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Why is it so hard for you to list trumps qualifications?

You get direct answers from us yet won’t do the same.

I’m not responding to you any more until you list HIS credentials back in 2016.

And do so without mentioning Hillary.


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Is there a law stating he must release his tax returns?


No, it means there's zero proof that he's a billionaire. Exactly what I said before you tried to change directions.


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As long as we can keep the Left from ruining things, AMERICA will be GREAT. America is great because of the great principles of the founding fathers. Keep those principles, and America will always be great.


Yeah, quality healthcare for all and better education for everyone is so evil. That might ruin us all!



At what cost? Have they figured that out yet?



That wasn't the point and you know it. You seem to claim they are evil. Promtoing those ideas are not evil. Stay on topic.


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Ok

I dont have 6 bankruptcies on my record. I have 8 years in the military, 4 deployments, compared to the guy who dodged the draft.

I’ve been married 12 years to one woman (score one for the family values crowd), don’t golf, don’t tweet, and am smart enough to surround myself with people smarter than me, not loyalist yes men.


I bet that your net worth is also more than any money given to you. As opposed to Trump whose net worth would be higher if he'd simply taken his inheritance and let Edward Jones invest it for him.


and thats a big on for me when it comes to businessmen.

if you're not a self made man, but instead a 1% kid with a 200 million dollar inheritance, then the only way you qualify based on money is if you made more than what you wouldve if you just sat it in the stock market for the last 30-40 years.

which he didnt.


Too bad this is the frontrunner for YOUR party

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I wonder if lying every time you open your mouth is actually better?


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As long as we can keep the Left from ruining things, AMERICA will be GREAT. America is great because of the great principles of the founding fathers. Keep those principles, and America will always be great.


Yeah, quality healthcare for all and better education for everyone is so evil. That might ruin us all!



At what cost? Have they figured that out yet?



That wasn't the point and you know it. You seem to claim they are evil. Promtoing those ideas are not evil. Stay on topic.


I guess you think those are the only two policies on the Democratic platform, LOL

Another strawman. You do realize that logical fallacies like strawmen are basically lies dressed up like an argument.

I said clearly that I did not think the entire Democratic platform was evil, only parts of it. Stay on topic

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I suppose cutting money to education, food stamps, social security and medicare are better?

You seem to forget about some Republican policies as well.


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As long as we can keep the Left from ruining things, AMERICA will be GREAT. America is great because of the great principles of the founding fathers. Keep those principles, and America will always be great.


Yeah, quality healthcare for all and better education for everyone is so evil. That might ruin us all!



At what cost? Have they figured that out yet?



That wasn't the point and you know it. You seem to claim they are evil. Promtoing those ideas are not evil. Stay on topic.


I guess you think those are the only two policies on the Democratic platform, LOL

Another strawman.


I wasn't planning to engage in a one sided debate any more but an observation - [1] YOU keep re-framing the discussion and inventing new angles [2] then when someone offers a good talking point or winning counterpoint - you keep talking about Strawman arguments.... that's poppycock.

No-one said that healthcare was the only platform. There is no Strawman argument here.


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As long as we can keep the Left from ruining things, AMERICA will be GREAT. America is great because of the great principles of the founding fathers. Keep those principles, and America will always be great.


Yeah, quality healthcare for all and better education for everyone is so evil. That might ruin us all!



At what cost? Have they figured that out yet?



That wasn't the point and you know it. You seem to claim they are evil. Promtoing those ideas are not evil. Stay on topic.


I guess you think those are the only two policies on the Democratic platform, LOL

Another strawman.


I wasn't planning to engage in a one sided debate any more but an observation - [1] YOU keep re-framing the discussion and inventing new angles [2] then when someone offers a good talking point or winning counterpoint - you keep talking about Strawman arguments.... that's poppycock.

No-one said that healthcare was the only platform. There is no Strawman argument here.


Since your so lost, let me simplify it for you

A. Pit. Yeah, healthcare for all and better education are so bad

B. Me. At what cost

C. You know that’s not the point. You seem to claim they are evil

Now show me where I said healthcare for all and better education are evil.

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I suppose cutting money to education, food stamps, social security and medicare are better?

You seem to forget about some Republican policies as well.


No there are many things on both sides I disagree with. I am weighing the good and bad of both sides. And if it ends up Trump vs Sanders, Trump gets m vote. If you want to discuss other Dem candidates, we can do so. I have things to do, so I’m going to have to quit soon thoughts

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As long as we can keep the Left from ruining things, AMERICA will be GREAT. America is great because of the great principles of the founding fathers. Keep those principles, and America will always be great.


