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The salary cap is about to go through the roof. Sign everyone to extensions now and sign every free agent. I'm not joking. These pre-17 game season/extra playoff game contracts are going to look sooooooooooo cheap in a couple of years.

My gut reaction is that I will love having two extra wildcard games. The seventeenth game will be cool too.

I'm not sure I like the second seed not getting a bye... but guess more reason to get first place and I do like an extra playoff game

For the 17 game schedule how does thwt work for season ticket holders... who gets the extra home games? Maybe every team has to go to Europe and thwts the 17th game...

I would guess that they’re going to try to make a bunch of the games neutral site games.

Will this push the Super Bowl back to June?

I agree. The players and their agents also know this. You aren't going to see many extensions and for guys signing contracts this yea, or maybe next, you are going to see them push for shorter deals.

I think, more than extra games or playoff teams, I would be in favor of increasing the 53 man roster...Injuries are such a huge part of the game now (especially with the mandatory concussion protocol) that it is quite beneficial to teams to have a deeper well to draw from...I am surprised this isn't brought up more. The teams wouldn't have to scramble every time an injury happens, and they would have people that have been with the system for a time. The players would get more people into their union with more capital...I really think it would be beneficial to both sides and I am not so sure there is a huge danger of diluting the talent. In fact, I think it may help increase talent in the way the practice squad allows for development of players.

Personally I don't like the added playoff teams. I think it cheapens the accomplishment of making the playoffs. And it will emphasize being the team with the hot hand (or most healthy) at the end of the season rather than being the best team. I think the beginning of the year will not be as important to teams and scheduling at the end of the year could take a larger role (even if a small one) in deciding the playoff teams. The easier the schedule in the 2nd half, the easier it is to make the playoffs. I understand why they are doing this. Plain and simple...Money...Playoff games bring a lot of money to the league and to the players that participate.

While not necessarily a good or bad thing...Just observing that one possible effect from adding a 17th regular season game is the diluting of benchmarks...like 1000 yard seasons. 1000 yards was HUGE when we were talking 12 and even 14 game seasons. But with 16 and 17 game seasons, I personally don't look at it with the same awe. And if you think about it, 1,000 yard seasons are used in contract negotiations...so it might be interesting to see if there is any change in that light...I think 1500 yard seasons will eventually be the new benchmark. Or maybe they "Should be".

And will the playoffs be on neutral ground outside the US, another Goodell playground? Not sure I care for the longer season and delaying the SB which seems inevitable.

Are we headed for participation trophies for those who can't make even expanded playoffs? No NFL altruism here. Salaries will have to go up, probably quite a bit. And will we need to cover bigger roster and PS numbers? The owners want it badly, so I would expect players to try to have some clout defining the mechanics of this, especially with longevity assurances for injury settlements, life-long medical help, and retirement issues.

This may mean making wholesale sausage IMO.

I’d prefer this:

- Have an 18 week schedule (16 games per team with 2 bye weeks each)
- Have 14 playoff teams (top team in each conference earn a bye)
- Season would start Labor Day weekend
- Season would end a week later
- Super Bowl would be held President’s Day weekend

I agree w/this.

I also am in favor of the changes from purely a fan's perspective.

If the season starts on Labor Day weekend, and ends a week later, that would make for a very busy week.

It's funny. I was pushing for the 17th game/neutral field game years and years ago. Glad to see them coming around. No sense in taking away a home game when they can just use that extra game each season to play in places like Mexico City and London.

Instead of Mexico City or London, I'd rather see neutral site games at some of the great college venues in the USA; Happy Valley, Columbus, Ann Arbor, Norman OK, Baton Rouge, etc.

I would guess that something like this happens. Bengals versus Browns at Ohio Stadium. Chargers versus Rams at someone where people care about the Chargers. Giants/Jets at Yankee Stadium.

As a fan, I love the the idea of a 17th game and the two additional wild card games.

