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Yeah, I didn't see that at all in your previous post.

Organized.

And the vast majority Of people in this particular country fall under organized.

I agree that the majority are organized, but IMO there are more folks out there than you think who are religious who do not attend organized activities.

No you are not interpreting what I want or opine.

In the very, most basic layman's terms, all religions believe THEY are the ONE and ONLY path to God and Heaven. If ALL peoples of religion go around "shouting" about what they believe and preaching/posting/bragging/antagonizing people of other faith for being godless/wrong/deficient ..... I think that is a problem. It is the opposite of religious tolerance. Be them Muslim, Hindi, Urdu, Buddhist or Christian.

Believe what you want - but don't expect to be able to run for public office if you are a preach religious intolerance based on your faith being the only right faith. And to back that up - if a baker can discriminate against Gays in the name of religion and it is 'fair' - then whoever wants separation of Religion and Govt can/should have an equal voice.

Getting to know Buttigieg:



Pete Buttigieg's father was a Marxist professor who lauded the Communist Manifesto

by Emily Larsen
& Joseph Simonson

April 02, 2019



The father of Democratic presidential hopeful Pete Buttigieg was a Marxist professor who spoke fondly of the Communist Manifesto and dedicated a significant portion of his academic career to the work of Italian Communist Party founder Antonio Gramsci, an associate of Vladimir Lenin.

Joseph Buttigieg, who died in January at the age of 71, immigrated to the U.S. in the 1970s from Malta and in 1980 joined the University of Notre Dame faculty, where he taught modern European literature and literary theory. He supported an updated version of Marxism that jettisoned some of Marx and Engel's more doctrinaire theories, though he was undoubtedly Marxist.

He was an adviser to Rethinking Marxism, an academic journal that published articles “that seek to discuss, elaborate, and/or extend Marxian theory,” and a member of the editorial collective of Boundary 2, a journal of postmodern theory, literature, and culture. He spoke at many Rethinking Marxism conferences and other gatherings of prominent Marxists.

In a 2000 paper for Rethinking Marxism critical of the approach of Human Rights Watch, Buttigieg, along with two other authors, refers to "the Marxist project to which we subscribe."

In 1998, he wrote in an article for the Chronicle of Higher Education about an event in New York City celebrating the 150th anniversary of the Manifesto. He also participated in the event.

"If The Communist Manifesto was meant to liberate the proletariat, the Manifesto itself in recent years needed liberating from Marxism's narrow post-Cold War orthodoxies and exclusive cadres. It has been freed," he wrote.

"After a musical interlude, seven people read different portions of the Manifesto. Listening to it read, one could not help but be struck by the poignancy of its prose," he wrote. The readers "had implicitly warned even us faithful to guard against conferring upon it the status of Scripture, a repository of doctrinal verities."

“Equity, environmental consciousness, and racial justice are surely some of the ingredients of a healthy Marxism. Indeed, Marxism's greatest appeal — undiminished by the collapse of Communist edifices — is the imbalances produced by other sociopolitical governing structures,” Buttigieg wrote.

Paul Kengor, a professor at Grove City College and an expert in communism and progressivism, said Buttigieg was among a group of leftist professors who focused on injecting Marxism into the wider culture.

"They’re part of a wider international community of Marxist theorists and academicians with a particular devotion to the writings of the late Italian Marxist theorist Antonio Gramsci, who died over 80 years ago. Gramsci was all about applying Marxist theory to culture and cultural institutions — what is often referred to as a 'long march through the institutions,' such as film, media, and especially education," Kengor told the Washington Examiner.

Pete Buttigieg, an only child, shared a close relationship with his father. In his memoir Shortest Way Home, Pete called his dad a “man of the left, no easy thing on a campus like Notre Dame’s in the 1980s.”

He wrote that while he did not understand his parents’ political discussions as a young child, “the more I heard these aging professors talk, the more I wanted to learn how to decrypt their sentences, and to grasp the political backstory of the grave concerns that commanded their attention and aroused such fist-pounding dinner debate.”

Pete wrote that his dad was supportive when he came out as gay. He and his husband bought a house in South Bend around the corner from his parents, which gave the couple “a good support network despite our work and travel schedules” when they decided to get a dog.

The elder Buttigieg was best known as one of the world’s leading scholars of Gramsci.

