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How u think there alike other than being non establishment? I need your help again ... *L* ..

U own a business? .... no

If you rock the boat enough, eventually it flips and everyone falls out.

Some people think that'd be a good thing. Some think it'd be a bad thing. I'm starting to wonder if it is inevitable.

Iowa is now 100% in and Pete holds the state delegate lead 26.2% to Bernie's 26.1%, while Bernie had thousands more votes... hmmm Fuzzy math or they just couldn't allow Bernie the outright win. I hope he makes them do the recanvass because his own internal reporting from precinct captains who were there for the counts had him handily in the lead. I hope this is not what Bernie supporters get to look forward to this year in the primaries.

Stop.

Bernie lost by a tenth of percent due to rural areas. These rural areas are convinced that Bernie is VENEZUELA?!?!?!?!?! due to the silly Fox News narrative that is by no means accurate.

They identify more with Mayor Pete’s NeoLiberalism of “hey, social policy that favors white America while I punish you with terrible economic policy for the 99%”. The people who are content to not pay attention to the actual economic reality think they can be rich tomorrow, and these are a large swath of individuals in our country. I partly blame the Dems for this problem, but the establishment relies on NeoLiberalism to get donations from mega donors, and these donors won’t give to Bernie as he wants to try and do what MLK wanted with his second march on Washington.

We will always have Americans voting against the best interests of all. Don’t fall for the silly conspiracy theories and go chasing a BENGHAZI!!?!?!?!?!?! EMAILS?!?!?!? like the other people who embarrass our country on a regular basis.

LOL if you thought that is why Bernie lost then you are delusional.

Bernie lost because:

1) The Democrat-Business-Corporate buddy buddy fix is in. And Hillary was the favored old-money victor.
2) See #1.
3) He wasn't ever going to have a chance because he is an alt-left extremist. The majority of the country is moderate. Either left or right. But not extremist. So he had that against him. The Dems know they will never win on an extremist ticket.

The right did.

They gerrymander better.

No. He won on a populist ticket.

Regardless of how the Dems paint him. REGARDLESS.

He ran on a populist ticket.

If you lefties want to go all mental about it, that's your problem.

But it doesn't change history. He ran on a populist ticket. Not an extremist one.

They're not quite so ruthless in eating their own anyways.

Bernie needs to get out of that party. I prefer some of the Democratic candidates over Republicans, but the party leadership on the left are a bunch of feckless backstabbers.

Real or Fake, this is hilarious.

Got to make anyone wonder how you can run the country if you can't run a caucus. Embarrassing and it's ongoing.

My bet is that it is true.
The Democratic Party doesn't want the candidate that its members selects in the election, it wants their elections to reflect the name of the candidate that the Party wants to put forth.

No different than 2016, at all.

Sounds familiar as they have been trying to undo the 2016 election of Trump since day one. By all means necessary.

You need to look up the definition of accountability.

DNC continues to remain beholden to their donor base.

The donors hate the idea of a candidate who will change their power (i.e. Sanders).

This doesn't excuse Bernie from not building a coalition.

As I told OCD, these conspiracy theories about the fix being in is ridiculous.

Sadly, the American populace will continue to vote against their best interest, and continue to believe in this narrative of "you can be in the 1% tomorrow if you give rich people more tax cutes! Their wealth will trickle down to you!"

Iowa officially gives Buttigieg the largest delegate count, followed closely by Sanders

The decision comes despite the fact that the results are rife with potential errors and inconsistencies. NBC News has not called a winner in the race.

By Adam Edelman
The Iowa Democratic Party on Sunday allocated delegates based on the results of last week’s Iowa caucuses, giving former South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg the largest delegate count, followed closely by Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt.

The party said it would, based on the results of the race it had collected, award 14 delegates to Buttigieg and 12 delegates to Sanders.

Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass, will receive 8 delegates, while former Vice President Joe Biden will receive 6 and Sen. Amy Klobuchar, D-Minn., will receive 1, the party said.

NBC News is not calling a winner in the first-in-the-nation contest, and the NBC News Decision Desk is not making any independent delegate allocations at this time.

Those delegate allocations are based on the revised results from the caucus that the party collected.

Iowa Democratic caucus results are not actual votes cast. The percentages received by candidates, based on returns of the estimated number of state convention delegates won by each candidate through the caucus process, are known as state delegate equivalents, or SDEs.

Iowa sends 41 pledged delegates to the Democratic National Convention. The allocation of those delegates is based proportionally on the SDE results.

The reporting totals from Iowa have been put out, in fits and spurts, by the Iowa Democratic Party over the past three days after chaos over the caucuses on Monday night. Results from the contest were delayed by what organizers said was a problem with a smartphone app. The Iowa Democratic Party said problems with reporting the caucus results were due partly to "coding issues" with the app, which was being used for the first time.

The results are rife with potential errors and inconsistencies that could affect the outcome of the election, according to a review by the NBC News Decision Desk.

Democratic National Committee Chair Tom Perez has called on state party officials to recanvass Monday's caucus vote after days of uncertainty and growing concerns about "inconsistencies" found in the data.

A recanvass is essentially a double-checking of the vote. Iowa officials would have to hand-audit the caucus worksheets and reporting forms to ensure that they were correctly calculated and reported.

Earlier Friday, the IDP announced it had extended the deadline for campaigns to request a recanvass or recount to Monday at 1:00 p.m. ET. It had previously been Friday at 1:00 p.m. ET.

The IDP also announced a Saturday 1:00 p.m. ET deadline for campaigns to submit "documentary evidence of inconsistencies between the data reported and the records of result for correction."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-el...anders-n1132531

BS! Bernie had thousands more votes, their own numbers showed the SDE gap closed to a tenth of a percent, yet somehow Pete gets two more delegates? Votes are not votes, we calculate SDEs but nobody knows how...

This is exactly what I have been saying, this is a broken record.