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On coaches? No.
OL play? I would hope so. I remember him saying Shon Coleman was the best right tackle in the league. He also said Greg Robinson "could" be a Pro Bowl left tackle. I'm not saying, I'm just saying.
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Joe's comments of course will be noted.
Becton will most likely be gone. I like Thomas he plays with attitude and is good in the run game as well as pass protection.
Joe knows best.
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I heard on the radio that Wirfs is a Right Tackle - is that correct? Actually, so is Jedrick Wills, but he was protecting a left-handed QB's blind side. How hard is the switch to the left side for a right tackle - I don't want a project at LT, especially at #10.
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Pumping up his teammates?
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Pumping up his teammates? Probably with Coleman. The Robinson comment was in the 2019 off-season.
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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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j/c... Joe Thomas was on Cleveland Browns Daily today and discussed the OT prospects. He sees Wirfs as a guy who will likely start out as a guard in the NFL before transitioning to tackle. Cites lack of hip mobility (he explains in detail based on combine numbers on the audio link). Likes Becton the best, Andrew Thomas next, Wills Jr. third, Wirfs 4th. Says Wirfs might go first of the OL in any other typical draft class. Here's the audio, begins at the 1hr and 1 minute mark. https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/audio/cleveland-browns-daily-3-4-2020 Are we sure we should trust anything Joe Thomas says? I trust Joe Thomas more when he comments on O-Lineman. When Corbett was drafted, he came out and said, "I can say confidently, Austin Corbett is not a tackle in the NFL, he's a guard." He didn't say Wirfs can't play OT, just he believes he'll start his career out as a guard.
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I heard on the radio that Wirfs is a Right Tackle - is that correct? Actually, so is Jedrick Wills, but he was protecting a left-handed QB's blind side. How hard is the switch to the left side for a right tackle - I don't want a project at LT, especially at #10. I think it depends on the individual. Some people are just "ambidextrous." It's also a bit like Van Pelt changing Baker's footwork. It'll probably be some new techniques to get used to no matter which side they end up on just going from college to pros and a new system, but with reps and focus should be able to get used to it. (This is assuming they have the requisite athletecism to stay at OT on either side) Still Trent Williams at LT and Wills at RT is sounding pretty good to me. Assuming they don't go for higher picks of course.
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Good news. It appears like at least 2 of them should be there for us too
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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We are getting neither. Probably not even getting Wills.
Looks like Thomas.
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I heard on the radio that Wirfs is a Right Tackle - is that correct? Actually, so is Jedrick Wills, but he was protecting a left-handed QB's blind side. How hard is the switch to the left side for a right tackle - I don't want a project at LT, especially at #10. I just heard Daniel Jeremiah on 92.3 The Fan saying that watching Wirfs' workout at the Combine convinced him that Wirfs has "Left Tackle feet" and that he could successfully move to LT.
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Watch out for the talking heads making projections about position changes. Taking a pick at #10 you are counting on changing positions doesn't seem like a good investment.
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I heard on the radio that Wirfs is a Right Tackle - is that correct? Actually, so is Jedrick Wills, but he was protecting a left-handed QB's blind side. How hard is the switch to the left side for a right tackle - I don't want a project at LT, especially at #10. I just heard Daniel Jeremiah on 92.3 The Fan saying that watching Wirfs' workout at the Combine convinced him that Wirfs has "Left Tackle feet" and that he could successfully move to LT. Wirfs did play some LT last year. He played 161 snaps at the LT position. He played 693 snaps at RT for comparison.
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Yeah, he filled in on a temporary basis due to injury.
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Yeah, he filled in on a temporary basis due to injury. So, who is the guy he couldn't beat for LT?
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A guy I work with calls that "the stranger". Great exchange of posts!!
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Anyway......Mekhi Becton caught my eye at the Combine. I haven't been following the draft very closely.
Any thoughts on him?
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Alaric Jackson. He was injured early in the season in the game against Miami of Ohio.
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Anyway......Mekhi Becton caught my eye at the Combine. I haven't been following the draft very closely.
Any thoughts on him?
My only concern is his weight at 350 lbs. The guy is what, 22-23? What is he going to be like when a millionaire and enters middle age spread at age 27?
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That's my concern with him as well.
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That's the guy we gotta get! I don't know about all that but it is a cautionary tale of why you can't project a RT transitioning to LT at the next level.
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I would take Wills. He was the number one at one point. But he is a solid player and has performed very good. Plug and play guy.
I like Becton's size though, and he can move even though he is that big.
I don't think you can miss with any of them, but Wirfs would be an awesome guard.
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I am not saying to not draft these guys, but there is no such thing as a "safe" OL draft choice anymore. The college game make it really hard to evaluate how they will transition to the NFL. The OL has become very similar to the QB position in that regard.
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I think there are 4 really good tackles in this draft worthy of the #10 spot in the draft. Before the combine I think their ranking was 1) Andrew Thomas, 2) Jedrick Wills, 3) Trsiton Wirfs, 4) Mecki Becton. After the combine it seems the ranking has now changed to 1) Mecki Becton, 2) Triston Wirfs, 3) Jedrick Wills, 4) Andrew Thomas.
