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So is it always evil to say a party is evil?

i already quoted you saying that.

and i already answered your ridiculous question with a "yes". stop asking.

I actually agree. What I don't agree with is your response to the quote (paraphrasing) that if you don't protest evil, if you just kinda go along with evil (supporting, if you will) you are as responsible as the person doing the evil.

Also comparing a race to a political party is a gross category error

not when a political party targeted a specific race/ethnicity to demonize and ultimately commit genocide against in order to gain and stay in power.

or are you know denying that the nazi party didnt blame a whole host of issues on the jews?

So what evil am I going along with or tolerating? What do you think he is insinuating?

Of course the Nazi party was evil and did that. But I’m not demonizing a race or ethnicity. So what’s your point

I asked if the Nazi party was evil, because y
Of MGH’s statement that I was evil for purportedly calling a party evil. But you just did the same thing (called a party evil)

So I’m evil, you’re evil, and MGH is evil for calling us evil according to that definition

so if we're all evil.....what the hell is your point?

I’m not saying you’re evil. I’m saying by MGH’s faulty definition of evil, you’re evil.

People who call people evil are evil

Calling a party evil is the same as calling people evil

You called the Nazi party evil

Do the math

You guys are raking over the coals for a logical fallacy

BTW, this whole diversion is a red herring by all of you to divert from my question, what is the basis of morality. Well played Red Herring

lol youre the one who made the ridiculous comment to begin with.

you could've easily went "ok my bad i didnt mean it that way", but instead you doubled down and spun.

come on man. its all good.

#spamesh

This dude has made entire threads unreadable.

I didn't try to come up with a definition of Evil. Please don't misrepresent what I post.

As for the rest of it - as I said - not engaging but still wait for your position on morality. I note that you are still playing games and are unprepared to simply state your opinion.

What’s wrong with what I said? No one has answered that

You all are just spinning webs of fallacy like a spider

You thought you were backing up what MGH said by posting the quote. Now you are in no position to criticize it, because it has been shown to be a fallacy.

As to basis of morality. I asked first. You don’t want to answer my question, for good reason

My basis for morality apart from God? ( not religion, I never argued that religion was). What is the basis for morality if there is no God. Beats me. That’s your worldview. I don’t need to defend your worldview.

It’s not government or society or law or upbringing, because Naziism, which is evil , was legal, endorsed by the government, society and the majority in Germany in the 1940s. So that is not a solid basis for morality

Give me a solid basis for morality.

I offered to drop it but the others can’t. Blame them.

I said several times now I will stop if they stop, and they choose not to. So you need to ask the others to stop. Which you won’t. Because you want them to continue, and want me to continue and you want to make snippy remarks about it. Its basically an ad hominem. If you wanted it to stop, you would ask the others to stop replying to me. That’s all you need to do

So if you all stop replying, I will stop.

Cheers

Matthew 7:6

2 Corinthians 2:16.

And many devout Christians fought and died to keep slavery legal. Many of them fought to keep segregation legal. many of them fought to keep women from having the right to vote.

Morality can not be defined by Christians who use their faith to promote evil.

Who said morality is defined by Christians? Not me.

All of those things were the result of failure to exegete scripture. But morality existed before scripture too. So what is the basis of morality?

No, you just say that other organizations are evil while ignoring to point the finger at your own.

I vote for whatever party has the best platform and policy, so I don’t have an organization.

So you even vote for evil Democrats? If not, you have a party, you just refuse to claim it in public. And yes, political parties are organizations.

The slave trade would fall under the category of manstealing, which is forbidden in Christianity. 1 Timothy 3:10

Interracial marriage is not forbidden in the Bible. The prohibitions in marriage were due to idolatry, not race

No segregation based on race in the Bible. It was based on idolatry. Ruth was a Moabite and Rahab was a Canaanite. Also, people from other races were welcome

No segregation in the apostolic church

Woman not voting is not a biblical concept.

So you’re right. Christians that don’t know their Bibleare not a good basis for morality

But the basis of morality is not religion, and morality existed before the Bible, so no one is arguing those as a basis of morality

So now we're supposed to believe that only you can guide us to the truth? That all those other Christians were wrong but for some reason you hold the key? The key to tell us what is evil. The key to teaching us morality?

One thing I'm sure of, I know what God tells us about judging others.

What do you do with the verse that says “beware of false prophets...you will know them by their fruit”? Did you cross that out in your Bible?

What do you do with.

Luke 12:57

John 7:24-

Acts 4:19

He didn’t say anything about judging a political parties platform though, did he?

How do you vote if you’re not allowed to judge right and wrong? Lol.

And you’re not able to judge that the slave trade, segregation, etc are wrong?

You can’t judge anything, so there is no standard for morality. Nice position.

No. I pay close attention to it and as such dismiss everything you say.

No, you did.

See,now you’re judging me. Lololololol!!!!

There's a standard for my morality. There is no standard that permits me to impose my morality on everyone else. I guess I just side a little more with those trying to feed the poor and heal the sick. You know, like Jesus did.

No is the correct answer. So Matthew 7:1 has nothing to do with judging a political parties platform. You abused Matthew 7:1, taking it out of context. Nice job, there.

I'm deciding that I'm not considering you as having any key to the truth or the path to follow. The same way I feel about most religious zealots.

I'm not the one who chooses to spin scriptures into me way of thinking.

A. I don’t have the power to impose anything

B. Jesus did not teach government imposed socialism. He taught private charity. You will never see Jesus teaching that the Roman Empire should tax people to feed the poor. He told his disciples to. But see point e for further clarification

C. I give to the needy as I am able. My wife and I just fed a group of people Saturday.

D. I know conservative Christians who give half or more of their income to the needy. Do you identify with them

E. I believe in tax social programs for the needy. I am a moderate in fiscal matters.

so god defines morality, is what you are saying.

is that the same god that drowned/murdered just about everyone in a flood? Or the same god that allowed the Salem witch trials to happen? #asking for a friend

A. The flood was a Divine Judgement. Different category


B. God had NOTHING to do with Salem Witch Trials. Those people did not know what Covenant they were living other, apparently

Neither does any other Christian zealot in our society. But there's still a lot of them on TV, preaching in mega churches with a lot of influence.