this breaks down how the electoral college works and why its jacked up. it shows how a candidate could even win presidency with less than 30% of the popular vote.
the electoral college really is a participation trophy system. and we all southern states and conservatives love participation trophies, such as civil war statues.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
The electoral college haas worked fine for over 200 years. But as soon as crybaby Democrats lose one they have tohave it ousted. Do you really want wackos on the East and West coast setting policy for us?
Yes. At least more than we want the science denying, poorly educated, bible toting, race baiting, rebel flag waving, gun wagging, nut jobs in the middle if the country setting policy.
See it’s easy to group people and mark them all the same.
Dude science denying, in what way?Poorly educated? There are many good college in the Midwest and South.Bible toting? I guess to you thats a bad thing.Race baiting? How about a few instances of Race baiting. Rebel flag waving? That flag means something to some people in the South. Just because you and some of your self important buddies decide it means something Racist doesn't matter. Gun wagging? We just learned gun owners are not the problem. I'm talking VA gun rally.
I lived to California for a couple of years. There are a lot of good ,hardworking, reasonable .people there. The problem is that there are a lot of them like you.
The electoral college haas worked fine for over 200 years. But as soon as crybaby Democrats lose one they have tohave it ousted. Do you really want wackos on the East and West coast setting policy for us?
See, this is exactly the kind of post I was hoping for. Along with you as well as diam and a few others, You haven't really figured out who the cry baby really was in all of this have you?
What I would like is for every Americans vote to count the same. And let's be honest, why would you want every American to have an equal voice in who is president? Since 2000 your party has managed to win the presidency with a minority of the votes twice. So it is working well..... for some people.
But let's get back to who the real crybaby is in all of this. That would be Trump and his bruised ego. Trump couldn't stand to admit he lost the popular vote. His ego wouldn't allow it.
First he made up a lie to make it sound like he actually won the popular vote........
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Trump renews unfounded allegations of illegal voting
Then, to try and back up his lie, he actually spent your tax payer dollars to form a commission to investigate all of these "illegal votes". Of course the commission disbanded later when nothing was found to back his claims.
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Member Of Disbanded Trump Voter Fraud Commission Speaks Out
So the next time you folks wish to talk about how it means nothing? Or the next time Diam wants to say something stupid like, "go ahead and prove once again just how hard headed u are no matter how bad u make yourself look".
You folks need to send those messages to Trump. He's the one that wasted your tax payer dollars because his ego can't stand the thought that a terrible candidate like Hillary was more popular than he was.
And maybe you guys should get you your own hashtag..... #votesdon'tmatter
I mean Trump is still repeating this same rhetoric even after his own appointed commission could find nothing.
Diam better hurry up and send him the message that he needs to stop proving once again just how hard headed he is no matter how bad bad he makes himself look.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
Trump’s 29th Trip To Mar-a-Lago Brings Golf Tab To 334 Years Of Presidential Salary
The president often brags about not taking a paycheck, but his golf hobby has now cost taxpayers $133.8 million.
President Donald Trump returned to Mar-a-Lago on Friday evening for the 29th golf-related trip of his presidency to his for-profit Palm Beach, Florida, resort, raising his total taxpayer golf tab to $133.8 million.
That figure translates to 334 years of the presidential salary that Trump and his supporters frequently boast he is not taking.
During Barack Obama’s presidency, Trump frequently claimed he was playing golf too much and at too great an expense to taxpayers.
“I play golf to relax. My company is in great shape. @BarackObama plays golf to escape work while America goes down the drain,” Trump tweeted in December 2011.
“Can you believe that, with all of the problems and difficulties facing the U.S., President Obama spent the day playing golf. Worse than Carter,” he wrote three years later.
As he began his own run for the White House, candidate Trump repeatedly promised that golf would never make it onto a President Trump’s schedule. “I love golf, but if I were in the White House, I don’t think I’d ever see Turnberry again. I don’t think I’d ever see Doral again,” he told a rally audience in February 2016, referring to his courses in Scotland and Miami. “I don’t ever think I’d see anything. I just want to stay in the White House and work my ass off.”
Yet after three years in office, Trump has spent two-and-a-half times as many days on a golf course as Obama had done at the same point in his first term. If Trump plays golf both Saturday and Sunday, he will have played 248 times. Obama by his 1,123rd day in office had played 92 times.