Yeah, quality healthcare for all and better education for everyone is so evil. That might ruin us all!



At what cost? Have they figured that out yet?



That wasn't the point and you know it. You seem to claim they are evil. Promtoing those ideas are not evil. Stay on topic.


For mine and MGH’s benefit...what is the thread and the post number where I said healthcare for all and better education are evil. Thanks.

Feel free to share if you find it as well, MGH888

If you can’t, then his statement that I said healthcare for all and better education are evil is a straw man

Thank you

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They wont answer the last post before this one, watch. I know how they operate. Make an accusation and then when you ask them where you said that, they run away from the question.


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As long as we can keep the Left from ruining things, AMERICA will be GREAT. America is great because of the great principles of the founding fathers. Keep those principles, and America will always be great.


Yeah, quality healthcare for all and better education for everyone is so evil. That might ruin us all!



At what cost? Have they figured that out yet?



That wasn't the point and you know it. You seem to claim they are evil. Promtoing those ideas are not evil. Stay on topic.


I guess you think those are the only two policies on the Democratic platform, LOL

Another strawman.


I wasn't planning to engage in a one sided debate any more but an observation - [1] YOU keep re-framing the discussion and inventing new angles [2] then when someone offers a good talking point or winning counterpoint - you keep talking about Strawman arguments.... that's poppycock.

No-one said that healthcare was the only platform. There is no Strawman argument here.


Read the quotes. He claimed I seemed to say healthcare for all and better education are evil. Never said it. You won’t find it anywhere. Nope.

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Let me know when you or Pit find where I said those two things are evil. Thanks.

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Here - let me spell it out for you.

1. No-one claimed healthcare was the ONLY platform the Dems run on. You insinuated it was what someone said and then cried "Strawman" .... but the ONLY person doing that is YOU because YOU constantly try to change the narrative to twist the discussion.

2. When whoever it was said Healthcare and Education are evil HE WAS BEING SARCASTIC.

Buhhhh-Bye

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dagesh take it for what it is.


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It's quite simple and a very easy answer. You yourself have agreed with the evils on both sides. Yet you claim one side as evil without acknowledging that both sides are evil. Once you admit that both sides are evil you will be making a point.

Until then you are being bias and don't really wish to admit that neither actually have the upper ground.


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
It's quite simple and a very easy answer. You yourself have agreed with the evils on both sides. Yet you claim one side as evil without acknowledging that both sides are evil. Once tou admit that both sides are evil you will be making a point.

Until then you are being bias and don't really wish to admit that neither actually have the upper ground.


Again, where did I say that healthcare for all and better education are evil

And go back and read the post you are referring to. I never said one side is evil. I said to support one side is to support evil. And yes, both sides have evil policies. But one sides policies are worse than the others, IMO

USA had evil policies in the 40s. So did the Nazis. So did the Commies. But sometimes you choose lesser evil. Like amputating a foot to stop the spread of gangrene.

I do not care for Dems or Republicans. So I can only choose one or stay out. When I suggested the latter, I was basically called out for it

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You brought up religion, Portland. Shame on you tsktsk

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Here - let me spell it out for you.

1. No-one claimed healthcare was the ONLY platform the Dems run on. You insinuated it was what someone said and then cried "Strawman" .... but the ONLY person doing that is YOU because YOU constantly try to change the narrative to twist the discussion.

2. When whoever it was said Healthcare and Education are evil HE WAS BEING SARCASTIC.



Buhhhh-Bye


The strawman was when he implied that I said healthcare for all and better education are evil. If you can show me where I said that, i would appreciate it.

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You brought up religion, Portland. Shame on you tsktsk


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You brought up religion, Portland. Shame on you tsktsk


Dear Lord, your followers have driven me from you.
Save me from them.


Why are you talking about religion? You objected to it earlier

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You brought up religion, Portland. Shame on you tsktsk


Dear Lord, your followers have driven me from you.
Save me from them.

Amen brother.


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He said I seemed to say they were evil. Was he claiming I was being sarcastic? MGH is not making sense

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So will you openly admit that both the Republican and Democratic parties are evil?

I highly doubt it. What you said is a vote for Democrats is a vote for evil. Is it the same for both parties or not?

Try to stay focused this time.


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You brought up religion, Portland. Shame on you tsktsk


Dear Lord, your followers have driven me from you.
Save me from them.

Amen brother.


When did I say healthcare for all and better education were evil? If you tell me, I’ll put “vote for Bernie”in my sig. thanks.

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Dodge ball 101.


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I highly doubt it. What you said is a vote for Democrats is a vote for evil. ..


