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This has to be in the running. My fave, SRV. He was really on for this one.



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I see your SRV and I raise you David Gilmour.


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Solo exerpt from Garica Band performance of Van Morrison's "He Ain't Give You None" from Hampton 1991. Great example of Jerry's later guitar work with his band. Sweet stuff.



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Know what's great about threads like this?

1. The subjective nature of the subject matter demands that no clear-cut consensus winner will ever be crowned.
2. We get to hear a lot of great music during the discussion.


p.s. I rarely dive into 'full participation mode' on these threads because I'd rather read what's important to others. It's good ed for me.


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OK... I will say a li'l something, but I promise I'm not gonna hog the bandwidth and go all 'full perfesser' in here. I just gotta share a take.

The first two vids in the thread show how wide a net the Blues casts... and how central it is to the R&R genre.

SRV's use of the Blues form is a scaffold for his prodigious catalog of amazing gestures, statements, and left hand sleight-of-hand. He's a top-shelf speed merchant with Texas roadhouse sensibilities. End result: a "thrill a minute" roller coaster ride where you stop, and rewind a piece of the track saying, "Wait- what? He didn't just say what I think he said, did he?"

And that particular track? That Blues wasn't just dirty. It was freakkin' filthy.

Truly satisfying.

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DG's use of the Blues form is more compositional/architectural. He's a master of 'the slow build'... and needs 3-4 choruses to construct a "MLK-type speech over chord changes." Like a Jazz front man. Floyd's music is spacious, so it gives Gilmour the luxury of extending live solos at any pace he chooses.

One of the hardest skills to master as an improviser is learning what not to say. Music needs to breathe, if it's to be received organically, and that means giving the listener space in between the sounds. Gilmour is the absolute best in this regard. He replaces note density with note selection. It's the exact opposite of SRV's approach.

The quintessential David Gilmour guitar solo has three hallmark elements:

1. It always follows the 'slow build' model
2. The solos almost never feature high-speed pyrotechnics, though there is ample evidence that Gilmour could shred with the best.
3. It always has a soaring, melodic quality that takes the listener on a journey. When you finish a Gilmour solo, it feels like you just finished a great novel. And he did it in 4± minutes.

Two entirely different examples of how versatile and adaptable the Blues scale can be.

OK... I get a rare weekend evening off, and what do I do? Ramble on about cousins who do what I do. That's what I do.

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Blues form.... killin' it.

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Because Bass is relevant.

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Bass is the subject for a totally 'nother thread, Sis.

Who's your 'Treble God?'


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Slashes guitar play on GNR’s “Sweet Child of Mine” is fabulous. Absolutely love it.

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I dont really have one.

If we have a "most complete musician" thread then I have an opinion.

Edit: Re: Clem's post.

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Going to see him perform on 3/7 at Cleveland's Connor Palace...


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Those first three Black Sabbath albums are up there in the top 20 blues albums of all time.

Geezer Butler is an unsung hero that gets overshadowed by Iommi and Ozzy.

Iommi’s got some great chops for solos, and he could go toe to toe with Gilmour. He’s a weird mix of SRV and Gilmour...while missing finger tips at that!

I’d also shoutout James Hetfield as a good blues guitarist. Look up an acoustic rendition of The Four Horsemen. Stuff is incredible.

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Let’s add just a bit of Mark Knopfler.




and some Carlos Santana.



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Quote:
Iommi’s got some great chops for solos, and he could go toe to toe with Gilmour. He’s a weird mix of SRV and Gilmour...while missing finger tips at that!


I'm a huge Black Sabbath fan, but Iommi isn't in the same league as Gilmour or SRV. He's a pentatonic scale whiz that uses a lot of studio overdubbing on his solos. I absolutely love the songs he writes and am amazed by what he's done with that injury. Those missing fingertips are on his fretboard hand! I grew up with Master of Reality, Volume 4 and Sabbath Bloody Sabbath songs blasting through my headphones.


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Been fortunate to have seen most of the "greats". Style and tone mean so much.

Garcia is like soft rain on a tin roof.

Knopler a bender who makes it cry and sing.

Neil Young, Steve Stills all different.

I love how subtle Gary BB Coleman is:


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No time to post videos, but how about Joe Satriani and Steve Vai?


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I saw this concert tour when it came through Cleveland a couple weeks after this. Jeff Beck and Stevie Ray Vaughan had pretty divergent styles. Both put on great shows, but their joint encore - "Going Down" - brought the house down.


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This is the GOAT... By the GOAT. Solo @ 4:00

Too bad it fades out at the end, I think Randy may have played all night. In my neck of the woods, someone would station themselves next to the stereo to crank it up higher and higher near the end of the song... And hurry up and turn it back down before the next song starts (or replace the windows).



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Donald Roeser (aka "Buck Dharma") of Blue Oyster Cult. The "outro" begins at about 4:35, and Buck drills it.


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Hands down, without a doubt THE greatest guitar solo ever committed to tape is by far, Eddie Hazel's breathtakingly beautiful, heartfelt 10 min gem, 'Maggot Brain'.