As a season ticket holder, I'm curious as well who gets the extra home game. Also, will they drop a preseason games down to three games? If so, which STH fan base gets stuck paying for the two preseason games vs the fan base that only has to pay for one (this all assumes a reduction in preseason, obviously)?

I doubt we would see divisional games at a neutral site since the teams play twice... One game at a neutral site would be unfair to the team that didn't get a home game.

In essence, 17 weeks means every team will need to play one game at a neutral site. Only way to make the home/away games even and fair. That means 16 games over the course of the season at neutral locations.

I'd tend to agree that neither the Browns nor the Bengals would want to give up that game to a neutral site. But I could see inter-conference matchups like the Steelers and Eagles at Happy Valley, the Browns and the Bears at Notre Dame, or the Cowboys and the Browns at Norman, OK. The college settings would be great for Thursday night, Sunday night, or Monday night games because those fans and cities would probably love that spectacle and spotlight.

Alternate years for home and away.

j/c...

Arizona and Cleveland at Norman would be epic: Murry vs. Mayfield. This would be a home run idea for the NFL though. Hope it happens.

Great idea.

Well, we've got a four wait for that to happen, we just played them last year. Would be cool though. I'd like to see Mayfield and Mahommes return to the scene of the crime in Lubbock, where they combined for nearly 1300 yds and 12 TDs in 2016.

I think the game would come from a existing pre-season game. Teams would only play three. The regular season would start a week earlier.

I would like to see 18 games with 2 preseason. Right now it is 16 with 4 preseason games. Two at home, two away.

I wondrr how they will divide that up? I would guess one year you get two preseason home games and 1 extra road regular season game. The next you get 1 home preseason game and 1 extra home regular season game.

I hope they at least balance it by division so each division team has the same number of home regular season games.

At least allow the division winners to be fair with others in the division. Wildcard slots could produce a advantage for some.

Just go to 18 games and dump the sorry ass exhibition games. Give an additional roster cutdown date after 2 regular season games to allow continued assessment of players since two exhibition games are cut.

Or better yet, maybe the NFL needs to get off the cheap and do what the other pro leagues do and run a minor league program. Baseball and hockey have done it for 80 years. Basketball for maybe 25 years. It's time.

Don't talk about developing players if you aren't invested in developing them. You can't develop them as it is. You need them to produce.

Maybe a 8 game season...Wednesday night, right about now...that isn't stepping on the NCAA, NBA or NHL too badly. You have to be a good sport about things. You don't want to mess with their heated races or playoffs.

j/c...

bout time. wont help greg robinson though lol

Yeah, I know it's impossible, but an Arizona/Browns game in Norman, the same weekend that Kyler and Baker's life-size bronze statues would be unveiled in Heisman Park (Vessels, Owens, Sims, White, and Bradford's are already there) would be unmatched.

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No, it won't. Blowing a blunt with a friend and bringing in 157lbs are two different things.

I live in Tennessee. A state known for shooting things and making Shine....well, and the center of County Music.

Liquor is legal most everywhere, but it is highly regulated by the States and the Federal government. As long as the stamp tax is on it, cool. If not, you are just a Shiner, no matter how pure and good you distill. I have to admit I do manage to get a quart or two of swill that isn't taxed. He does it right. It's cut with come spring to about 90-100 proof. Sweet corn in a jar, man.


Got to do it right, or it is illegal, but that Tennessee sweet corn in a jar is too good to pass.

man i havent had good shine in a long time!

If this is true, it could severely diminish the odds of this being approved by the players.

Come to a tailgate next year, I promise I will put a shine on your face. Let me know when. I'll pick up some extra. He only makes it in June and July when the sweetcorn down here is perfect. It is also good later, we get two growing seasons on corn down here, but the spring plant is best. The late plant can be good, but it can also be best for feeding livestock. It just depends on Mother Nature..

No radiators. He runs a real copper pot.

Yeah, that could be a deal-killer.

Gordon could still come back and make something of himself if they quit suspending players for weed. Just putting it out there.

If it is pot that he is suspended for.

I highly doubt Gordon's drug use is limited to just weed.