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In the past unlike baseball football was not conducive to trades.
Contracts were complicated. Difficult to gauge how to actually make trades work. Trades in the end have to make sense for both teams.
Looking back at the deals Dorsey pulled off. Not normal in football. We moved Kaiser. The Odell deal. The Vernon deal. That doesn't happened all to often.
So what can we expect from Berry? He has made it clear that the team plans to be aggressive in every possible way to acquire talent and upgrade the team.
Rumors of course are floating about Odell. And honestly I think that is all that will happen rumors alone.
That leaves the rest of the team. Who would the Browns consider trading on the team?
And who would they want to target?
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If anything, it seems possible he'll trade a top performer whenever possible for a couple of middle of the road players or mid to late-round draft picks in order to return the roster to sub-par mediocrity in alignment with the analytical approach that more is more. 
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Hunt is about the only player I see that we might trade. Maybe we could get a decent guard out of the deal. That would leave us looking for a RB in the draft. I don't know that Hilliard fills the back-up role all that well. I would keep Hunt at this point. Maybe trade him at the trading deadline.
I think if we see us draft a back before round 5, it's a pretty good chance we deal Hunt in October.
I don't think I would look to trade players. Maybe picks for players or picks for picks.
As for the draft, we could trade down out of 10 and it might make sense if it isn't too far and we are sure we can get a player we like. In other words, if we drop 4 slots, there needs to be 5 players we like.
I think I would rather just stick this year, but would not go nuts if we do drop a few slots. It's a pretty deep draft for Oline. If we drop, we might not get the guy you want, or the guy I want, but that doesn't mean we won't get a good player.
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If anything, it seems possible he'll trade a top performer whenever possible for a couple of middle of the road players or mid to late-round draft picks in order to return the roster to sub-par mediocrity in alignment with the analytical approach that more is more. I doubt it.
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OBJ for Diggs and a pick? Just spitballing haha
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In his introductory press conference Andrew mentioned Sashi Brown and Howie Roseman as two of his biggest influences. Sashi Brown made a bunch of trades. He swapped seventh round picks and got Jamar Taylor from the Dolphins. He traded Barkevious Mingo to the Patriots for a fifth round pick. He traded a seventh round pick and Andy Lee for a fourth round pick. He traded Justin Gilbert to the Steelers for a seventh round pick. He traded a third round pick for Jamie Collins. He traded a fourth round pick for Brock Osweiler's contract and a second round pick. He traded Demario Davis for Calvin Pryor. He traded sixth round pick for Sammie Coates and a seventh round pick. That's a lot of trades over a less than two year period (not to mention all the trades in the draft he made but I don't think that's what you are talking about). I'd expect we'll be aggressive on the trade market. The huge inefficiency I see on the trade market is pick swaps. Teams will trade veteran players just to move up a little bit in the draft. The Patriots have been taking advantage of this for years (it's how they got Danny Shelton from us). Dropping down only a few dozen picks in the draft can net a team a veteran contributor while not costing much draft capital. Pick swaps are also a great way to dump contracts you don't want. Also, hopefully Andrew Berry picked up the trade bug from Howie Roseman in Philadelphia. Since Roseman took over full control of the team (after Chip Kelly was fired in 2016) the Eagles have probably traded more than any other team. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/transactions/2016/philadelphia-eagles/trade/https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/transactions/2017/philadelphia-eagles/trade/https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/transactions/2018/philadelphia-eagles/trade/https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/transactions/2019/philadelphia-eagles/trade/Several of Roseman's trades were big time moves too. Swapping first round picks with players involved, trading Sam Bradford, trading for Michael Bennett, trading for DeSean Jackson, etc. Trading in the NFL can bring back great value (getting Landry for a fourth and seventh round pick for example) while only costing you rookie production.
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Who do we have that we could afford to move and that someone else would want? QB, RB, WR, TE I'd say no one there. No way I'd trade Hunt right now. We'd have nothing behind Chubb. I'd rather OBJ be the guy he can be than trade him - but I'd understand the trade. OL Uh...no...just...no. We have two guys and we need five. DL Vernon? We'd have to eat that contract and I'd just as soon keep him. Is there a guy who is in the wrong "scheme"? Is there a guy other than MG that anyone would want? Moving Richardson would just create another hole. LB DB Mitchell? I wouldn't trade him. Maybe "they" think Redwine/Thomas/Lewis Jr can play a bit? So maybe OBJ or Mitchell as guys others would want...and we MIGHT trade...but are guys I'd rather keep. Berry has his work cut out for him. He's got some really good players to work with...but there is a lot of improvement that needs made.