Whilst high on acid, George Clinton told Hazel to "Play like your mama just died" and then....Clinton pressed record. Thank you. Thank you. THANK YOU! What a gem. In my humble opinion, nothing else even comes close. I have heard it countless times, yet it still brings tears to the eyes.




PS: for the younger folk on this board....Cleveland's WMMS 100.7 used to play this song every Saturday night (Sunday morning) as their final song before going off the air. When I was in high school this was a transformative song to me and my music tastes. I eventually pinned down a copy of the LP at Record Exchange on Coventry Rd. (there were no reissues back then...you had to find an original). Fantastic album, fantastic band and a beautiful guitar solo.

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(My last entry - promise - because I could do this all day.)

Can't have a guitar thread with Eric Clapton. This song is from the short-lived supergroup, Blind Faith. I think Steve Winwood was around 16 years old when this was recorded.





This one is a guitar duo with Stephen Stills, from his first solo album. Stills is damn good his own self, but Clapton kills on the outro starting around 3:30.



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I couldn't find a good video of it, but I was always impressed by

"Birds of Fire" by John McLaughlin (Mahavishnu Orchestra).

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Stephen Stills is a criminally underappreciated guitarist.

Regarding Hendrix...this is a tender, heartfelt & vulnerable moment recorded for the documentary, 'Jimi Hendrix' where it's just him and his 12 string playing "Hear My Train A-Comin,'" which I always loved:


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Here is something a bit different, Roy Clark doing Malaguena. Spanish Flamenco guitar.

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And now for something completely different......



Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.

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Very nice thread by jfan. I love Stevie Ray. I love some of the others that were mentioned. Carlos, Joe B, Mark W, etc. I have a few others, but won't mention them now.

I want to respond to this:

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DG's use of the Blues form is more compositional/architectural. He's a master of 'the slow build'... and needs 3-4 choruses to construct a "MLK-type speech over chord changes." Like a Jazz front man. Floyd's music is spacious, so it gives Gilmour the luxury of extending live solos at any pace he chooses.

One of the hardest skills to master as an improviser is learning what not to say. Music needs to breathe, if it's to be received organically, and that means giving the listener space in between the sounds. Gilmour is the absolute best in this regard. He replaces note density with note selection. It's the exact opposite of SRV's approach.

The quintessential David Gilmour guitar solo has three hallmark elements:

1. It always follows the 'slow build' model
2. The solos almost never feature high-speed pyrotechnics, though there is ample evidence that Gilmour could shred with the best.
3. It always has a soaring, melodic quality that takes the listener on a journey. When you finish a Gilmour solo, it feels like you just finished a great novel. And he did it in 4± minutes.


This is why Gilmour is my favorite. He might or might not be the best, but Floyd and David are so different from others. They are master story tellers. They are master musicians.

The following song might not be the most kick-ass song, but I think it is a good example of what Clem is talking about.


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I think these two songs by Jimi and Stevie Ray should be added. I brought these two up because Jimi put his own interpretation of Dylan's masterpiece and then SRV put his interpretation of a different Hendrix song.




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Iommi is criminally under rated
My 1st songs I ever learned to play was Iron Man
Planet Caravan and Symptom of the Universe
He actually created a whole genre of rock IMO.
Wanna hear a clinic on tone and heaviness
Listen to Vol 4 or Sabotage.
Even on Born Again he just burns

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I agree Iommi inspired thousands or even millions of kids to pick up an electric guitar. I agree that Sabbath were groundbreaking in what they did and the genre of heavy metal is one of the world's most popular forms of music. Yes, there were other bands before them who were equally as heavy and loud, but it was their downtuned blues riffs with heavy drone & distortion that really changed the game. Also, their lyrics of doom and gloom, which is exactly what they saw growing up in the midlands post World War 2 really changed rock music, especially during a time when it was still peace & love. AND, the rhythm section of Sabbath are also essentially jazz, especially Bill Ward's drumming.

However, I don't know if Iommi ever commited to tape the "best guitar performance of all time", which is what the OP originally asked for? He certainly created some of the most iconic, but best performance? Perhaps. It's all subjective, isn't it?

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Originally Posted By: Iluvmyxstripper

Even on Born Again he just burns

HUGELY under-appreciated! There are times on that album when his guitar seems to be possessed by a demon lol!


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Yeah its all subjective your right
I guess it's however it resonates with a person
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Has the resonator sound I love. Blues, soul, country, gospel, folk....all related. They all picked from each other.
Music of the common folk. It's why I love it.


It's real.

Going to see Jr. Brown in April, John Sebastian in May.


One pretty much country blues, western swing, the other more folk, rock.


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About 30 minutes of Slow Hand working his craft.

I wish Derek and the Dominoes had played together a few more years. While Layla was their musical masterpiece, they played some incredibly epic jams that don’t get their due. These are two.





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I was hoping someone would bring this up. thumbsup

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