.


This is my opinion also. We've got 4 new voters in the family this year that have informed me they will be voting for the re-election of this President...

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Please show me where in The Constitution that the President is supposed to sit in-front of the house when they are debating of voting for impeachment.

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It's the word "trial."
Folk who haven't read about this process think it should look like



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It is my opinion the Democrats greatest fears are coming true due to Trump’s success as President.


This is my opinion also. We've got 4 new voters in the family this year that have informed me they will be voting for the re-election of this President...


When you guys believe everything Trump has spoon fed you, that's exactly what you will think.

How you can trust a mans word that has lied over 15,000 times in the last three years never ceases to amaze me.


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Originally Posted By: fishtheice
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It is my opinion the Democrats greatest fears are coming true due to Trump’s success as President.


This is my opinion also. We've got 4 new voters in the family this year that have informed me they will be voting for the re-election of this President...



Four more uninformed voters. Sad.
I hope if they’re women they bring a man like trump home to meet the family. Lying, cheating, boastful, arrogant, sexually inappropriate, intellectually week... I’m sure he’d be well received by mom and dad.


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It's so funny watching the clown show make excuses for why Trump has obstructed every witness form testifying he knows will prove him guilty.


What is really funny is watching you guys showing your true colors...

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., the number-two Democrat in the House, defended the House's impeachment inquiry last month by remarking that Trump was afforded "every opportunity to prove his innocence."

"We allowed him every opportunity to come prove his innocence,"???

Since when does the Constitution demand Guilty until Proven Innocent?

This is a very revealing statement for anybody who's concerned about Constitutional rights!

SHAME!


Trump was offered plenty of chances to bring witnesses to testify at the House Hearings. Did he do that? NO HE DIDN"T>>.

So don't be a complete ARSE and say he wasn't offered and opportunity to defend himself.

He was told he could come and sit in front of the house committee to answer any questions he was asked. He was told he could come and make a statement.

Do you wanna know why I think he wouldn't do that? he's a freaking chicken.. no guts.. All mouth.

You wanna know about true colors, look in the mirror.. Get your facts straight..


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More than anything else that is what is so disturbing.

I get the 30% that are a lost cause. Just life.

But the additional 10%??

I gave more credit to Americans than that.

trump could not tell the truth if it was tattooed to his forehead and he was staring at a mirror.

Let alone his low life character. Add in his policies both domestic and foreign.

The worst president in history by any measure.


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Trump refuses to participate in House impeachment proceedings

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2...res-impeachment


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Possibly the dumbest comments I've read on here... Yikes

The Accused and his attorney say he didn't do it... Well hell, let's just stop there, he said he didn't do it rofl


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I heard this morning on NPR that how this might go that some are not talking about.
He was saying that McConnell is going to be firmly in Trumps corner until the polls start showing that some of the republican senators in tight races start getting out spent or the poll numbers start dropping and it looks like the Senate is in play in Novemnber-And IF that happens, Mitch will flip Trump.
McConnell may seem like a Trump sycophant, but he will work to keep the Senate majority leadership at any cost...and that includes dumping Trump

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Originally Posted By: Damanshot
Possibly the dumbest comments I've read on here... Yikes

The Accused and his attorney say he didn't do it... Well hell, let's just stop there, he said he didn't do it rofl



No, there were far dumber things that were said around here.
Lemme help you...

OH OH they got Manifort! Trump is done!!! rofl

OH OH they got Cohen to flip! Trump is done!!! rofl

OH OH Mueller's report is out! Trump is done!!! rofl

OH OH Lev Parnas .............

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Why is it funny that trump is associated with criminals?

Birds of a feather....


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https://www.sacbee.com/opinion/editorials/article239465588.html

Nunes and his staff all in on the Ukraine thing... Then he sits on the committee to investigate... Ha. As the article says, no doubt none of his constituents would be able to get Nunes on the phone.


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Why is it funny that trump is associated with criminals?

Birds of a feather....


40 doesn't get that part


Trump is clearly the "Don" of an unorganized crime family.. And guys like 40 think that's ok...

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thats because guys like 40 have ideologies that make themselves open to authoritarian rule in totalitarian regimes.

its why the pope is so popular. people constantly looking for one man to tell them how to live. 40 and his ilk are no different.