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And because Trump insists on playing at courses he owns, the cost to taxpayers has been nearly four times as high as it was for Obama. More than two-thirds of Trump’s golf outings involve seven-figure trips aboard Air Force One, mainly to Florida and New Jersey, but also to Los Angeles, Ireland and Scotland. Obama, in contrast, played most of his golf on courses at military bases within a short drive of the White House.
What’s more, Trump’s insistence on playing at courses he owns and profits from has put at least a few million taxpayer dollars into Trump’s cash registers in the form of hotel room and restaurant charges for the White House staff and Secret Service agents who accompany him.
The Washington Post found recently that Trump’s business has charged the Secret Service as much as $650 a room per night at Mar-a-Lago ― more than three times the normal rate that federal employees are supposed to spend in South Florida ― and $17,000 a month for a cottage at Trump’s Bedminster, New Jersey, resort. During an early Mar-a-Lago visit, White House employees ran up a $1,006 bar tab, which taxpayers also paid.
How many taxpayer dollars precisely are flowing into Trump’s pocket is not known because the White House refuses to detail how many executive branch employees stay at Trump properties and how much they are being billed. The White House on Friday did not respond to HuffPost’s queries on the matter for this weekend’s trip.
The president is the sole beneficiary of the trust that now owns his family business. He promised during his campaign that he would separate himself from the Trump Organization should he win, but reneged on that pledge even before taking office.
Trump similarly promised he would release his tax returns when he ran for president, but he has refused to do that as well.
Seeing as he was actually impeached, I'd say there was actually a return on the investment.
In what way. Trumps favorability went up 10 points. 61% think the impeachment was a waste of time and money. Most people think the Dems have turned their party into a joke.But keep your hate strong Pit. Maybe you can find a 14 year old kid to punch in the face because of his hat. I'm not sure the American people are impressed with that stuff.
Bill Clinton's approval rating went up too. Thr only difference between Trump and Bill Clinton is Trump managed to cheat on three wives instead of one and Trump has a much longer list of sexual accusers.
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Since last week when he openly admitted to doing what he did with Rudy, I'd say not one dime. It was illegal then and it's illegal now. Just because Trump and McConnell rigged the outcome of the impeachment doesn't mean he wasn't guilty. It just means republican senators were either too spineless to act or placed party politics over the integrity of our country and it's institutions.
Seeing as he was actually impeached, I'd say there was actually a return on the investment.
In what way. Trumps favorability went up 10 points. 61% think the impeachment was a waste of time and money. Most people think the Dems have turned their party into a joke.But keep your hate strong Pit. Maybe you can find a 14 year old kid to punch in the face because of his hat. I'm not sure the American people are impressed with that stuff.
He got a bump in favorability for almost a week. but he's back in the mid/low 40s again because he doesn't know how to shut up and take the win. You think red blooded patriots enjoyed seeing him treat a purple heart recipient with such disgraceful dishonor as personal vendetta payback? If you did, then you must have forgotten the oath you took to serve.
Suddenly all Ukraine investigation are to go through EDNY as Barr puts his thumb on the scale for Rudy. This includes Parnas and others.
DOJ taps U.S. attorney to 'coordinate' Ukraine inquiries
But the department's notification to Congress is vague about which current investigations are now subject to special supervision by Brooklyn-based prosecutor
The top federal prosecutor in Brooklyn, Richard Donoghue, is now vetting and managing all Ukraine-related efforts by the Justice Department in the wake of President Donald Trump's impeachment over his actions toward the former Soviet republic.
Donoghue will "coordinate" these activities in the interest of deconfliction and efficiency, Assistant Attorney General for Legislative Affairs Stephen Boyd said in a letter sent Tuesday to Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler and his Republican counterpart, Doug Collins. But the letter is vague about the specific Ukraine-linked issues that might require review.
In a Jan. 17 memo, Deputy Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen, who picked Donoghue for the role, simply referred to "several distinct open investigations being handled by different U.S. Attorney's Offices and/or Department components that in some way potentially relate to Ukraine."
Last October, federal prosecutors in Manhattan obtained the indictments of two associates of Trump personal attorney Rudy Giuliani on campaign finance charges allegedly related to an effort to influence U.S. officials on behalf of a Ukrainian government official. The scheme also involved efforts to oust the U.S. ambassador to Kyiv at the time, Marie Yovanovitch.
