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The existence of life is evidence that a supernatural Being exists, that is if you accept the Law of Biogenesis, which has mountains of supporting evidence

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The likelihood of abiogenesis is about the same likelihood of a Unicorn vomiting out the Universe.

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Originally Posted By: dagesh
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Do you believe in abiogenesis as origin of life? That’s an unscientific belief if I ever saw one


I'm not sure if I believe in that or not, but there is more evidence of it being possible than there is that God exist. We are all made of those lifeless substances and share at least partial common DNA with many other living things. That's more evidence than any Christian has presented on God.


Commonalities in DNA do not demonstrate common ancestry. That is a bare assumption

And the Bible tells us the substance we are made of thousands of years ago, ie of the earth


It also says eve was made from adam's rib... rolleyes But hey, if you choose to believe you are God's golem that's on you.

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Originally Posted By: dagesh
The likelihood of abiogenesis is about the same likelihood of a Unicorn vomiting out the Universe.


Look at you creating new religions! 2000 years from now you might be in a book with all kinds of stories supporting your view.

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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
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The likelihood of abiogenesis is about the same likelihood of a Unicorn vomiting out the Universe.


Look at you creating new religions! 2000 years from now you might be in a book with all kinds of stories supporting your view.


All hail the Unicorn for it barfed forth life. Hail. Hail. Hail.


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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
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The likelihood of abiogenesis is about the same likelihood of a Unicorn vomiting out the Universe.


Look at you creating new religions! 2000 years from now you might be in a book with all kinds of stories supporting your view.


That wouldn’t be a religion. It would be a naturalistic hypothesis. Unicorns are natural creatures, not supernatural. See Webster’s dictionary 1828 Definition

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Originally Posted By: PortlandDawg
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The likelihood of abiogenesis is about the same likelihood of a Unicorn vomiting out the Universe.


Look at you creating new religions! 2000 years from now you might be in a book with all kinds of stories supporting your view.


All hail the Unicorn for it barfed forth life. Hail. Hail. Hail.


The silly atheists made up the Flying Spaghetti Monster religion when they realized they had no arguments. Just like they made up the Flat Earth myth, not to be confused with the erroneous belief in a flat earth, and other misrepresentations and fallacies

This shows that atheists are desperate and using desperate measures

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Originally Posted By: dagesh
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The likelihood of abiogenesis is about the same likelihood of a Unicorn vomiting out the Universe.


Look at you creating new religions! 2000 years from now you might be in a book with all kinds of stories supporting your view.


That wouldn’t be a religion. It would be a naturalistic hypothesis. Unicorns are natural creatures, not supernatural. See Webster’s dictionary 1828 Definition


I made up a new scientific hypothesis. A giant space rhinosaurus died, and his body created the earth, and out of his DNA sprang life. That’s why we have DNA similarities. We all descend from that mighty rhinosaurus Has just as much supporting evidence

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The existence of life is evidence that a supernatural Being exists, that is if you accept the Law of Biogenesis, which has mountains of supporting evidence


The Law of Biogenesis is destroyed with the old chicken or the egg query. Introducing superstition into that equation is hardly proof of biogenesis. Even if life travels to new worlds via space rocks, the very beginning of life, the first life to ever exist is a complete mystery to science. Theories of primordial soup hold just as much weight, and in my opinion more than creation.

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I do believe that both creationism and abiogenesis would say the chicken came first. You have to have a reproductive system to make eggs, right?

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I do believe that both creationism and abiogenesis would say the chicken came first. You have to have a reproductive system to make eggs, right?


Which evolved first, the ovary or the oviduct of a chicken?

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Originally Posted By: dagesh
I do believe that both creationism and abiogenesis would say the chicken came first. You have to have a reproductive system to make eggs, right?


Well I don't know because I don't believe in any superstition that would explain it. wink

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Start a new thread if you want to talk about religion.

As for trying to "prove" God or a Religion is right or that scientifically God/Religion is the only intelligent conclusion is the most ridiculous and moronic thing I have ever seen or heard. Religion is FAITH based - there is no proof of god. Even less that one set of religious principals is the only true and right way to God. smdh

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Originally Posted By: dagesh
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I do believe that both creationism and abiogenesis would say the chicken came first. You have to have a reproductive system to make eggs, right?


Which evolved first, the ovary or the oviduct of a chicken?


Ok dagesh, I'm climbing out of your rabbit hole now. This was fun though, you should start a religion thread so we don't keep wrecking other threads.

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Logically, the chicken came first, seeing that eggs are produced by reproductive systems. So which evolved firs, the ovary or the oviducts

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You started it, Mason. poke

We haven’t been talking religion, for many minutes. We’ve been talking philosophical paradigms for quite a while, btw. Your position is a philosophical one, not a scientific one.

Don’t conflate the two

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It can be positively affirmed that life does not spring from non living matter. Zero scientific evidence that life springs from non living matter


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Originally Posted By: dagesh
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The likelihood of abiogenesis is about the same likelihood of a Unicorn vomiting out the Universe.


Look at you creating new religions! 2000 years from now you might be in a book with all kinds of stories supporting your view.


All hail the Unicorn for it barfed forth life. Hail. Hail. Hail.


