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WOW you couldnt be more wrong about that. My wife and I along with our kids morn the loss of the babies who have been slaughtered.


well thats on you. i for one dont lose any sleep over the issue, and will continue not to.

again, if you want to be anti abortion in your own home, fine. dont get one. beyond that, mind your own business.


Thats fine as long as you support people killing folks who support abortion. I mean killings folks is fine with you as long as it's not you that they are killing


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Lololol ok. Sure.


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You’re Bible has two verses. Wow Biblical cherry picker. You better start reading your Bible

Are you a universalist? I guess you are

Did you miss...

Beware of false prophets

Unless you repent you will perish

Whoever does not believe is condemned already

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Originally Posted By: Swish
thats right, Pit!!

REPENT!! REPENT FOR ALL OF YOUR TRANSGRESSIONS!


Jesus, who Pit claims he follows...the first recorded sermon of Jesus was “repent and believe the Gospel”. Just saying.

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Gotta love religion. Just look at this conversation. IF YOU DONT BELIEVE YOURE ALL CONDEMNED. *lightning strike*


Honest question bro. If you don't believe why do you care? If you don't believe in heaven or hell and somebody says your going to hell why does it matter?


Romans 1. Starting in verse 18. Describes this generation

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What do you call a Christian who believes part of what Jesus says and rejects everything else he said?

And no ones throwing stones or judging Pit. You need to start reading your Bible. What you believe is not What Christ taught. Christ taught more about unbelief and hell than He did about heaven. Because you need to know you are lost before you can be saved.

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Christians say God has a Son, and you must recognize that or you are condemned


The Jews believe that the son of god has not yet returned. The Jews are God's chosen people. According to you they must be condemned and don't believe in the same God.


The jews also killed Jesus.


We all killed Jesus. Or more properly, no one took His Life, He laid it down willingly, so that all who believe might be saved. Including Moslems. Unfortunately, Moslems deny that Jesus died for them

I wonder if these half Christians believe Jesus died for their and our sins?

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because the same people pushing that BS are the same people who try to push their religious beliefs through government policy.



Yet you believe your right to push your beliefs on others is OK. Put meet kettle.


Bingo. Hit the nail on the head right there

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Originally Posted By: Swish
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Gotta love religion. Just look at this conversation. IF YOU DONT BELIEVE YOURE ALL CONDEMNED. *lightning strike*


Honest question bro. If you don't believe why do you care? If you don't believe in heaven or hell and somebody says your going to hell why does it matter?


because the same people pushing that BS are the same people who try to push their religious beliefs through government policy.

which means that potentially affects me, but more specifically my wife and daughters.

im seriously am looking to move out of ohio. its become so far right that the losers in government have been trying to pass policies for procedures that dont even freaking exist. thats absolutely deplorable.

religious nutbags are always using their religion as a reason/justification to discriminate and/or seize control, masking it by calling it pro-life and pro-growth policies.

yall preach that dumbass prosperity BS and everything has turned rotten because of it.

if yall kept your crap ass beliefs inside yall stankin ass houses, churchs, mosque's, etc, then i WOULDNT care. but unfortunately, we dont live in such a country.


See. Right there. Keep your religious beliefs inside house, church, or whatever.

This amounts to asking us to give up civil liberties like freedom of speech, which includes public speech and to give up freedom to vote according to our consciences

Attempt to marginalize and suppress Christianity, which is not only a religion, it is a worldview and a culture.

Bigots are people who can’t tolerate people who have a different opinion. Marking trait of liberals like Swish.

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WOW you couldnt be more wrong about that. My wife and I along with our kids morn the loss of the babies who have been slaughtered.


well thats on you. i for one dont lose any sleep over the issue, and will continue not to.

again, if you want to be anti abortion in your own home, fine. dont get one. beyond that, mind your own business.


Thats fine as long as you support people killing folks who support abortion. I mean killings folks is fine with you as long as it's not you that they are killing


Yep. No value for life. Next they’ll be euthanizing and aborting/killing in the name of eugenics

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Your religion is a cess pool of pedophilia. No room to talk about someone’s civil liberties.


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Well, maybe we can get this thread back on topic and stop talking lunatic fringe religion.