Giuliani was not charged in the case, but was also active in trying to get Yovanovitch out as part of an effort to urge Ukrainian officials to launch and announce investigations into former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter's role on the board of a Ukrainian energy company.
Prosecutors have said a new indictment is likely in the case of Giuliani's associates, but the government has not indicated whether more defendants will be charged. The FBI is also probing aspects of Giuliani's dealings in Ukraine, witnesses have said.
While he is under investigation, Giuliani has also offered unspecified information to the Justice Department that he says implicates the Bidens in criminal activity. Attorney General Bill Barr has selected the U.S. Attorney in Pittsburgh, Scott Brady, to receive that information and consider what, if any, steps should be taken on it.
It is unclear whether the FBI or any U.S. Attorney's Office is currently investigating the Bidens, who have denied any wrongdoing.
It's also not known whether the Justice Department is directly investigating the controversial Trump phone call in which he appeared to request a corruption probe of the Bidens as "a favor" from the Ukrainian president. Barr ruled that the call did not violate campaign finance laws, but department officials have refused to say if any other potential legal violations related to the call are being examined.
The State Department has also investigated whether Giuliani and his associates sought to monitor or intimidate Yovanovitch, but it's unknown whether Justice Department officials joined that probe.
Rosen said he was not transferring any pending inquiries to Donoghue's office, but said expansions of those matters and any new investigations would need approval from Donoghue and Justice Department headquarters.
"We are implementing this policy to avoid duplication of efforts across Offices and components, to obviate the need for deconfliction at a later stage of potentially overlapping investigations, and to efficiently marshal the resources of the Department to address the handling of potentially relevant new information," Rosen wrote. "Any and all new matters relating to Ukraine shall be directed exclusively to EDNY for investigation and proper handling."
While Rosen's memo was issued in January, it alludes to Donoghue's role as coordinator being underway even before the memo was sent.
Former Attorney General Jeff Sessions appointed Donoghue as interim U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York in 2018. He has never been formally nominated by President Donald Trump or confirmed by the Senate. Berman, who is overseeing the case involving Giuliani's associates, has also never been nominated or confirmed.
Donoghue previously spent about a decade as a federal prosecutor, eventually serving as chief of the criminal division for the same office he now runs. Before rejoining the Justice Department, he was the top litigation counsel for software firm CA Technologies, now part of Broadcom.
A spokesman for Donoghue declined to comment Tuesday on his activities related to Ukraine. But a press release on the prosecutor's website shows his office recently extradited at least one alleged cybercriminal from that nation.
The letter departs from the Justice Department's typical stance of not commenting on ongoing investigations or their management. Boyd said confirming the roles of Donghue and Brady publicly was appropriate because press accounts and comments by lawmakers "significantly distorted the public's understanding of the Department's handling of such cases."
Rosen's January memo to department leaders is branded as "law enforcement sensitive" and "for official use only," but also stresses that a series of Ukraine-related matters being probed by Justice have "been publicly reported."
Trump is about to face some serious waters. There was already a global slowdown in the markets, and I want to make it clear to everyone that trump isn’t the cause of that.
However, I’ve stated before that how trump handles this is another story. I hope it doesn’t happen, but there is a good chance this corona virus is the event that triggers a massive sell off that economists have said is long overdue just because of business cycles and such.
Trump won’t be judged for the market sell off. He will be judged on how he handles it. Based on how’s he has handled his own self started trade war, I don’t have much faith that he can lead us out of this potential mess.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
oil is trading at 47 a barrel. way below the 50 dollar threshold. we are in a situation where we HAVE to continue to pump oil now for profit, according to the news.
supply lines are taking a massive hit, and top executives across the country have cut their outlooks to being revenue neutral.
more and more are calling for a rate cut. trump yesterday said we need to go to negative rates.
who goes to negative rates in a so called booming economy?
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
who goes to negative rates in a so called booming economy?
Someone who actually has no clue how the economy works. Low interest rates and massive tax cuts are safeguards to help rebound a bad economy. They are the main insurance policy to help during a recovery.