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Well if McConnell gets his rules through unchanged today, the impeachment is over. Trump will get a pass and we will officially be an oligarchy ruled by an authoritarian, well on our way to dictatorship. 40 and his ilk will have destroyed everything that was America for the last 250 years.

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What surprises me is if anyone thought it would turn out any different than that.

Let's face it, Bill Clinton committed perjury under oath and wasn't removed from office. Why anyone actually thought Trump would be removed from office still amazes me.


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I never expected them to remove him, but I did expect at least the resemblance of an actual fair unbiased trial. This is shaping up to be a third world farce trial where they report the outcome months before the trial begins.

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I set my expectations on exactly what Washington has shown me for many years now. An extreme partisan divide with the party on power using every tool at their disposal.

If you keep that in mind moving forward you won't be disappointed.


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Well if McConnell gets his rules through unchanged today, the impeachment is over. Trump will get a pass and we will officially be an oligarchy ruled by an authoritarian, well on our way to dictatorship. 40 and his ilk will have destroyed everything that was America for the last 250 years.


The impeachment was over when the House came up with zero impeachable offenses in a one sided, Democrat only farce for the history books.

They have made a mockery of our Constitution, Bill of Rights and the impeachment process itself.

Now the Senate will try the case on its merits.

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Why is it funny that trump is associated with criminals?

Birds of a feather....


40 doesn't get that part


Trump is clearly the "Don" of an unorganized crime family.. And guys like 40 think that's ok...


First Trump was a Russian Operative.
Next a Traitor.
Then a Dictator.
Now a Mafia Don.

Blind hate is truly blind. notallthere

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Pretending Trump didn't commit impeachable acts is blind faith in a habitual liar.


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j/c

Just a little impeachment humor to lighten the mood.

Donald Trump, "I just got impeached for making the perfect phone call!".

To which Bill Cosby replies, "That's nothing. I just got sent to prison for making the perfect cocktail!".


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https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020...ek-in-politics/


If upon hearing this you are not disgusted then there is no hope for you.

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Well if McConnell gets his rules through unchanged today, the impeachment is over. Trump will get a pass and we will officially be an oligarchy ruled by an authoritarian, well on our way to dictatorship. 40 and his ilk will have destroyed everything that was America for the last 250 years.


The impeachment was over when the House came up with zero impeachable offenses in a one sided, Democrat only farce for the history books.

They have made a mockery of our Constitution, Bill of Rights and the impeachment process itself.

Now the Senate will try the case on its merits.


Only a fool would believe there is no there there on this one. Anything less than a conviction and removal will be a Trumpian cover up unless some unknown evidence or testimony exonerates Trump at some point. The left will never let America forget what this POTUS is or what he has done. Expect another BIG BLUE WAVE in November my friend.

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Well if McConnell gets his rules through unchanged today, the impeachment is over. Trump will get a pass and we will officially be an oligarchy ruled by an authoritarian, well on our way to dictatorship. 40 and his ilk will have destroyed everything that was America for the last 250 years.


The impeachment was over when the House came up with zero impeachable offenses in a one sided, Democrat only farce for the history books.

They have made a mockery of our Constitution, Bill of Rights and the impeachment process itself.

Now the Senate will try the case on its merits.


Only a fool would believe there is no there there on this one. Anything less than a conviction and removal will be a Trumpian cover up unless some unknown evidence or testimony exonerates Trump at some point. The left will never let America forget what this POTUS is or what he has done. Expect another BIG BLUE WAVE in November my friend.


Only a fool can find Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors from this one sided circus.

Even Mitt Romney, who hates Trump, said the Democrats running around crying outrage time and time again make a mistake because if everything is an outrage then nothing is an outrage.

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Trump's guilt is as plain as the nose on your face, but you don't see that either unless you reflect upon it.

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https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020...ek-in-politics/


If upon hearing this you are not disgusted then there is no hope for you.


So, an author trying to sell her book says these things were said, and of course the obligatory "....these are people, who, in their DNA don't talk to reporters..." but they spoke with her? Anonymously, of course.

Look, she's trying to sell a book.