Gramsci thought cultural change was critical to dismantling capitalism. Nevertheless, although critical of certain aspects of Bolshevism, Gramsci endorsed Vladimir Lenin’s “maximalist” politics and identified within the Leninist faction of the Italian communists. He went to Moscow in 1922 as the official representative of the Italian Communist Party and returned home to lead the resistance against Italy’s Prime Minister Benito Mussolini, on the orders of Lenin, while his new wife and children stayed in the USSR.

Those efforts landed Gramsci in an Italian prison, where he lived much of his brief life, which ended in 1937 at the age of 46. Yet his time behind bars was also some of his most prolific, leading to a collection of essays called the Prison Notebooks. Buttigieg completed the authoritative English translation of Gramsci’s Prison Notebooks, and his articles on Gramsci have been translated into five languages.

Buttigieg was a founding member and president of the International Gramsci Society, an organization that aims to “facilitate communication and the exchange of information among the very large number of individuals from all over the world who are interested in Antonio Gramsci's life and work and in the presence of his thought in contemporary culture.”

In 2013, Buttigieg spoke at a $500,000 outdoor New York City art installation honoring Gramsci.

Joseph Buttigieg, presidente International Gramsci Society. #GramsciMonument pic.twitter.com/suFbkEZCZK
— Manuela Cavalieri (@ManuelaCav) August 10, 2013

Buttigieg died just days after Mayor Pete announced his 2020 presidential exploratory committee.

Lis Smith, communications adviser for Buttigieg’s presidential exploratory committee, declined to comment on how his father influenced his political beliefs or on Pete Buttigieg's thoughts on Marxist thinkers such as Gramsci.

Pete Buttigieg said in an MSNBC interview on March 20 that he considers himself a capitalist but that the system needs changes.

“The biggest problem with capitalism right now is the way it's become intertwined with power and is eroding our democracy,” Buttigieg said, noting the influence of big businesses in government.

A self-described progressive, Buttigieg has called to abolish the Electoral College system, supports a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants in the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, and thinks that climate change is a national security threat.

In another MSNBC interview in February, Buttigieg said that socialism “is a word in American politics that has basically lost all meaning” and “has been used as a kill switch to stop an idea from being talked about.”

After his son won his mayoral election in 2011, Joseph Buttigieg told the Notre Dame student newspaper that he never expected him to run for office.

“I know Peter has been interested in politics for a long time,” Buttigieg said. “At home we always discussed government affairs, but never in that way … I’m very pleased because he’s doing something he genuinely likes."


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/...unist-manifesto

I’ll take the Marxist father over trumps klan member father.

February 10, 2020


The Iowa goat orgy comes to an end with Buttigieg getting the most delegates


By Andrea Widburg

On Sunday, six days after the Iowa Caucuses took place, the Iowa Democrat Party finally released the 2020 Results. Based upon the complicated, vaguely parliamentary-style algorithm that Iowa uses, Buttigieg won 14 delegates, and Bernie trailed him with 12 delegates. Warren eked out 8 delegates, former frontrunner Biden got 6, and Klobuchar got 1 delegate. None of the candidates got anything out of their Iowa efforts:

With 38-year-old Buttigieg having leaped to prominence in Iowa, it’s time to remind everyone of a few pertinent facts:

1. Between 1972 and 2010, nine of the Iowa Democrat caucus winners secured their parties’ nomination (although both Clinton and Obama were unopposed during their second-term runs). However, of those nine, only three – Carter, Clinton, and Obama – won the presidency. Buttigieg now has the potential to win the primaries.

2. Buttigieg was raised in an extremely Marxist home:

The father of Democratic presidential hopeful Pete Buttigieg was a Marxist professor who spoke fondly of the Communist Manifesto and dedicated a significant portion of his academic career to the work of Italian Communist Party founder Antonio Gramsci, an associate of Vladimir Lenin.

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He supported an updated version of Marxism that jettisoned some of Marx and Engel's more doctrinaire theories, though he was undoubtedly Marxist.

[snip]

Paul Kengor, a professor at Grove City College and an expert in communism and progressivism, said Buttigieg was among a group of leftist professors who focused on injecting Marxism into the wider culture.

In sum, just as was the case with Barack Obama and his mentor, Frank Marshall Davis, Buttigieg grew up steeped in Marxism.