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Yeah Sashi made a bunch of trades.and not one trade made the team any better. He traded trash for trash
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Not a big fan of trading a QBs salary for Nick Chubb, eh?
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Not a big fan of trading a QBs salary for Nick Chubb, eh?
 ... I’m sure Sashi would have taken Chubb at 35 ... biggest NO-BRAINER ever ...  Love how he compounded the Collins trade by giving him that huge contract ... SWEEEEEETTTT ... 
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Not a big fan of trading a QBs salary for Nick Chubb, eh?
 ... I’m sure Sashi would have taken Chubb at 35 ... biggest NO-BRAINER ever ...  Love how he compounded the Collins trade by giving him that huge contract ... SWEEEEEETTTT ... Yeah Sashi made a bunch of trades.and not one trade made the team any better. He traded trash for trash
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Not a big fan of trading a QBs salary for Nick Chubb, eh?
 ... I’m sure Sashi would have taken Chubb at 35 ... biggest NO-BRAINER ever ...  Love how he compounded the Collins trade by giving him that huge contract ... SWEEEEEETTTT ... Yeah Sashi made a bunch of trades.and not one trade made the team any better. He traded trash for trash Yeah, I'm with FATE on this one. While I get Diam's point about Sashi's picks.... if we can't agree that the move to bring in Osweiler to net draft capital was absolute genius, then I don't think we'll have any decent debate. Give credit where credit is due, and all.
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Berry will be open for business.
All that means is he would listen to any offer.
I like Hunt the player. I don't trust the person at all. This last episode made it clear he is a person susceptible to making poor decisions.
I would listen if the right deal was there; I would pull the trigger and draft a back in the third round.
Vernon was hurt. My opinion on injury is can happen to any player anytime. So, we traded for him because we needed his skills. We still do. So I would listen but have no problem keeping him. Because we would still need a DE.
Ojunjobi? I expected more from him. Didn't see it.
So he might be a guy in a package with other players maybe for a higher draft pick in round two.
I believe the Browns will be looking for more production at DT. Free agency or trade makes sense because it is hard to get quality at DT later than the third round.
Letting Schobert walk is a questionable move. He was a fourth round steal. Performed way better than a fourth rounder. He played way above his pay grade. So signing him now is like paying him some for past performance as well as future.
I am good with that because it sends the right message to the team. It is one thing to replace a position with a player. It is a lot harder to replace a position with a team leader like Schobert.
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It's always wise to be open to listening to any and all offers.
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Comprehension is a wonderful thing ... where did i say trading cap space for a 2nd rnd pick wasn’t worth it ... i started a THANK U Sashi thread a few days after his release and that was well before KJ turned some os his trash to gold .... Fate in THE POST I REPLIED TO FROM HIM said the trade was made for Chubb ... FALSE .... WRONG .... that was what i replied too ... his misleading crap ... nice to know your in favor of misleading/deceiving posts ... 
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That's not how I read his post at all. Calm down.
Sashi's trades were some of the few bright spots of his time here. I also didn't trust his eye for talent to use those picks appropriately.
But the topic is about trades, not cashing in on them. Sashi's trade for BO was super creative and smart.
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Comprehension is a wonderful thing ... where did i say trading cap space for a 2nd rnd pick wasn’t worth it ... i started a THANK U Sashi thread a few days after his release and that was well before KJ turned some os his trash to gold .... Fate in THE POST I REPLIED TO FROM HIM said the trade was made for Chubb ... FALSE .... WRONG .... that was what i replied too ... his misleading crap ... nice to know your in favor of misleading/deceiving posts ... Oh boy. Here let me clarify. For those that have been in a cave for a few years, in 2017 Sashi Brown, defacto GM for the Browns, engineered what many call one of the most genius trades in recent NFL history... essentially buying a 2nd round draft pick. The Browns traded a 4th round pick for Brock Osweiler and a 2nd round pick... that pick was later used to draft Nick Chubb. Cool? Check with your clan and make sure that's kosher... wouldn't want any misleading quotes here, such as: Yeah Sashi made a bunch of trades.and not one trade made the team any better. He traded trash for trash
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On the flip side the Broncos could be a surprise team in 2020.
