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You took a swing and struck out on a Andrew Miller curveball. You trying to equate Bernie's belief that a right to choose means that he endorses everyone to have an abortion right up to birth. He's more nuanced, and he doesn't want to make laws based on values but rather on factual information.

I understand that your feelings may mean more than facts, but please do understand the Constitution is more concerned with factual information.

Where did I say I support a religious theocracy? Sanders discriminated against Voight for believing that there is no salvation outside of Jesus. Something ANY evangelical would say. Therefore, Sanders would discriminate against any EVANGELICAL, and block them from political office based on creed.

and no bail for any crime
open borders
sanctuary cities that protect illegals no matter what crime against American citizens
OH wait... all those fascists on the lib side do but that's their guys and gals

Your semantic games are feeble and weak. Sanders states clearly that he supports the woman's right to have an abortion up to birth. Therefore he supports the right for women to have an abortion up to birth just like I said.

You try to place a distinction between supporting something and supporting the right to do something. Morally, there is a distinction, BUT LEGALLY there is no distinction.

supporting laws to allow abortion up to birth is the same LEGALLY as supporting the practice of abortion up to birth, if one so chooses.

You guys need to stop drinking the koolaid

Is this a red herring, a strawman, or the fact that you completely missed the point.

Neither I nor Voight stated any such thing as your red herring, strawman statement insinuates. The simple fact is that Sanders blocked Voight for the simple reason that he has the beliefs of an evangelical Christian. Nothing about making a theocracy. Nothing about America a Christian nation. The whole issue was "no Evangelicals allowed in Politics, per Sanders. And if evangelicals can be discriminated thusly, what other ways will they be discriminated against in the future?

I wonder if Sanders would ask the same question to a Moslem nominee?

You're placing a value judgement when our Constitution isn't based on value judgement.

If you want to start a theocracy, go ahead, No one is stopping you.

A picture is worth a thousand words. Here is my reply to you.

https://marygriggs.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/strawman.jpg

What? Discrimination is allowed because anti discrimination is a value judgement? OK then!!

As to your theocracy statement, my response is below

https://marygriggs.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/strawman.jpg

That's NOT what he said at all. That's some GOPer ventriloquism, you just trying to put words in the man's mouth, but he ain't no dummy and neither are we! All you have is lies and fear tactics, go crawl back in your hole.

Please explain how my argument can easily be knocked down.

A straw man is an argument that can easily be knocked down not based on facts.

You have yet to give me anything across any thread based on facts. Everything is your interpretation or feelings.

Prove it

The burden of proof is actually on you.

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."
-Carl Sagan

I already posted a video.

I don't have to prove anything to the likes of you. Chase your own rabbit holes and conspiracy theories. Now kick rocks.

Yes, you posted a video then lied about what the man actually said just to twist his words into what you wanted to hear him say.

I posted a video where he was asked a clear question and gave a clear answer. Deal with it.

look up Sanders position on abortion up to birth, what he said when asked about it, and let me know what you find. The burden of proof is not on me. I have a video and you said that’s not all he said. Well, tell us what else he said.


Btw, I did not vote last time, I couldn’t support either candidate at the time. But it’s gotten to the point where almost anything is better than what the Dems are offering

a person should be able to be a Christian and not be discriminated against by the government

Don Jr calls up pro-Trump 15-year-old who was attacked in NH: ‘My family has your back'

Donald Trump Jr. reached out to the 15-year-old Trump supporter who was allegedly assaulted outside a polling place on New Hampshire primary day this week, telling him that the Trump family has “family has your back.”

“So it turns out that I actually met the 15 year old victim shortly before he was attacked by a sick leftist,” Trump Jr. tweeted. “I asked an aide to find his number & just got off the phone with him & his mother. I thanked them for being such strong supporters. My family has your back Nate! #MAGA.”

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/don-jr-...y-has-your-back

It's nice to know the mafia has his back.

Trump named Daytona 500 grand marshal, will give 'start your engines' command

https://www.foxnews.com/auto/trump-president-daytona-500-grand-marshal



By your logic, this makes him a racist.

Perfect job for a carnival barker reality game show host.

Another lie. You must have perfected the art from your idol, Trump.

What he's doing is catering to his base. Luckily I will have the race on DVR so I can fast forward through the bovine excrement he will be producing pre race.

U can add YOUR PRESIDENT to that list ...

I posted a video somewhere where he was asked if he supports right to abortion up to birth. His answer

A. That is very rare

B. People are making it an issue

C. At the end of the day? It is a woman’s choice

More Brownshirts attacking innocent people.

I love how you guys think you can make us respect Trump. He shows us zero respect, why should we show him any? He's not my President and never has been, he makes that clear everytime he bashes democrats and social democracy as socialism while carrying out the largest corporate socialism we've ever seen! He also disgraces the military and our great institutions at every turn and I have no stomach for that whatsoever.

'Brownshirts' is a fascism and Nazi barb. Why would fascists attack Trump supporters?

And he is absolutely right on all three points, you just can't see that, so let me mansplain it for you:

1) Late term abortions ARE very rare, 1% or less.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/06/health/late-term-abortion-trump.html

2) People ARE making it an issue, you are doing it now and Trump did it at the SOTU.

3) At the end of the day it IS the woman's choice because Rowe v. Wade is the law of the land rather you like it or not.

So why are you so hung up on three totally correct answers? You just want to smear the 'socialist commie'... smdh

It is rare because of law. If third trimester abortion was legal in more states, it would be more common.

Sanders supports the right. So it follows, he would seek to make it more accessible. So it is an issue

Abortion up to birth is not the Law of the land. Who told you it was?

My point is they use the same tactics as fascists

Theocracy is a strawman. I never advocated for a theocracy.

Who told you abortion up to birth as a woman’s choice is the law of the land

I forgot you said the 'up to birth' bit and had dismissed it on rarity. Read my response as it applies to abortion in general and you will get my point.

Even you know it's a ridiculous leap to say Bernie supports abortion up to birth based on his answer. He's merely rationalizing the rare instances as somebody who feels strongly about keeping the right of choice available to women. Don't be the guy he's talking about in his explanation that is always trying to make it an issue.

It’s an issue because people are making a possible opening for it by saying that even abortion up to birth is a woman’s right

What part of “it ( abortion up to birth) is a woman’s right did you not understand”

I understand everything you've said, stop being condescending or I'll stop playing nice too. We've been having actual dialogue for a couple days but I have zero issue calling you names, attacking your faith, and slinging mud if that's the route your prefer.

As for your last post, it's 100% the woman's choice rather or not to have an abortion at any legal time. Stop being willfully obtuse.

President Donald Trump took a lap around the track ahead of Sunday’s Daytona 500 in Florida.

With first lady Melania Trump aboard, the president rode his “beast” limousine around one of the world’s most storied race tracks.

Wow, this great president makes history again! What a guy!

Probably the saddest thing I've read for months.

Translation: Dawn rode in a car.
Someone else drove.








Stop the presses.

And then god dumped rain on the track for hours and bleached away all of trumps skid marks. Then rinsed and repeated. Long live the king.