3. Although Buttigieg is now challenging Bernie, when Buttigieg was a high school senior, he thought Sanders the most admirable politician in America:

One outstanding and inspiring example of such integrity is the country’s only Independent Congressman, Vermont’s Bernie Sanders.

Sanders’ courage is evident in the first word he uses to describe himself: “Socialist”. In a country where Communism is still the dirtiest of ideological dirty words, in a climate where even liberalism is considered radical, and Socialism is immediately and perhaps willfully confused with Communism, a politician dares to call himself a socialist?

[snip]

Sanders’ positions on many difficult issues are commendable, but his real impact has been as a reaction to the cynical climate which threatens the effectiveness of the democratic system. His energy, candor, conviction, and ability to bring people together stand against the current of opportunism, moral compromise, and partisanship which runs rampant on the American political scene. He and few others like him have the power to restore principle and leadership in Congress and to win back the faith of a voting public weary and wary of political opportunism. Above all, I commend Bernie Sanders for giving me an answer to those who say American young people see politics as a cesspool of corruption, beyond redemption.

For celebrating an openly communist politician, Buttigieg’s won the 2000 JFK Profile in Courage Essay Contest. Incidentally, his communication style hasn’t changed since high school: lots of orotund words, trite, often meaningless, content.

4. As was the case with John Kerry, Buttigieg’s military service was a political move and he did it the easy way:

He entered the military through a little-used shortcut: direct commission in the reserves. The usual route to an officer’s commission includes four years at Annapolis or another military academy or months of intense training at Officer Candidate School. ROTC programs send prospective officers to far-flung summer training programs and require military drills during the academic year. Mr. Buttigieg skipped all that—no obstacle courses, no weapons training, no evaluation of his ability or willingness to lead. Paperwork, a health exam and a background check were all it took to make him a naval officer.

[snip]

Mr. Buttigieg was assigned to a comfortable corner of military life, the Naval Station in Great Lakes, Ill. Paperwork and light exercise were the order of the day.

[snip]

Mr. Buttigieg spent some five months in Afghanistan, where he writes that he remained less busy than he’d been at City Hall, with “more time for reflection and reading than I was used to back home.”

It was a sinecure which included driving a car and then buffing his resume.

Although Biden is hugely exaggerating his accomplishments in this aggressive campaign video, he’s nailed Buttigieg’s practical political accomplishments. (And no, it's not gay-bashing; most of Buttigieg's South Bend accomplishments were indeed aesthetic):

(You can read more about Buttigieg’s slim resume here.)

Whether or not he is able to capitalize on his Iowa victory, Buttigieg is now in the front ranks of Democrat presidential candidates. He’s a soft-spoken, boyish-looking Gramscian Marxist, an opportunist, and a man with a resume that could make only a high school class valedictorian proud. He’s Obama, only gay and politically even more to the left.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/202..._delegates.html

No doubt !! The right must be getting a little nervy to start with the hatchet jobs on Pete already. The Examiner sure does have some skewed reporting from time to time. OK most of the time - certainly as far from center as the Post.

The right is just trying to help bernie out. He's been screwed over by the left so many times, they may get him to switch parties.

Putin agrees.
So does Xi.

So let me guess, other than a campaign fund raiser in a wine cave, you have zero evidence to support that? See, you think so liberal that you believe "all rich people evil". You forget that there are billionaires and very wealthy people who support that they themselves pay higher taxes. People such as George Soros, Warren Buffett, Eli Broad and Marc Benioff.



Yeah, Mayor Pete doesn't want any of that. You're ridiculous.



If there were an ounce of truth in any of that you would be correct. But since there isn't, you are not.



I've never called myself a Democrat. Only the extremists on this board have.



Let's see your 79 year old savior who just had a heart attack run and see where that gets you. Common sense is something that's lost on you. Just like those you stand against all on the right who spout nothing but rhetoric with no factual basis to back it up, with this post you have decided to mirror them.

You fear is real. I wonder why you never talk about Trump's father?

Notre Dame had Marxists at their school? Well of course they did....

None of that has any substance. Vaught did not discriminate against anyone. If anyone discriminated it was Sanders. Vaught was blocked for being an orthodox Christiian. Not the denomination orthodox, but theological orthodoxy

Vaught made it clear that all men are equal regardless of creed, and should be treated with dignity and respect. And he said nothing that any Christian would not say.

