Missed the debate last night and watching a replay this morning. Had to laugh a minute ago when Bloomberg had a slip of tongue talking about the 40 dems elected in 2018. He said he funded 21 of them and then said he "bought"... got them elected. Wow.
Half way through and I thought Bernie was going to take a pounding, but it hasn't really happened. All the winner/loser reports I've read this morning had Bernie basically listed as a winner by default because nothing is expected to change after last night.
Pete still sounds like the corporate dem. Bloomberg is just creepy. Steyer took a shot on prisons that hurt him and he looked unprepared. Biden was alert for the first half but still had some word salad moments. Bernie took some opening heat but seemed to weather it and then it just stopped. Amy is still bland. Warren is making a case to be VP, I think she knows she missed her shot to be POTUS.
This audience seems stacked. There have been a bunch of cheers for Bloomberg that seem out of place. He's not cheer worthy at all. And they have been quiet for most of the others. Pete and Biden got minor cheers but I haven't noticed others getting them at all. This seems like a bloomberg bought or DNC stacked audience.
No, it was SC, where there are very few far left supporters has nothing to do with a stacked audience.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Well that explains the lack of cheers for Bernie and Liz, but what did Bloomberg say that got the rousing cheers? Not a thing. That's what I noticed more than anything.
Well that explains the lack of cheers for Bernie and Liz, but what did Bloomberg say that got the rousing cheers? Not a thing. That's what I noticed more than anything.
We don't have to agree with each other, to respect each others opinion.
I saw a TYT clip that questioned the audience and was listening for it but had no idea it was a thing on twitter last night. It was definitely a more centrist audience and the ticket distribution explains that. the campaigns got equal amounts but the DNC, the SC Dem Party, and the National Black Caucus got them too. That explains the more centrist audience, but still does not explain why Bloomberg got those out of place cheers.
Here’s how tickets were allocated for the South Carolina Democratic debate
What we know about how tickets were distributed.
Candidates on the debate stage were markedly rowdier on Tuesday — and they weren’t the only ones. Throughout the night, the audience seemingly was, too.
In moment after moment, including when Sen. Bernie Sanders pressed former New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg on the overwhelming support he receives from billionaires, the audience responded effusively with boos. Notably, in several instances, the reaction seemed to favor Bloomberg, who was once again confronted by multiple candidates over issues including “stop and frisk” and alleged sexist comments.
The apparent support for Bloomberg from the crowd raised questions about whether there was an outsized presence of his supporters in the audience, given the extensive cheers he seemed to garner at the event compared to the Nevada debate. Speculation on Twitter was only amplified by a local news article that went viral, which claimed tickets started at a whopping $1,750 to $3,200 for donors looking to sponsor a package of events, including the debate. An update was later published to indicate that these ticket options were removed from the Charleston County Democrats’ website.
Bloomberg’s campaign has made clear that it did not pay any supporters to participate in the audience, and a spokesperson told Vox that each candidate was given an equal number of tickets for the event by the Democratic National Committee. Before the debate, Bloomberg sent a list of guests he invited, which ranged from former Baltimore Mayor Stephanie Rawlings Blake to Reverend Sharon Risher, a gun violence survivor.
According to the Charleston County Democratic Party, tickets for the debate were extremely limited and allocated by organizers of the debate, including the DNC. During past debates, such as the one that took place in Miami, Florida, last year, donors were able to purchase sponsorships for access to the debate night and related receptions, and many wondered whether a similar arrangement may have been what gave the audience a pro-Bloomberg vibe. The South Carolina Democratic Party, which had access to some of the tickets for the evening, said explicitly that it did not sell individual tickets.
Here’s what we know about how tickets were distributed for Tuesday’s South Carolina debate.
What we know about how tickets were allocated According to a Bloomberg campaign spokesperson, all seven candidates were allocated an equal number of tickets for the debate by the Democratic National Committee. A Bloomberg campaign official told NBC News’s Josh Lederman that the campaign did not pay audience members to go to the debate.
Access to tickets was limited for individuals who were not affiliated with the campaigns or the organizers of the debate, according to the Charleston County Democratic Party: “Tickets are extremely limited. The campaigns of participating candidates will have a set number of free tickets to distribute to their supporters,” the group stated. “Ticket allocations will be determined by the national party and other host organizations.”
According to DNC spokesperson Xochitl Hinojosa, the tickets were divided between the DNC, campaigns, and the South Carolina Democratic Party, along with debate’s hosts: the Congressional Black Caucus Institute, CBS, and Twitter.