Pete is showing well in NH, currently second place with 17% in. Klobuchar coming from nowhere after strong debate to third right on Pete's heels. Bernie winning while the MSM does it's best to belittle the win. With these three rounding out the top and so far only Yang getting out, Nevada and South Carolina become hugely important rolling into Super Tuesday. Will there be a new centrist flavor of the week, will Pete and or Amy gain momentum, Will Bernie fare well in those states? Lot's of questions will be answered in the next few weeks.


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UPDATE: Michael Bennett now out too, I didn't know he was still in.


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46% in for the NH primary and Bernie with a commanding lead! 28% with Pete second at 23% and Amy third at 20%... Klobuchar getting a huge bump going forward. Liz and Joe seem to be done IMHO.


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Can’t wait for the brokered convention ... its gonna be a hoot ... thumbsup




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64% in for the NH primary and Pete is closing the gap. 26% Bernie, 24% Pete, 20% Amy.


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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
Well, maybe we can get this thread back on topic and stop talking lunatic fringe religion.

Pete is showing well in NH, currently second place with 17% in. Klobuchar coming from nowhere after strong debate to third right on Pete's heels. Bernie winning while the MSM does it's best to belittle the win. With these three rounding out the top and so far only Yang getting out, Nevada and South Carolina become hugely important rolling into Super Tuesday. Will there be a new centrist flavor of the week, will Pete and or Amy gain momentum, Will Bernie fare well in those states? Lot's of questions will be answered in the next few weeks.


My views are mainstream Christianity, not lunatic fringe. Those who oppose my views are the fruit of liberal plants that infiltrated the churches, people infiltrated the church that don’t even believe in God. Mostly from apostate European nations

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Nope.


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Yep. And I didn’t come talking about religion. I came talking about politicians that don’t know the difference between a political issue and a theological issue. If Bernie Sanders is elected, we’re in trouble, because he is ignorant enough to not know the difference between a persons theological position and a persons position on Constitutional Law.

Think about that. He conflated the theological position of Vaught with Vaughn’s constitutional legal position. Uhhh, duhhhhh...Doesn’t know the difference between theological mandate and legal mandate. Gross ignorance. Willful ignorance

You can be faithful to the Bible and the Constitution, and Bernie is too ignorant to know this. Such ignorance is not conducive to informed voting, let alone for a president. He would be the most unqualified president intellectually that we have ever had

And the Constitution is the Law that matters. Not the dark minded dogmas of leftists.

Fact

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leftists don’t know that a persons theological position does not prevent them from adhering to law or constitution. Left doesn’t know the difference between a theological mandate and a constitutional mandate, how they are separate Left doesn’t know that the Bible teaches to obey the Law of the Land, so there is no conflict with obeying Bible and obeying constitution. The left are utterly bereft of any knowledge whatsoever

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Nope and Nope. But I hear there are people on 8chan that will agree with you.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
Your religion is a cess pool of pedophilia. No room to talk about someone’s civil liberties.


Really? Give me the statistics on the fellowship of churches I belong to. Oh that’s right. You don’t know what I am. LoL

Atheism is a cesspool of murder. See Soviet Union and Red China. So if one is an an atheist, you are guilty by association

Serial killers are predominantly white , black and Latino population full of gang members, do I sound like a bigot? So do you

Stereotyping is the brand of bigots. Don’t be a gigot

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You’re a Christian, correct?

And What’s a gigot?


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So, I'm going to give you real advice about this place. If you want to talk about the politics of religion, start a thread for that. Try to stay on topic, and not everybody gives a damn what you think no matter how much you post.

I for one could care less about your religion as long as you are not trying to push it on others. You have every right to believe whatever you believe. You have no right to impose that on others. Religion has no place in politics, period.

This is the last time I will respond to you in this thread unless you are posting about a dem candidate and NOT trying to smear Bernie with propaganda. Have a good night.


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Typo. Bigot. What you said is as bigoted as If I said white people are a cesspool of serial killers, or Moslems are terrorists, or the Democratic Party is a cesspool of marital infidelity, or stereotyped blacks or Latinos or Jews

See how bigoted the left is? You are a fine exhibit of bigotry

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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg

I for one could care less about your religion as long as you are not trying to push it on others. You have every right to believe whatever you believe. You have no right to impose that on others.


Thats priceless coming from the guy that wants to impose socialism on everybody.


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You’re religion is not a race.