If you waste that insurance on a good economy simply to over inflate how it looks, there will be nothing left to use when the economy takes a downward turn. That's what we've been witnessing so far during the Trump administration.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
also, under the trump administration, the dow just had the worst point for point drop.
in history. down 1193. 4.43%. 6th straight day of loss, markets in corrections.
again, not gonna blame him for corona, but he gets smoke for how he handles it. blaming the dems is cowardly.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
you really went to the depth of hell (youtube) for this one bro.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
The electoral college haas worked fine for over 200 years. But as soon as crybaby Democrats lose one they have tohave it ousted. Do you really want wackos on the East and West coast setting policy for us?
Yes. At least more than we want the science denying, poorly educated, bible toting, race baiting, rebel flag waving, gun wagging, nut jobs in the middle if the country setting policy.
See it’s easy to group people and mark them all the same.
This is the most bigoted post I’ve seen in a while.
The electoral college haas worked fine for over 200 years. But as soon as crybaby Democrats lose one they have tohave it ousted. Do you really want wackos on the East and West coast setting policy for us?
Yes. At least more than we want the science denying, poorly educated, bible toting, race baiting, rebel flag waving, gun wagging, nut jobs in the middle if the country setting policy.
See it’s easy to group people and mark them all the same.
Dude science denying, in what way?Poorly educated? There are many good college in the Midwest and South.Bible toting? I guess to you thats a bad thing.Race baiting? How about a few instances of Race baiting. Rebel flag waving? That flag means something to some people in the South. Just because you and some of your self important buddies decide it means something Racist doesn't matter. Gun wagging? We just learned gun owners are not the problem. I'm talking VA gun rally.
I lived to California for a couple of years. There are a lot of good ,hardworking, reasonable .people there. The problem is that there are a lot of them like you.
Science denying in what way? That’s what I want to know too
The thing is that people confuse Ontological Naturalism with science. Ontological naturalism is unfalsifiable, but it is starting point assumption for many.
Back to science. Science begins with a naturalistic assumption and uses methodological naturalism, which the method is fine, but the assumption is just an assumption. Which is fine. As such, they exclude any explanation that is not naturalistic. Ok. Then they come up with hypotheses that take many many years to test, which is fine. Then people say that ontological naturalism is correct, because there is no evidence to the contrary. Which is a circular argument
Below is the basic argument naturalists employ A. Even if all the data pointed to an intelligent designer, such an hypothesis is excluded because it is not naturalistic. Dr Todd Scott
B. There is no evidence that anything other than nature exists ( because only naturalistic explanations are considered
C. Therefore ontological naturalism is correct
So basically they prove Ontological naturalism by the fact that science only employs methodological naturalism
I don’t mind naturalistic methodologies. But when they are used to prove naturalistic ontology, I see a circular argument.
I mentioned your syndrome the other day. Are you short too?
You want to follow up on your ad hominem. Ad hominems are for people who dont have a point to make. And you can’t answer what I say, so you use ad hominems.
The electoral college haas worked fine for over 200 years. But as soon as crybaby Democrats lose one they have tohave it ousted. Do you really want wackos on the East and West coast setting policy for us?
Yes. At least more than we want the science denying, poorly educated, bible toting, race baiting, rebel flag waving, gun wagging, nut jobs in the middle if the country setting policy.
See it’s easy to group people and mark them all the same.
This is the most bigoted post I’ve seen in a while.
If you note it was said tongue in cheek. He, Dawg Duty, grouped everyone on the coasts as wackos. I grouped everyone in the middle as I did. Not because I believe everyone in the middle of the country is any or all of those things but to fight his hyperbole with the same. Back to your spam.
The electoral college haas worked fine for over 200 years. But as soon as crybaby Democrats lose one they have tohave it ousted. Do you really want wackos on the East and West coast setting policy for us?
Yes. At least more than we want the science denying, poorly educated, bible toting, race baiting, rebel flag waving, gun wagging, nut jobs in the middle if the country setting policy.
See it’s easy to group people and mark them all the same.
This is the most bigoted post I’ve seen in a while.
If you note it was said tongue in cheek. He, Dawg Duty, grouped everyone on the coasts as wackos. I grouped everyone in the middle as I did. Not because I believe everyone in the middle of the country is any or all of those things but to fight his hyperbole with the same. Back to your spam.
No the guy is a legend in his own mind. Things like facts don't get in his way - and surely to God (if there was one) humor would be .... whoooosh. You even spelled it out in your post what you were doing.
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