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From a Navy buddy of mine (his version said US Navy where this says Soldiers)...

Yes, what is here is under control, and no, that will not last.
The only real question is the degree to which it spreads and the impact it has. Once it gets up steam, it will have much more impact than the flu, most likely... and if the guy from Harvard is right, then yes, we will likely see it back every year, and perhaps even mutated.

Kinda like the Browns... the potential for it to be ugly is huge, but it is just as likely to be completely underwhelming.

DAMN ROOKIES

Not for people like me with COPD. I just had the influenza A around the holidays and it hospitalized me twice. This crap could be a death sentence to people like me.

Don't worry I am sure all of your neighbors love to fly all over the world then come and visit you

Wrap yourself in bubble wrap. Stay on the couch with the curtains pulled. The world is scary.

Not at all, but if it takes off like the flu it will be spread to people in stores, banks, restaurants, and doctors offices... Places geezers go.

It is a little more scary when other people don't take precautions and spread their creeping crud to others. Flu is no joke with COPD bro. It's like a weedless Portland, it sucks.

So I just finished listening to Trump address the virus. That was enough to make me want to die, so problem solved.

Well he is having Pence work his magic on it. Look at his record on containing HIV in Indiana. We’ll be fine.... I’m sure.

I prefer the chair. It feels safer

jc

so are we blaming this one on the Umbrella Corp. or somebody else?

Wanna know something funny - My best friend is from Toluca Mexico, when he moved here, our water and food made him sick for a while. Like for Americans that travel there, its just different stuff in our water that his body was not used to and made him sick.

I go to Mexico just about every year, drink the water, eat the food - first time I went I got sick but not bad. Never been sick since.

If you go to Mexico and don't eat the food.... I dunno, man.

Coronavirus: CDC didn't immediately test COVID-19 case

Patient could be first case of person-to-person transmission caused by the new coronavirus in the general public in the United States.

The head of a Sacramento health system says that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention did not immediately test a patient in what may be the first case of person-to-person transmission of COVID-19 in the general public in the United States.

Dr. David Lubarsky, the CEO of University of California, Davis, Health, said in a note to staff obtained by NBC News that after the patient was transferred to UC Davis Medical Center on Feb. 19, it asked the centers to conduct testing but the federal agency declined.

"We requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, since neither Sacramento County nor CDPH is doing testing for coronavirus at this time," said the note, which was signed by Lubarsky and UC Davis Medical Center interim CEO Brad Simmons. (CDPH is an acronym for California’s Department of Public Health.)

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/coronavirus-cdc-didn-t-immediately-test-covid-19-case-n1143996

So this guy caught it without traveling anywhere and picked it up somewhere.

I know right?!

J/C

I still don't get what all the uproar is about.

Let me know if I am missing anything:

The virus is not as dangerous as the flu
The virus doesn't spread as much as the flu as there still have been a lot more cases of the flu than the CV.

Is this about right?

Nope, not really.

It is a good deal more lethal than the flu.
Mortality rate for the flu is right around 0.1%. The accepted current mortality rate for this is 2%. That is a humongous difference.

We don't know too much publicly about how readily this spreads, yet, but it seems to be as readily as the flu, but it also seems to have similar symptoms. A person with just a slight sniffle, or even no symptoms at all, can spread it by proximity.

The flu is currently more prolific, and hopefully it stays that way... but that isn't really likely at all at this point.


Where we are is this:
Back in January, we learned that there might be a big game.
Today, we're learning that we are literally watching the opening Kick-Off happen right now.


Italy and South Korea are the things I've been focused on lately because they are MAJOR hubs of travel. South Korea has the larger numbers, but Italy is the real kicker because it came out of nowhere.

Factor in how large the out-of-nowhere cluster is with tourism and the and rate of exposure and expansion is essentially now unchecked. Prior to this, there was hope that all of China's draconian measures might contain things. We now know that is not the case and containment has failed; it is now in the wild for sure and WILL spread globally.


So, basically, a way to look at it is that there is now a second flu that will be going around, but this one is 20x deadlier, especially for older/weaker folks.

There were reported 82,772 cases according to Wiki and 2814 deaths.