SURE

All men and faiths created equal - just some are less so.

So then no Christian, no Jew, no Moslem, no Budhist, etc may hold office. When will they start purging all the religious people from politics, then?

Then all the other religions in government should stay home too. That includes all the Mosley’s and others. Equal standards.

You really do have a comprehension issue.
Enjoy the boards. Hey maybe head over to the football forum and make a contribution there too. For a "NEW" Browns fan to come here to post, you picked an odd forum to start and exclusively post in.

U mean like the two Muslims 4 years ago that took a job delivering beverages that included alcoholic beverages ... 6 months in they decided not to deliver the alcohol on their routes ... they were fired ...

O’s justice department stepped in and told them to sue and represented them i believe ... they won the lawsuit ....

The quote Vaught said had NOTHING to do with politics. It was an internal theological discussion regarding his alma matter Wheaton College. It is you that have comprehension issues


Four words. No religious test act.

No. Around 1:46 to the end is. He clearly stated that his theology would not cause him to treat another person of a different faith differently than anyone else. It is you who do not comprehend. . I know plenty of people who believe no salvation outside of Jesus that would hire a Moslem or ecumenical or whatever for a job. Just not to teach at a Bible college

How do you know Vaught would have been biased in his job. Whether or not Mosley’s are saved has nothing to do with the job description he was applying for, oh you of little comprehensio


Is he discriminating, showing bias, or hostile towards other faiths in his current position? Huh? Huh?

Libs think all Christians let their beliefs cause them to illegally discriminate and show unlawful bias. Gross generalization fallacy and rampant stereotyping.

The problem is when you try to inflict your religious beliefs upon all of society through laws and legislation.

Otherwise everyone is to believe any way they see fit.

This says it all right here.

Exactly the things they cry about others doing.

It says all you have to say. I've known Christians who do not do this. Just like I've known Christians who have done this.

There is no one size fits all.

Neither Vaught nor I did that. Strawman. Do you want a hat for your scarecrow or a match to light it,

When did Vaught do that? Can you give a documented occurrence

A statement made in an in-house debate on theology does not fit that description, pal.

You guys have enough strawmen to make a scarecrow army. March of the scarecrows.. harumph, harumph.

I know it would favor you to keep things to your guideline specifics. I know viewing things from a larger sample size doesn't fit your agenda.

Give me one piece of evidence that Vaught has ever unlawfully discriminated against someone. I’m waiting.

Ticktock Tick tock

But you automatically think Vaught will break the law because he is an outspoken evangelical. I have to inform you that evangelicals who are consistent with their theology have one BIG reason to obey the law that is greater than all other reasons. Fear and reverence of God

The only thing I know about Evangelicals - and I admit it's not a lot - but the thing I do know is that they are so morally bankrupt they were happy to jump on board the Trump train - the known sexual predator who hasn't been faithful to a single wife and bragged about grabbing women's private parts.

Awesome !! MURICA.

Fish with his alt-right propaganda articles sourced from the ether in GOPer troll lalaland... You have to be pretty desperate for a lie to read beyond 'goat orgy' or 'marxist dad'. Disgusting and not journalism.

Since it appears you need an explanation, look at what I quoted.

Nowhere did I mention you. Nowhere did I mention Vaught.

You said "libs think". You opened it up to everyone who had a differing political leaning than yourself. I commented to that.

Try and keep up next time. You're welcome. If you can't swim I would suggest you don't jump into the deep end of the pool.

Looks like Klobuchar is going to steal some of Pete's thunder. She's raised 3 million since the debate on Friday. Centrist flavor of the week.

And I don't see what anyone sees in her. She's bland like melba toast IMHO. Horrible to listen to.

your Point is?

Who are you replying to.?

What other people do has no bearing on the Sanders, Vaught story

Sanders had no grounds to suspect Vaught of being a person who would use his religious beliefs as an excuse to break the law or fail to do his job. There was no indication that that would be the case. Sanders took an in-house Christian debate WAY out of context.

The statement Vaught made was in regards to an in-house theological debate at Wheaton college, a private Christian institution. NOTHING to do with politics. Sanders was out of line. He took it out of context. Sanders was wrong End of story.

I'm beginning to think English isn't your first language.

Nah, she's taking Biden's.



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