The South Carolina Democratic Party says it did not sell tickets to the Democratic debate and allocated the 400 tickets it received to “hundreds of activists, county party leaders, community leaders, State Representatives, State Senators, candidates, & elected officials from every level of government in SC at no cost.”
In the case of at least one past debate, attendees have been able to pay thousands of dollars to sponsor the debate and obtain tickets. As indicated by a story from WCSC, a CBS affiliate based in Charleston, such options were once listed on the Charleston County Democratic Party website, though they’ve since been taken down. “The Gaillard is only so big and this is something that is just a hot ticket from across the country. These kind of events really are set up for sponsors and things like that,” Charleston County Democratic Party Chair Colleen Condon previously told the network.
Outstanding questions we still have
The DNC has not responded to a request for comment about how many tickets are doled out to sponsors who pay to attend. We don’t yet know if there were a disproportionate number of Bloomberg supporters in the audience compared to supporters of other candidates.
Biden is doing much better in this debate but I still feel sorry for him because his mental decline is so evident. Somebody should step in and tell him he had a good run and it's time to bow out gracefully. If he somehow were to win the nomination, Trump would own him because he can't think on his feet anymore. Sad.
BUT from the polling and his performance so far I think he'll likely win SC with Bernie coming in second. I don't get it but I can see it.
Looking at al the non-Bernie candidates and asking myself which one would best represent the center in a one on one with Bernie from here on out and IMHO Pete is the obvious answer. But Pete's numbers with POC are abysmal. Biden's numbers are better but his mental status is super suspect. Bloomberg's numbers are better but he's only popular for the money he's spending... The rest can't get there.
If things go the way people are talking and Bernie comes out of super tuesday with a big lead, I think it's time to unite behind him.
If Biden wins SC, he should go out on top and retire with that win. He's not the left's future.
Disagree. Biden and the others must hang in until the Convention.
At that point they can give their delegates and ask their supporters to support one of them.
This will give one of them enough delegates going in, in order to receive many more delegates from the second phase of the Convention, thus overcoming Bernie and winning the nomination.
The debate itself was a joke. I've never seen one which was handled so poorly by the moderators. It would have been much more appealing if there were some technology that would animate it in real time. If Bernie is nominated and we have to watch Trump vs Bern, I demand that this technology be invented.
The constant interruptions, talking way past the allotted time (why are their mics not just cut at this point?), and candidates all standing there waving their arms in the air, like they need a hall pass, was ridiculous.
Warren just stands there, hunched over like she's listening intently, waiting for the name drop. She then argues that she has a right to respond and goes into some irrelevant rant.
Bloomy's ill-placed joke about being surprised the others showed up after their previous butt-whoopin' was, well, not funny at all, cringe-worthy at best. Generally, when he opens his mouth, that's the result.
Booty talking over Bernie for a solid 30 seconds with "well let's talk about that, let's talk about that, let's talk about that"... Shut your pie-hole and maybe we can!
Biden finally decided to quit acting like the time clock was a time-bomb, and cutting himself off. That resulted in him merely using the extra time to express the fact the the others weren't obeying the clock and he wasn't going to either.
Steyer still fighting for the black vote when the fact is, he's getting no votes at all... And the Howdy Doody tie? What was that??
Klobuchar looking like she's going to start shaking violently and burst into tears of frustration, I guess that's always entertaining.
Bernie, Bernie, Bernie... I don't think we need to hear 350 more times that "other countries are doing it and we can too". Nobody really believes that you pounding your fists on the table while painting pictures of unicorns farting fields of gold will get it done anyway. I thought is was interesting that he promised that when he legalizes marijuana he would make sure that it will be black people selling it. Good stuff Bern!
My son is a college student and has been a big Bernie fan for about six years. He couldn't watch in real-time last night and sent a simple text...
Not one question about the open border policy or Sanctuary city craziness or putting the illegals ahead of American citizens wow CNN did a nice job of protecting those freaks SMH
Your right not one FBI that interrogation to trap her into lying to them as they did with the Trump friends ,that's really a effin shame and a miscarriage of justice to protect that monster but that's the libs for ya.
More Than 200 Native Americans Write Letter To Warren About Her Past Heritage Claims
William Davis Reporter
February 26, 2020
More than 200 Native Americans wrote a letter to Democratic Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren urging her to address her past claims of Native American heritage.