I thing Thomas seems to be the purest Left Tackle of the group. He has great film, and was a steady producer at that position. Just did not WOW anyone at the combine. Mecki Becton played left tackle in college and was starting to climb in the rankings before the combine and then showed he is a tremndous athlete at 365 pounds. Wills and Wirfs probably are the two best tackles in the draft but both played right tackle in college.
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I am not saying to not draft these guys, but there is no such thing as a "safe" OL draft choice anymore. The college game make it really hard to evaluate how they will transition to the NFL. The OL has become very similar to the QB position in that regard. That's one reason why I prefer Wirfs. He comes out of a "pro style" offense that runs a wide zone scheme. (It's also why I preferred Josh Rosen. I am always right.)
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Good point guys ... the OL has changed in college and it has made it tougher to predict how player will transfer/progress.
I didn’t realize that’s bout Becton, so it makes him move up in my mind
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To me he is a top 10 pick. All the others are a reach at 10 IMO.
I rather stick to the board and grab a tackle or guard in round 2.
It's not like we don't have 4-5 positions of need
On O we need a tackle and guard. Even say 2 tackles and a guard.
On D we need 2lbs, a Dt, a DE, and a safety. The D needs more of a upgrade over the O. Heck, maybe 2 DT's. Larry has gone down hill since a promising rookie season. He is light in the hips. He is fairly easy to push around in the run game.
There is a reason why teams run up the middle on us and get 5 yard gash plays and we are in 2nd and 4-5 a lot. It's hard to force a 3 and out in that position.
We need to go heavy on a OT and guard in FA, then go heavy on D in the draft.
JMO, rookie defenders have a easier transition to the NFL. Just read, react, and get to the football. If you're missing a position on D, the rest of the squad should at least still survive. If you're missing OL, you risk breaking your biggest investment. Well, we had more QB's injured when we had all the superstars in the OL...
You need 5 solid OL which would include a superstar LT cause of the skill set needed to be considered SOLID!
Does a team ever have 5 solid...yes, usually those going to the Conference championships. Doesn't mean they have to have the BEST at each position...just SOLID and work well together. Center is very important in that. Right now we are solid at 2 of the 5 positions. LG and C...The other 3 still have to be established...I see possibly 2 within the draft.
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I'm starting to think I'm the only one who doesn't like Becton.
His technique is a train wreck. He locks on to one player and gets beat religiously by stunts. His pass sets are just plan ugly.
I do like that everyone is comparing him to Bryant McKinnie, though. He definitely sets his back foot way too far back in pure pass pro.
From Wikipedia:
"After a 2009 loss against the Arizona Cardinals, it was reported by Tony Boselli on the Dan Patrick show that McKinnie accidentally tipped off the Vikings offensive game plan to the Cardinals. He said that the Cardinals knew when the Vikings were going to pass because of his leg. "He would have one of his legs back a little bit further" when getting in stance before the play.[3]"
But...that's just my opinion...
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Can you explain what you don’t like about his technique specifically? Just curious b/c I’m clueless
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His hand placement is almost always high and outside the framework of the defender.
He does not come off the guy he has decided to block before the snap. Oftentimes taking himself out of the play and, as mentioned, falling for stunts religiously.
He cheats his back foot in his pass sets noticeably giving away his exceedingly few pro sets.
In short, his technique and awareness.
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His hand placement is almost always high and outside the framework of the defender.
He does not come off the guy he has decided to block before the snap. Oftentimes taking himself out of the play and, as mentioned, falling for stunts religiously.
He cheats his back foot in his pass sets noticeably giving away his exceedingly few pro sets.
In short, his technique and awareness.
Not a big fan of Becton either, not saying he isn't able to learn the things you say he struggles with, especially with Callahan being his OL Coach. Still I would be Leary taking him at #10 because we need a first day starter at LT and he may take longer to develop than the others ...
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His hand placement is almost always high and outside the framework of the defender.
He does not come off the guy he has decided to block before the snap. Oftentimes taking himself out of the play and, as mentioned, falling for stunts religiously.
He cheats his back foot in his pass sets noticeably giving away his exceedingly few pro sets.
In short, his technique and awareness.
Not a big fan of Becton either, not saying he isn't able to learn the things you say he struggles with, especially with Callahan being his OL Coach. Still I would be Leary taking him at #10 because we need a first day starter at LT and he may take longer to develop than the others ... All of this has been part of my concerns with him all along. I've asked what he looked like during his season because the only thing people focus on is his hype video where he pancakes guys, but never got anything substantial.... thus me always comparing him to "Big Cakes". I mean... Why was he not viewed as a top-tier tackle DURING the season? Instead, one video gets leaked and now he's suddenly jumped into the Top 10? Please. All things considered, the guy is most likely just an athletic project who has gotten by this long simply by virtue of athleticism, strength, and size versus his competition and completely lacks all fundamentals to actually play the position well at the highest level.
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