Nope. Didnt say that. Try to quote me correctly.

You are very imprecise in your quotations

Now as to your question...Suppose I had to choose between dying of gangrene or having my leg cut off. Would the consequences be equal?

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As long as we can keep the Left from ruining things, AMERICA will be GREAT. America is great because of the great principles of the founding fathers. Keep those principles, and America will always be great.


Yeah, quality healthcare for all and better education for everyone is so evil. That might ruin us all!


Anyone here think that this post says either of these two things please let me know:

1. Is this post saying quality healthcare and education are evil?

2. Does this post (or any subsequent post) say that Dag thinks that quality healthcare or education are evil?

The answer is NO. But like all things Dag, he's got a little confused. Hope this helps straighten out the complete and utter total lack of comprehension.


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Dodge ball 101.


Yep, you’re dodging the fact that you can’t tell me when I said healthcare for all and better education are evil. You even have another dodger helping you dodge, but he’s just being silly

Gotta go. When you find the post where I said Healthcarefor all and better education are evil, just give me the post number.

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As long as we can keep the Left from ruining things, AMERICA will be GREAT. America is great because of the great principles of the founding fathers. Keep those principles, and America will always be great.


Yeah, quality healthcare for all and better education for everyone is so evil. That might ruin us all!


Anyone here think that this post says either of these two things please let me know:

1. Is this post saying quality healthcare and education are evil?

2. Does this post (or any subsequent post) say that Dag thinks that quality healthcare or education are evil?

The answer is NO. But like all things Dag, he's got a little confused. Hope this helps straighten out the complete and utter total lack of comprehension.


Don’t stop at that post. Read the the next three responses in our exchange.

Ever heard of context, MGH? You

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As long as we can keep the Left from ruining things, AMERICA will be GREAT. America is great because of the great principles of the founding fathers. Keep those principles, and America will always be great.


Yeah, quality healthcare for all and better education for everyone is so evil. That might ruin us all!



At what cost? Have they figured that out yet?




That wasn't the point and you know it. You seem to claim they are evil. Promtoing those ideas are not evil. Stay on topic.


How about this one instead, Included with full context


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If you choose to read "they" as healthcare and education ... then Pit is saying you are saying they are evil.

If you choose to read "they" as the Democrats - which is entirely how I read it - then Pit is saying 'you seem to be saying the Dems are evil' .....

Pit is taking your previous claim about the Democrats a little out of context. As you squirmed around the other day and tried to walk that line back .... what you said was a vote for the Dems was a vote for Evil. Semantics to argue that voting for them is a vote for evil and that you ddn't say the Democratic Party/Platform is evil.


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The context is that you refuse to admit both parties are evil while claiming one of them is.

Carry on.

i thought you had to leave because you had something you needed to do? I guess that was BS too.


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Originally Posted By: mgh888
If you choose to read "they" as healthcare and education ... then Pit is saying you are saying they are evil.

If you choose to read "they" as the Democrats - which is entirely how I read it - then Pit is saying 'you seem to be saying the Dems are evil' .....

Pit is taking your previous claim about the Democrats a little out of context. As you squirmed around the other day and tried to walk that line back .... what you said was a vote for the Dems was a vote for Evil. Semantics to argue that voting for them is a vote for evil and that you ddn't say the Democratic Party/Platform is evil.



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Do you know how to read CONTEXT

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The context is that you refuse to admit both parties are evil while claiming one of them is.

Carry on.

i thought you had to leave because you had something you needed to do? I guess that was BS too.


Could you imagine how exhausting it would be to know this guy in person?


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As long as we can keep the Left from ruining things, AMERICA will be GREAT. America is great because of the great principles of the founding fathers. Keep those principles, and America will always be great.


Yeah, quality healthcare for all and better education for everyone is so evil. That might ruin us all!



At what cost? Have they figured that out yet?



That wasn't the point and you know it. You seem to claim they are evil. Promoting those ideas are not evil. Stay on topic.




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He has to be different in person. I mean you have to be able to function in society on some level.


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If you choose to read "they" as healthcare and education ... then Pit is saying you are saying they are evil.

If you choose to read "they" as the Democrats - which is entirely how I read it - then Pit is saying 'you seem to be saying the Dems are evil' .....

Pit is taking your previous claim about the Democrats a little out of context. As you squirmed around the other day and tried to walk that line back .... what you said was a vote for the Dems was a vote for Evil. Semantics to argue that voting for them is a vote for evil and that you ddn't say the Democratic Party/Platform is evil.



Read all the posts!!!

Do you know how to read CONTEXT


I do - clearly you don't.


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