It is a fairy tale, though. Would you like me to tuck you in and read you stories of knights in shining armor saving the damsel in distress? It’s about as realistic as your bible is.


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So, I'm going to give you real advice about this place. If you want to talk about the politics of religion, start a thread for that. Try to stay on topic, and not everybody gives a damn what you think no matter how much you post.

I for one could care less about your religion as long as you are not trying to push it on others. You have every right to believe whatever you believe. You have no right to impose that on others. Religion has no place in politics, period.

This is the last time I will respond to you in this thread unless you are posting about a dem candidate and NOT trying to smear Bernie with propaganda. Have a good night.


Apparently your not reading my posts.

I did not come talking about religion. I came talking about Bernie Sanders failure to discern that a politicians theological mandate and his constitutional mandate are seperating. The gross ignorance of people not being able to distinguish between a theological mandate and a political mandate is appalling.

If one is a Christian, I trust that a person can obey God

If that same person is a politician, I also know that he is also able to obey the constitution

And the two actions do not conflict and are not inconsistent.

Libs make up conflicts of interest that don’t exist because they know dupes will buy it and it gives them more power

And you prove them right




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Is Trump a Christian?


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Anyone with half a brain knows it is possible to conform to the Bible and also conform to The constitution.

People just use less than half of their brain. They let the agenda condition what they think

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Is Trump a Christian?


Irrelevant

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I for one could care less about your religion as long as you are not trying to push it on others. You have every right to believe whatever you believe. You have no right to impose that on others.


Thats priceless coming from the guy that wants to impose socialism on everybody.


Socialism is a form of government not a religion. And social democracy is not socialism the way your side portrays it. Here is a good article on the topic, please take 5 minutes and educate yourself:

Here's the difference between a 'socialist' and a 'democratic socialist'

https://www.businessinsider.com/difference-between-socialist-and-democratic-socialist-2018-6


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Is Trump a Christian?


Irrelevant


Well you brought up being a Christian and being a politician, so it’s a relevant question that should be easy to answer.

Is trump a Christian? Does he meet what you’re defining right now?

Come on, should be easy to answer for a guy like you.


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Whether or not Trump is a Christian is irrelevant. That’s what you people don’t get. Being a Christian or not being a Christian does not impede your ability to act in accordance to constitutional Law as a politician

SEPERATE things, Maestro

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But you’re here getting into arguments over who’s Christian and who isn’t in a political forum.

Should be easy to answer, and yet.....


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Is Trump a Christian?


Irrelevant


Well you brought up being a Christian and being a politician, so it’s a relevant question that should be easy to answer.

Is trump a Christian? Does he meet what you’re defining right now?

Come on, should be easy to answer for a guy like you.


The question is irrelevant, because neither being a Christian nor not being a Christian impedes one’s ability to make decisions informed by Law and the Constitution

That’s why Sanders Action was so ridiculous

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Yawn. You’re boring. Dodge spin dodge spin. Good night.


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88% in for the NH primary and Bernie leads by over 4000 votes and 2%... BUT it seems Pete will get the same amount of delegates???? In Iowa, Bernie had the most votes and was 2 tenths of a percent behind Pete in state delegates, yet Pete netted two more delegates than Bernie! Talk about your wonky math...


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But you’re here getting into arguments over who’s Christian and who isn’t in a political forum.

Should be easy to answer, and yet.....


No, a professed Christian started saying that the views that I expressed, which are in the Bible, are the problem with religion. I merely said that he was basically saying that the Bible is what is wrong with Christianity, which is absurd.

Whether a person is a Christian or not does not impede their ability to govern constitutionally. Therefore, your question is irrelevant

I am not the judge of Trump’s spiritual state. I can say that if people deny Jesus is the Son of God then I can say what the Bible says, and I have stated what it says. But that is different

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If Pitdawg thinks what Vaught said is hate speech, then he thinks Jesuscwas guilty of hate speech, because Jesus said what I am saying. All of it

A. Jesus defined marriage as one man, one woman

B. Jesus identified two genders, not more

C. Jesus said that those who don’t believe Him are condemned ALREADY. They were already condemned, but if they reject their only hope...

If the Jesus of Pitdawg did not say these things, then yes, Pit has a different Jesus then me. Because the Jesus I know said all these things

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