The silly atheists made up the Flying Spaghetti Monster religion when they realized they had no arguments. Just like they made up the Flat Earth myth, not to be confused with the erroneous belief in a flat earth, and other misrepresentations and fallacies

This shows that atheists are desperate and using desperate measures


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dagesh 3:20 And it was written a long conversation to nowhere. Both the OCD and dagesh brought forth their arguments and dragged into the abyss the thread about the orange beast’s approval rating. 3:21 Into the bowels of who gives a crap irrelevance toward the thread’s topic they did intertwine. 3:22 No budging was done on either side. We all suffered at the hands of dogma and or superstition. 3:23 The request was made to move on. Yet it was ignored.


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When you responded to my use of the word superstition which I used to intentionally provoke a response, you showed your tell. All of the rest was just 'egging' you on. wink

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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
When you responded to my use of the word superstition which I used to intentionally provoke a response, you showed your tell. All of the rest was just 'egging' you on. wink


Translation. OCD started it. rofl

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Dagesh 3:24- yet those with understanding perceive that the exchange between Dagesh a[font:Arial Black][/font]nd Old Cold Dawg was initiated by Old Cold Dawg. Dagesh 3:25- Therefore let him who has understanding refrain from starting things that they are not willing to finish, as it is written, no man begins to build a tower without first determining if he has the means to complete it. 3:26. And it is also written that those who wish to drop something, must refrain themselves as well

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dagesh's approval rating is high.

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Does all this mean Athiests are superstitious because they don't believe in God as well? I mean Y'all say science can't prove god exists, but it also can't prove he doesn't nanner


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Originally Posted By: GMdawg
Does all this mean Athiests are superstitious because they don't believe in God as well? I mean Y'all say science can't prove god exists, but it also can't prove he doesn't nanner


They believe in many things that cannot be supported by science or reason, so yes

They just are not a monolithic group. The have differing beliefs on origin of life, origin of the universe, nature of existence. None of which can be supported by science or logic

Google origin of life. You’ll get numerous possible explanations. Each one is believed by many. Panspermia, abiogenesis, etc. no evidence to support any of them

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Does all this mean Athiests are superstitious because they don't believe in God as well? I mean Y'all say science can't prove god exists, but it also can't prove he doesn't nanner


They believe in many things that cannot be supported by science or reason, so yes



But they do believe a clump of cells on another planet is life but here it is not. notallthere

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good lord above.

so we are making this a theological based thread now?

out of interest - where are dinosaurs mentioned in the bible? where is the 100's of million year old history of the earth mentioned in the bible? I mean I get the Great Rhino explanation for DNA and the fact that humans evolved from Apes angle ... but c'mon.


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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
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Does all this mean Athiests are superstitious because they don't believe in God as well? I mean Y'all say science can't prove god exists, but it also can't prove he doesn't nanner


They believe in many things that cannot be supported by science or reason, so yes



But they do believe a clump of cells on another planet is life but here it is not. notallthere


Anything to escape an OBVIOUS truth, they’ll believe

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But they do believe a clump of cells on another planet is life but here it is not. notallthere

Yes that's exactly what they say. All the time I bet.

Or was it that a cluster of cells is not a 'baby' .... I know so confusing.


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No OCD made it theological based.

Dinosaurs? Read the book of Job.

The Bible does not say how old the earth is. Not even an issue.

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This is a political forum. Not a religious forum where you twist scriptures to suit your purposes. You're just like the many who drive people away from Christianity with your "my way or the highway" theory.

That's neither true nor Christian.


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Listen to the master yelling about twisting! rofl

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I don’t want him to face God unprepared




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Listen to the master yelling about twisting! rofl


I always listen to you. It makes me want to puke sometimes, but still.


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I have noticed the puking in your posts.

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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
This is a political forum. Not a religious forum where you twist scriptures to suit your purposes. You're just like the many who drive people away from Christianity with your "my way or the highway" theory.

That's neither true nor Christian.


It’s not my way or the Highway. It’s the Bible that I am affirming and you are denying, which is only an issue now because you profess to follow Jesus. Have you not read His teachiongs?

You took issue when I said those who do not believe the Gospel are condemned, whether Christian, Jew, Moslem, whatever. You called it hate speech. Well, unfortunately for you, I was merely repeating what the Bible says in many places, even by Jesus Himself. So to you, Jesus, Peter, Paul, Moses, et al are guilty of hate speech

Then you say “various resurrections to give people a second chance after death. That is NOWHERE in the Bible. You got that from some false teacher, not the Bible

If you think I’m wrong, show me where that is in the Bible. I’ve studied the Bible for years, and it’s not there

Your theology deceives people with false hope.

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It's your interpretation of the bible. Even Christians have so many religions within it that it's hard to keep count of them all.


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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
I have noticed the puking in your posts.


If you would stop gagging people with your propaganda that would be greatly reduced.


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Listen to the master yelling about twisting! rofl


I always listen to you. It makes me want to puke sometimes, but still.


Also, it’s not yours and my job to CHANGE the teachings of Jesus so people won’t be offended. The teachings of the REAL Jesus were offensive to EVERYONE who had not learned and been drawn by the Father

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So as a Christian, you think God is a lousy communicator, is that your point?

The Bible is very clear. The Gospel is very clear. Believe and be saved. If you do not believe, you will perish. What is complicated about that?

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