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Didn't see that coming. Daniel Jones' turn...

I thought he may try to sign with Jax, Indy, Chicago, or a team that needs a QB ... but clearly not in the plans. Well done Eli

Yeah, two SBs and a long, very good career. Best Brady twice in the big game.

Next stop, Canton. Good job Eli!!!

If I were the dad, I'd be over the moon proud of them as ball players, but more so because they both seemed to have grown up as GOOD MEN.

Good job Eli,,, All the best

This happens right after there were rumors about the Giants bringing Kitchens to the staff.

All of the Mannings have set high standards.

Well done.

And more money in the family, too.

Not to mention a grandson who is being recruited by colleges (Cooper's son).

Eli shouldn't make the Hall of Fame. He might make it. He shouldn't.

Agree ...

Eli’s overrated ... he was however a great big game QB unlike his bro ...

He's always been a hot and cold QB. Streaky.

When comparing Eli to other quarterbacks in NFL history he is above-average. When comparing Eli to his contemporaries he is average at best. Eli Manning got hot two times and the exact right time. He won two Super Bowls because of it. He is not a Hall of Famer (even though he might make it).

MOST of the others in the HOF ...

I think you under rate him a bit. I would say he was better than most of the other HOF QB's but yeah, he has lots of company in that top 20%

In before Phillip Rivers retires. I bet he makes the announcement in the days after the Superbowl.

Rumors are that Rivers ends up playing for the Bucs next year.

Could be. They just moved to Flordia. Both he and his wife are from Alabama and wanted to get closer to family.

That or maybe he rides out with one of the Florida teams. Miami is probably drafting a QB.. Maybe it would be wise to let the kid sit behind a guy like Rivers for a year or two.

Maybe Tampa moves on from Winston and want Rivers as a bridge?

Arians likes to stretch the field ... not Phils strong suit ... but who knows Arians has a very good O mind and I’m sure he can adjust ...

Arians can say what he wants but I don’t see him sticking with the turnover machine Winston is ...

I have no idea where Rivers will end up, but the Tampa scenario seems the most likely of the choices.

Wow, had no idea he just moved. I used to live in the same suburb as he did. This was a guy that had a special car built so that he could get chauffeured daily to LA to practice with the Chargers without having to uproot his family or live in an apartment away from them during the season. If he just moved to the Florida Panhandle, it would seem to point towards retirement in my estimation.

He said he wants to keep playing.

If he keeps playing I think it is more likely he is in Jaxonville than Tampa Bay.

J/c

It brings up a good question that was being talked about today:

How would you rank the 3 QBs from the top of that draft class? Eli, Ben, Rivers

Me:
1. Ben
2. Rivers
3. Eli

Roethlisberger, Rivers








Manning

The ironic part of that ...

Eli’s dad rightfully so IMO said heck no to his kid going to SD ... so Eli ends up with the gnats ... Rivers ends up in SD ...

The bolts get the better QB by default but Eli gets 2 rings .... life is funny sometimes .. *L* ...

Regular Season:

1. Ben is by far the most accomplished statistically and win wise, but always had the stability of the organization. Rookie year went 15-1 with crazy good run game and top notch D.


2. Philip, I dunno. San Diego is a tough one. Really no idea how he hasn't won an SB. Either they're just cursed like Cleveland or Rivers just isn't clutch.

3. Eli also had a good D and good talent around him for most years, but not all. Also had to suffer through a couple years of Shurmur and other New York drama.

Playoffs:

1. Manning
2. Rapelsburger
3. Rivers

I'm probably the only person that will rank it like this, but the 2 years Ben won the Super Bowl they relied on Defense (remember Harrison's super long fumble return for TD vs Cardinals? or the Bus's last year when they became first team to win as a Wild Card?)

The only year Ben was asked to win the big one, he got out dueled by Rodgers.

And say what you want about all Manning's regular season struggles. Those 2 years he won the Super Bowl he played like a man on fire. He had the look in his eyes that just said he will not be beaten and then delivered.

Yes his team came through with nice defensive stops and of course "the helmet catch" but his will is what kept them going. Before "the helmet catch" he actually makes a crazy nice play in the pocket to escape pressure for ages before finally heaving it.

I've never seen Ben do this. When Ben gets fired up his team just hates him and calls him a brat. (same with Rivers come to think of it, his team always seems to turn on him)

If I had to take any of these 3 guys for just ONE Super Bowl game, I'm taking Manning as my starter.

(I'm talking in their primes, not last couple years broken arm Pat Shurmer coached Manning)

I dunno... dude had two playoff runs and four times bowed it of the playoffs first game....

Good career... will probably get into the hall but he was an average qb with two great playoff runs...

The 1980 Raiders beg to differ with you. I will never forget Red Right 88.

I stand corrected on that point. An announcer said it once and it stuck with me, but after a quick google you are correct the Raiders were the first and there were 3 others before the Steelers.

I wasn’t alive for it, but I’ve seen highlights of Red Right 88. Was it really that cold to not kick the FG?

It was that cold. Here is a discussion on youtube and it shows an earlier FG attempt. Look at the icicles on the mustaches. It was a frigid heartbreaker .. sighs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOa9gU_2GWg

Thanks I hadn’t seen that before

Maybe, but he's got two superbowl rings....

I would put him in right after Clay Matthews. FWIW.