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I like Buoye, but I dont know his contract status either
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If anything, it seems possible he'll trade a top performer whenever possible for a couple of middle of the road players or mid to late-round draft picks in order to return the roster to sub-par mediocrity in alignment with the analytical approach that more is more. I doubt it. So you’re saying it’s possible. 
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How about we wait and see. Not really fair to trash a guy who has not even made a move yet.
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Jaguars regretting that Foles deal so much right now.
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LinkIt started with a whisper … When ESPN Eagles beat writer Tim McManus said on a Philadelphia radio show that the team could be interested in trading its first-round pick in the 2019 draft, offensive tackle Andre Dillard, the whispers quickly grew quite loud in Cleveland. Why? Browns general manager Andrew Berry was with the Eagles in 2019 and part of the personnel evaluation group that selected Dillard. Berry wasn’t the GM, but as the VP of football operations, he was intimately involved in the scouting and decision-making process. Then there’s the fit with the Browns. Dillard is a schematic match for what the Browns figure to run under coach Kevin Stefanski, a scheme that requires mobility and technique more than brawn. He showed some ability in limited duty as a rookie, starting four games for a playoff-bound Eagles team. The Eagles appear intent on bringing back fixture Jason Peters at left tackle, and the reports indicate they are interested in using Dillard as a sweetener to entice another team to take overpaid wide receiver Alshon Jeffery off their hands. The Browns would have a use for Jeffery too, so on that front a deal would make even more sense. If true I hope the Browns look into this deal. I could live with giving up one of the 3s we have and a pick next year for Dillard with Alshon Jeffery thrown in the deal.
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Berry has been brought back to reign in the salary cap and "tank" again. No offense what has Andrew Berry proven that he knows football?
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This will be as big of a disaster, maybe not 1-31 disaster, but it always gets worse with Hee Haw Haslam
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Berry will only be able to pull off trade downs on Draft Days because he has no contacts in the NFL to pull a trade off. It will take the other team initiating the trade so they can fleece the Browns
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The Landry trade was a steal. The Tyrod Taylor trade was a disaster, the trade downs by Sashi to take Gary Coleman (yes I know I called him Gary), the trade down bypassing Watson for Peppers was a disaster. Most of the Browns trades dont work out in their favor
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Schobert was not a steal. Schobert is a backup LB on a good team. He only starts on the Browns
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LinkIt started with a whisper … When ESPN Eagles beat writer Tim McManus said on a Philadelphia radio show that the team could be interested in trading its first-round pick in the 2019 draft, offensive tackle Andre Dillard, the whispers quickly grew quite loud in Cleveland. Why? Browns general manager Andrew Berry was with the Eagles in 2019 and part of the personnel evaluation group that selected Dillard. Berry wasn’t the GM, but as the VP of football operations, he was intimately involved in the scouting and decision-making process. Then there’s the fit with the Browns. Dillard is a schematic match for what the Browns figure to run under coach Kevin Stefanski, a scheme that requires mobility and technique more than brawn. He showed some ability in limited duty as a rookie, starting four games for a playoff-bound Eagles team. The Eagles appear intent on bringing back fixture Jason Peters at left tackle, and the reports indicate they are interested in using Dillard as a sweetener to entice another team to take overpaid wide receiver Alshon Jeffery off their hands. The Browns would have a use for Jeffery too, so on that front a deal would make even more sense. If true I hope the Browns look into this deal. I could live with giving up one of the 3s we have and a pick next year for Dillard with Alshon Jeffery thrown in the deal. Doubt it happens unless it's like the Osweiler deal and we end up cutting Alshon to accelerate the cap hit. We'd have too much money tied up in receivers. Would limit our options in FA, but we would need one less OT. Not sure if Jimmy'd be willing to pay someone more than 20M not to play again or not.
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Schobert was not a steal. Schobert is a backup LB on a good team. He only starts on the Browns Some of your posts sound like you are trolling. I hope that isn't true.
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Schobert was not a steal. Schobert is a backup LB on a good team. He only starts on the Browns Some of your posts sound like you are trolling. I hope that isn't true. Of course he’s trolling. Just read his posts.
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Schobert was not a steal. Schobert is a backup LB on a good team. He only starts on the Browns Some of your posts sound like you are trolling. I hope that isn't true. Of course he’s trolling. Just read his posts. My thought as well.. reminds me of post # padding..
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