That's .03

MSN article 20 hours ago have similar numbers, not exactlyt he same, but pretty close.

https://www.bing.com/search?q=how+many+have+died+from+coronavirus&FORM=QSRE5


Since December 2019, when the novel coronavirus (COVID-19) was first discovered in Wuhan, China, it has infected more than 81,000 people worldwide, and caused 2,761 deaths, most of which have been in China, according to the most recent information from the World Health Organization (WHO).

Still less than SARS tho.

Check your understanding of decimals real quick


0.03 is 3.0%
Influenza's mortality rate is 0.001, or 0.1%.


The downfall of SARS (and MERS) was they were TOO deadly and TOO fast.

I already posted this in here, but here it is again to make it easier to find.
Read this: https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archi...Bkj84gIqidLQrpQ

lol no I understand them. didn't meant to put the % after .03. typing too fast. I had edited it before you posted and took it off

lol
I figured, but I'm a smartass by nature

Read the above link for the importance of the differences with SARS.
As for the gross numbers.... I remind you that this kicked off only two months ago and it has been fought with an effort and speed the world has never shown ANY other disease, and it is still where it is now.

Russia closed its border with China weeks ago, man. Let that sink in for a minute.

Yeah, but lets be honest.

Anthrax
Ebola
Swine Flu
etc.

The world (and the US) has a tendency to blow these things out of proportion at times.

I completely concede that point, and HOPEFULLY (kinda) this one falls into that bracket as well, but to be fair, it is the MEDIA tends to blow things out of proportion because they feed on the responses to sensationalism.


This one has the CDC effectively telling people to make plans, now, and the World Health Organization warning governments to prepare for its arrival after Brazil, Georgia, Greece, North Macedonia, Norway, Pakistan and Romania reported their first coronavirus cases in the last day. Italy, Iran, and South Korea are already at epidemic stage. The US just got its first case where patient didn’t have a relevant travel history or exposure to another patient with the virus.



It might be nothing... but, it might be something.
If it's something, that something is big.

“The reason why cold weather is presumed to cause spreading of coughs, colds and flu is that cold air causes irritation in the nasal passages and airways, which makes us more susceptible to viral infection,” said Simon Clarke, an expert in cellular microbiology at Britain’s University of Reading.

“It’s entirely possible that we might get a spring-time lull,” said Simon Clarke, an expert in cellular microbiology at Britain’s University of Reading.. “It’s unlikely to make things worse, but we don’t know for sure - it’s an educated guess.”

Paul Hunter, an infectious disease expert at Britain’s University of East Anglia, echoes that, saying he thinks it’s likely “that the disease will decline substantially during the summer months in the northern hemisphere”.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china...s-idUSKBN20F1RG


“It isn't so much that liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so many things that aren't so.”

- Ronald Reagan

But you said our President lied about the information at hand.

He and the Scientists are pretty much in agreement.

Vice President Mike Pence said that President Trump asked him to reach out to Democratic leaders in Congress, particularly House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer, about efforts to counter the coronavirus outbreak in an effort to "push politics aside."

The President said to me, look I want you to reach out to the Republican and Democrat leadership," Pence said, "Because we want to push politics aside, we want to make sure we get the resources that we need to respond to this to make sure that the CDC, all of our agencies, have the support that they need."

https://www.foxnews.com/media/mike-pence-hannity-trump-coronavirus-pelosi-schumer

It's time to come together because Corona doesn't care how we vote, it's coming for us all.

then he probably shouldnt be holding press conference blaming the dems for the market drop with regards to the virus.

he already made it about politics.

The Dems were doing the same.

It is time to end the politics and survive this Coronavirus.

I taught Math and Science. I'm much better at math, but I know a bit about science. I think there is a correlation to cold air and viruses because the virus can survive longer in colder temperatures in both the air and in nasal/airway passages in the human body.

However, it is indisputable that the main reason why these types of viruses spread is because people tend to stay indoors and in crowded locations more during cold weather months. This close contact w/others is the biggest cause of spreading respiratory illnesses.

Switzerland just got a couple dozen new cases.

And a very bad sign: Nigeria just got its first case.

well he put pence in charge, so we're gonna combat the virus with thoughts and prayers.

which means you arent too far off from your ouija board prediction.

name still flows well!

Oh man, 5 people from that diamond princess cruise ship have died due to the virus.

It think death numbers are a matter of semantics, as about 50,000 people die from the flu or flu symptoms every year.
So in truth, more total number of people do die from the flu at this point.

Like anyone else using statistics, they choose the numbers that best fit their argument.