“As concerned citizens of the Cherokee Nation, United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee Indians, and the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians, we recognize our responsibility to stand up for our communities: to those we claim and those who claim us,” they wrote on Medium. https://medium.com/@ewarrenisnotcherokee/open-letter-to-elizabeth-warren-from-cherokee-citizens-ab053578bd95
The Native American activists also added that while Warren has done some “good things” for Native Americans, her past heritage claims cloud those things. (RELATED: Flashback: Elizabeth Warren Became Rich By Defending The Rich)
“You have done some good things for Indian Country during your time in political service,” they wrote. “You have also done real harm. Right now you have the platform and the opportunity to stand firmly on the side of justice.” Elizabeth Warren continued to tell her story about allegedly being fired from a job because she was pregnant during Tuesday's Democratic debate. (Screenshot CBS News)
Warren responded to the group Tuesday night with a ten page letter of her own, apologizing for her past claims.
“I am not a person of color,” Warren wrote. “I am a white woman, and that is how I identify. In addition, I am not a tribal citizen.”
“I was wrong to have identified as a Native American, and, without qualification or excuse, I apologize for the harm I caused,” she continued.
Warren has been attacked over past claims of Native American heritage, including by President Donald Trump who frequently refers to the senator as “Pocahontas.”
Warren took a DNA test in 2018 in an attempt to prove her heritage, but the test found that she was just 1/1024th Native American. Warren later scrubbed the results from her campaign website.
This audience seems stacked. There have been a bunch of cheers for Bloomberg that seem out of place. He's not cheer worthy at all. And they have been quiet for most of the others. Pete and Biden got minor cheers but I haven't noticed others getting them at all. This seems like a bloomberg bought or DNC stacked audience.
It's a conspiracy I tell ya!
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
This audience seems stacked. There have been a bunch of cheers for Bloomberg that seem out of place. He's not cheer worthy at all. And they have been quiet for most of the others. Pete and Biden got minor cheers but I haven't noticed others getting them at all. This seems like a bloomberg bought or DNC stacked audience.
It's a conspiracy I tell ya!
Funny it also got a lot of coverage. I posted the fairest article I could. BUT NOTHING explains Bloomberg getting those cheers for nothing. He said nothing of substance that deserved cheers, even if the audience was full of republicans.
Your right not one FBI that interrogation to trap her into lying to them as they did with the Trump friends ,that's really a effin shame and a miscarriage of justice to protect that monster but that's the libs for ya.
If Biden wins SC, he should go out on top and retire with that win. He's not the left's future.
Disagree. Biden and the others must hang in until the Convention.
At that point they can give their delegates and ask their supporters to support one of them.
This will give one of them enough delegates going in, in order to receive many more delegates from the second phase of the Convention, thus overcoming Bernie and winning the nomination.
Somebody figured out that Trump really doesn't want to run against Bernie. BUT I'm sure Bernie can count on your primary vote like you said...
Funny it also got a lot of coverage. I posted the fairest article I could. BUT NOTHING explains Bloomberg getting those cheers for nothing. He said nothing of substance that deserved cheers, even if the audience was full of republicans.
That's an easy one. He has blanketed the airwaves and has a good deal of black support. I'm not sure why he has so much black support but he does.
You may have to come to grips with the fact that not every state is a bastion of far left progressive supporters.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
I will as soon as you come to grips with the fact that Bernie is the guy to beat and Pete is a loser.
Hey, it's not my fault your ilk refuses to nominate the smartest, most rational candidate on the ticket. In case you missed it, that doesn't make him the loser.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
You sound like a Trump supporter. If your guy wins everything is fair. If your guy loses it was a conspiracy.
Setting up your excuses in advance.
Hardly. Posted that to let you know I wasn't on an island alone saying it. There are many more where that come from, so maybe it's you missing the obvious.
I will as soon as you come to grips with the fact that Bernie is the guy to beat and Pete is a loser.
Hey, it's not my fault your ilk refuses to nominate the smartest, most rational candidate on the ticket. In case you missed it, that doesn't make him the loser.
You guys are rooting for Putin's two favorite candidates.
If Biden wins SC, he should go out on top and retire with that win. He's not the left's future.
Disagree. Biden and the others must hang in until the Convention.
At that point they can give their delegates and ask their supporters to support one of them.
This will give one of them enough delegates going in, in order to receive many more delegates from the second phase of the Convention, thus overcoming Bernie and winning the nomination.
Somebody figured out that Trump really doesn't want to run against Bernie. BUT I'm sure Bernie can count on your primary vote like you said...
If Bernie could count he'd be able to tell us how much his health care will really cost.
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