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https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020...ek-in-politics/


If upon hearing this you are not disgusted then there is no hope for you.


So, an author trying to sell her book says these things were said, and of course the obligatory "....these are people, who, in their DNA don't talk to reporters..." but they spoke with her? Anonymously, of course.

Look, she's trying to sell a book.

Maybe
Or maybe they are real journalists and they have the inside story of Trump's administration.

You'll never know because you are closed and I guess you can only judge others the way you think and behave yourself.

I watched the interview and thought it credible. No doubt you'll accuse Bone and I of already having made our minds up on Trump? Not really. I believe these journalists in a way I don't believe Parnas .... But I think Parnas involvement with Guiliani is plenty damning even if I don't bey everything he says.

Bottom line is Trump has been impeached. One side wants a trial as is right and proper. The other side wants to aquit without seeing any sort of evidence and sweep this under the rug. The unthinking like 40 can spew the Moscow Mitch and Trump lines .... But bottom line is at this point trying to gazump the system that is in place as check and balance on the POTUS is as dangerous as it is asinine.


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There is so much verified evidence as to what trump is one would have to be deaf, dumb, and blind to ignore it.


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Willfully ignorant.

Guess posters egos don't want to accept that they have blindly supported this piece of trash and would rather bury the truth and screw the USA than admit.


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Politics in general is hard to stomach. Even when you know how the game is played.

Lies and hypocrisy are the norm.

The republican senators have to look in the mirror each morning knowing this is a sham.

I couldn't handle it. Could not be in politics.

It is hard enough just slightly paying attention. It makes me sick.

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That's cool and all. I'm glad these anonymous people that have in their dna to not talk to reporters, "actually" spoke to this lady that wrote a book.

And you are correct. Trump HAS been impeached. That fact will never change. You say one side wants a trial? The very "impartial" house did what they did, but now they want to tell the senate how to proceed??>?> Nancy did her thing..........all with the caveat that she would hold the articles of impeachment until she knew the arena they would be in.

Hey - it ain't her job. The biased house did what she thought was wanted. Now, let the senate do what they need to do. Fairly simple. Why, if the impeachment articles were a dire national security threat, why would she wait a month or so to send them to the senate? Must not have been so dire?

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Ya know, I have a friend that runs a very large company in Chicago. Centro. On facebook today he asked the question "does anyone think schumer and Mocconnel are sitting in one of their offices right now, drinking bourbon and laughing? I said yes.

I know 3 county commissioners that traveled to DC to testify a number of years ago. They said everything you see on tv, or in the media? It's a show. The animosity between parties? After the day is done, they show up at the bar and drink and laugh.

My dad even was called to DC to testify about a medical/hmo issue. He didn't get to testify, but he said the same thing: What the press tells you is not how it is. It's a big swamp in DC.

and that was years before trump even considered running.

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I should add, Shawn, CEO of centro, is about as liberal as anyone could be.


Corruption is everywhere, and depending on your part, you only see it from the other party.

And I'll add this. Damn proud of it. About 15 years ago, auditors went to my dad's place of employment. Walked in to the accounting office, flashed their badges and said "We need to see the CEO's expense account." They were told "he doesn't have an expense account with us."

Well, when he takes doctors out to eat, to wine and dine them, when he goes to seminars in Columbus, or Arizona, or California, how does he pay for it?" They said they didn't know, but the hospital didn't pay.

They got all kinds of records. Then they went to talk to my dad. "How do you pay for taking doctors out to eat, and going to seminars, hotel rooms, rental cars, airfare?" etc.

Dad simply said "I pay for it out of my pocket/personal credit card. I don't have receipts here, but I can get them."

That, folks, is how I was raised. I am as true as you can come across, thanks in part to my parents, and what they taught me. I'm forever grateful to them for that.

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Why, if the impeachment articles were a dire national security threat, why would she wait a month or so to send them to the senate?


See, this is where you seem to parrot right wing propaganda without thinking. What poppycock is this ?


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Why, if the impeachment articles were a dire national security threat, why would she wait a month or so to send them to the senate?


See, this is where you seem to parrot right wing propaganda without thinking. What poppycock is this ?


If the trumps investigation into Ukraine corruption was so important why didn’t it happen.


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